Maccas Armed Robbers? Where Next?

[ThaFlash]

The manager of a McDonald's restaurant in Melbourne's southeast fears her outlet could be the next target for a gang of robbers who are holding up the fast food stores.

A third McDonald's restaurant, in Cranbourne, was robbed overnight by three men wielding weapons.

In the previous two brazen hold-ups in the area, only two men had carried out the robberies armed with an axe and a machete.

The manager of one store in the area, who wished to remain unidentified, fears her restaurant could be hit next.

"We're doing the best we can but we just hope they catch these guys," she said.

"We could be next tonight, being in the area, I wouldn't be surprised."

The restaurant, which usually stays open until midnight, will be closing much earlier on Wednesday while the bandits remain at large.

"It's scary, thank God until now nobody has been hurt, which is good," she said.

She said she worked for an owner/operator who is holding a staff meeting to discuss security issues.

Above quote was taken from... http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...maccas-manager


Just a little curious, where can these scrawny maggot parasites strike next?

They are too stupid too spread out, they have added a 3rd loser into the gang.

Surely, someone can predict their next move and possibly even figure out where they are based.

Any criminal profilers out there? What can we do to help?

My son works at Maccas in Sth. East Suburbse and I don't feel entirely comfortable about it either.

[glavas]

i really wish we were much tougher on crime. life sentence to everyone or even death for law breakers. would be a much nicer place to live.

[wrongwaynorris]

Originally Posted by glavas

i really wish we were much tougher on crime. life sentence to everyone or even death for law breakers. would be a much nicer place to live.

Hallelujah ,rep points coming your way M8

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by glavas

i really wish we were much tougher on crime. life sentence to everyone or even death for law breakers. would be a much nicer place to live.

yeah just like north korea. awesome place to live.

[glavas]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

yeah just like north korea. awesome place to live.

I think you will find there's a difference between a tuff on crime society and a regime That represses the rights of it's people.

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by glavas

I think you will find there's a difference between a tuff on crime society and a regime That represses the rights of it's people.

You realise he was responding to a comment about death penalties in a thread on robbing a maccas right?

Couple of problems with a death penalty.
Problem 1. You cant take it back when the system gets it wrong. There are innocent people in jail. Yes they all claim to be, but that does not alter the fact, some are innocent. Are you OK with executing the innocent? Or is a few acceptable?


Problem 2. If a person is willing to commit crimes, then what is to stop them killing any potential witnesses. What difference does it make to them if they kill everyone in the place, they can only be executed once. Remember, we're talking about meth heads and whatnot, not just some rambunctious teens.

Theres tough on crime, and then theres ignorant knee jerk reactions. Nth Korea wasnt that far off the mark.

[glavas]

Originally Posted by fmc351

You realise he was responding to a comment about death penalties in a thread on robbing a maccas right?

Couple of problems with a death penalty.
Problem 1. You cant take it back when the system gets it wrong. There are innocent people in jail. Yes they all claim to be, but that does not alter the fact, some are innocent. Are you OK with executing the innocent? Or is a few acceptable?


Problem 2. If a person is willing to commit crimes, then what is to stop them killing any potential witnesses. What difference does it make to them if they kill everyone in the place, they can only be executed once. Remember, we're talking about meth heads and whatnot, not just some rambunctious teens.


Theres tough on crime, and then theres ignorant knee jerk reactions. Nth Korea wasnt that far off the mark.

Yes you can get it wrong now and then but as long as god knows your innocent it's okay. You starting to sound like a born again.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by glavas

i really wish we were much tougher on crime. life sentence to everyone or even death for law breakers. would be a much nicer place to live.

There'd be nothing happening on Ford Forums because we'd all be dead for 3km/h over the limit, or for downloading music.

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

There'd be nothing happening on Ford Forums because we'd all be dead for 3km/h over the limit, or for downloading music.

I thought you were going to say it'd be dead because people wouldn't have news such as this to post threads about that just turn into a **** fight.

I think that'd be closer to the money haha.

[ST]

Originally Posted by glavas

i really wish we were much tougher on crime. life sentence to everyone or even death for law breakers. would be a much nicer place to live.

WTF?

Originally Posted by wrongwaynorris

Hallelujah ,rep points coming your way M8

WTF? x1,000,000
I hope for the sake of the world you guys never have anything to do with politics, law enforcement or anything of the sort.

On topic, these hamburglars don't seem too bright hitting stores so close together. They should be caught pretty quickly if they strike again.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by ST

On topic, these hamburglars don't seem too bright hitting stores so close together. They should be caught pretty quickly if they strike again.

Or it could escalate as they turn their attention to random targets...home invasions perhaps.

Whilst i wouldnt go as far as to suggest the death penalty, the judicial system in this country could do with a dose of cement powder.

