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Originally Posted by Bobman
I think we should stop protecting and looking for excuses if females do the wrong thing and something happens to them. It's like saying "oh she can be drunk but not expect anything to happen". That's not how it works anymore. Everyone should be responsible for their own actions.
This is just as stupid as putting blame on Car drivers when a pedestrian just jumps out on the road.
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Originally Posted by Bobman
However if she didn't flirt or kiss or accept alcohol, etc this may not have happened. This is far too common these days and people have to think ahead if something they do now will affect what happens in the near future. It's common sense.
I don't blame her for the actual "event" but I blame her for the "consequence" of her "actions" earlier.
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Originally Posted by Bobman
If women were more responsible with alcohol, they would not be vulnerable to such shortcomings in the parties that they attend. I am not at all talking about rapes that occur without any involvement from the female first. I am talking about girls who kiss, flirt, touch, tease and provoke a situation that should never happen at all.
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Bobman, I'd like to think that most of what you have written is being misinterpreted and that you are not just blaming the sleeping woman.
I take it that you are saying that what she has done is let her guard down and has been exploited for it.
Further, the reason she, if totally innocent, could still take 1% of the blame is that she should be more aware of the environment she lives in and, being a cop, should be aware that there are dirty raping bastards out there who will drug and take advantage of women.
I am assuming that the following is an example of where you are coming from: "Bobman wouldn't show a heap of people his safe, leave the door open and expect nothing to go missing."
If that's your approach then yeah, I can understand it. The biggest thing in this woman's defence though is that she removed herself from the situation by going to a girlfriends house to sleep in a safe place. Given that she was drunk and made her way there, there is little comeback for the guy when he went out of his way to find her and carry things on.
If he had gone home, like a good little boy, and not been led by his cheating little pecker, he would not be in the situation he is in now - regardless of her incitement or lack thereof.
If she was an equal player in the game, the courts will determine that for us.