We had a shocking incident in SA on new years eve where a tough guy king hit a teen and killed him...he had the nerve to apply for bail, to which the Judge, by phone mind you, has agreed to consider it...

Perhaps if the people handing down the sentences were a little firmer, we wouldnt be living in a society spiralling out of control.

(Just for the record...yes people got bashed in the 'ol days too)

[fmc351]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Or it could escalate as they turn their attention to random targets...home invasions perhaps.

Whilst i wouldnt go as far as to suggest the death penalty, the judicial system in this country could do with a dose of cement powder.

We had a shocking incident in SA on new years eve where a tough guy king hit a teen and killed him...he had the nerve to apply for bail, to which the Judge, by phone mind you, has agreed to consider it...

Perhaps if the people handing down the sentences were a little firmer, we wouldnt be living in a society spiralling out of control.

(Just for the record...yes people got bashed in the 'ol days too)

You reckon a judge can hand down any sentence they like? They cant. If they hand down a tough sentence for a first offence, it will be reduced on appeal.

Judges work within guidelines, at least part of which is defined in economic terms. Until youre prepared to pay an additional rate of tax, and have a prison built in your neighbourhood, youre part of those economic reasons. Do you want, lets say, kiddie fiddlers housed next door to you? These are just two of the numerous problems even governments who want to get tough on crime face. Any area earmarked for the prison, becomes very vocal about their own families safety and property values and lifestyles, and who can blame them. And the prospect of additional taxation to cover it brings out words like 'money grubbers'.

One of many reason the judge considers bail, is because the man at this point is considered innocent. You do understand the meaning of the phrase, "Assumed innocent until proven guilty"? Proven, in court, the case yet to be heard, hasnt happened yet so he is still considered innocent. Or would you prefer to assume all accused are guilty and let them prove their innocence? Because if you prefer guilty until proven innocent, you dont understand what the country stands for, what the flag represents, or what diggers fought and died to protect. I can tell you, innocent until proven guilty is part of that. Thats part of the freedom and liberty mentioned in such debates. The rule of law which is a cornerstone of our system of governance.


To quote an American legend, 'they who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety'.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by fmc351

You reckon a judge can hand down any sentence they like? They cant. If they hand down a tough sentence for a first offence, it will be reduced on appeal.

Judges work within guidelines, at least part of which is defined in economic terms. Until youre prepared to pay an additional rate of tax, and have a prison built in your neighbourhood, youre part of those economic reasons. Do you want, lets say, kiddie fiddlers housed next door to you? These are just two of the numerous problems even governments who want to get tough on crime face. Any area earmarked for the prison, becomes very vocal about their own families safety and property values and lifestyles, and who can blame them. And the prospect of additional taxation to cover it brings out words like 'money grubbers'.

One of many reason the judge considers bail, is because the man at this point is considered innocent. You do understand the meaning of the phrase, "Assumed innocent until proven guilty"? Proven, in court, the case yet to be heard, hasnt happened yet so he is still considered innocent. Or would you prefer to assume all accused are guilty and let them prove their innocence? Because if you prefer guilty until proven innocent, you dont understand what the country stands for, what the flag represents, or what diggers fought and died to protect. I can tell you, innocent until proven guilty is part of that. Thats part of the freedom and liberty mentioned in such debates. The rule of law which is a cornerstone of our system of governance.


To quote an American legend, 'they who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety'.

You mean like the people who built/bought into the estate in the valley right next to SA's Yatala Prison 10yrs ago?
Didnt seem to worry them.

So tell me, if some .... killed someone in a cowardly attack and was free to live next door to you until whatever time the judicial system choses to try their case you'd be happy about it.
We have a full remand centre here in Adelaide, can we send a few to your street...they're innocent until found guilty too, just ask them.

[wrongwaynorris]

[QUOTE=ST]WTF?


WTF? x1,000,000
I hope for the sake of the world you guys never have anything to do with politics, law enforcement or anything of the sort.

No much better to just turn the streets over to the crims and toss the towel in at the expense of the 99.9% of law abiding contibutors to society .

[XR6_661]

The 24 hour maccas here only serve by means of the drive thru during late hours...Smart move.

[redxm]

What sort of society have we become. Kids being terrorised at there first job. Thats a very traumatic thing to go through for anyone, let alone a 16 yr old (as most maccas staff are)
bring back public stoning

[Airmon]

One Local Maccas around here wont let you in after a certain time, and while Drivethrough is 24hours, it has about 4" of perspex covering the drive through pick-up window and a tray that they use to slide out food and money in. Aswell as several cameras right on it so no one can so much as get a hand through the window.
Not sure whether its bullet proof but short of a jackhammer you wouldn't be getting through.

It is odd though, as the Police regularly patrol through Maccas.

[Pinkbits]

You can be assured that the "embona" taskforce will be staking out a few outlets in the next few days as the pattern looks very similar after only 3 hits. The police probably already know who they are looking for and hopefully it will be sooner rather than later.

As soon as i heard the helicopter last night i knew the local one had been hit.

[ThaFlash]

dark sedan (if i heard right) NSW rego, just heard on the radio to look out for.

[Barry_v]

smarter than robbing a servo i guess, best they get out of them is ~$100 cash float and a few ciggies. Maccas would have a bigger cash float that comes with a coke and fries.

the way you girls carry on about 'today's society' you'd think armed robbery was invented last week

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Barry_v

the way you girls carry on about 'today's society' you'd think armed robbery was invented last week

Back in the day, before i met my missus and had kids i used to associate with some HARD Blokes, not that im proud of it but growing up in Elizabeth made you hard, that or a victim...
Back then the golden rule was to never pick on people less well equipped than yourself.

Criminals of today have no morals, and by morals i mean they pick on kids and women...yes society has changed, so have the plastic gangsters.

Bring back Choppers law i say...now where did i put that blow torch

Edit...classic Norm

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Back in the day, before i met my missus and had kids i used to associate with some HARD Blokes, not that im proud of it but growing up in Elizabeth made you hard, that or a victim...
Back then the golden rule was to never pick on people less well equipped than yourself.

Criminals of today have no morals, and by morals i mean they pick on kids and women...yes society has changed, so have the plastic gangsters.

Bring back Choppers law i say...now where did i put that blow torch

Edit...classic Norm

So Rape, Murder, Bank Robberies didnt exist until this generation of kids? Up until then it was all one on one epic kung fu battles? Clearly gangs didnt prey on individuals at the largs, or the british or the birkenhead back when they were real pubs. Those victims must have beaten themselves up, and obviously my eyes were playing up.

I grew up in a hard neighbourhood as well, and there were and still are, only two rules, what you are capable of doing, and what you aren't.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

So Rape, Murder, Bank Robberies didnt exist until this generation of kids? Up until then it was all one on one epic kung fu battles? Clearly gangs didnt prey on individuals at the largs, or the british or the birkenhead back when they were real pubs. Those victims must have beaten themselves up, and obviously my eyes were playing up.

I grew up in a hard neighbourhood as well, and there were and still are, only two rules, what you are capable of doing, and what you aren't.

Yeah, all of those crimes and places dont really compare to holding up a joint full of kids though does it...

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Yeah, all of those crimes and places dont really compare to holding up a joint full of kids though does it...

Prob do the little turds a world of good...

Nation full of skirts is what we are turning into.

[Sourbastard]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Yeah, all of those crimes and places dont really compare to holding up a joint full of kids though does it...

You cant seriously believe robbing a maccas is worse than rape and murder.

[StrikeTwiceXR6]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

Back in the day, before i met my missus and had kids i used to associate with some HARD Blokes, not that im proud of it but growing up in Elizabeth made you hard, that or a victim...
Back then the golden rule was to never pick on people less well equipped than yourself.

Criminals of today have no morals, and by morals i mean they pick on kids and women...yes society has changed, so have the plastic gangsters.

Bring back Choppers law i say...now where did i put that blow torch

Edit...classic Norm

This is so true! Every night in Sydney you see so called "tough" people terrorising McDonalds carparks and throwing garbage everywhere. They do this because they know they will get little oposition from the teenage staff and the families that eat there. If these scumbags are so tough, go to the local bikie bar and carry on the way the do in the bar carpark. It's too easy to terrorise families and teenage staff though.

[BENT_8]

Only today i was driving down Bagsters rd (salisbury North for those playing at home) following a line of cars behind a learner driver instructor.
The vehicle directly behind the instructor was right up his .... so the instructor stopped the car and got out to approach the driver.
Now, the instructor was an overweight bloke of atleast 50yrs of age, didnt get aggressive, just made a point of mentioning the fact that he was trying to teach a kid how to drive.
well, the Meth head freak, proberbly late 30's, bounces out of his car and flies the instructor in the middle of the road...what a hero.

Then he realised where he was and who was watching...right out the front of the footy club.
So what did he do when he knew he was punching above his weight...he got back in his car and blew the horn...Plastic Gangster!

[3vXT]

It's a bloody outrage is what it is!

[chrisfpv]

I doubt they'll be hitting another McDonalds after this article. That's ofcourse assuming they have a brain. Which they probably don't cause I mean...c'mon...

[4Vman]

Maybe its this bloke..?

http://www.insightmrktg.com/2009/01/...he-hamburglar/