Over 50% of Territories are sold in Vic - why is this?

[MrZ]

I just read an article which lists the top selling models in each state:

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2014/...comment-208730

According to that list, the Ford Territory sold a staggering 7473 in Victoria, which accounts for 52.4% of it's national total of 14,261! Now, Victoria only makes up 24.5% of Australia's population, so all things being equal, only about 3500 Territories should have been sold here.

I can't figure it out. I know that Territories are built in Victoria, but so are Camrys. Yet Camry sold 7856 in Victoria (or "only" 31.6% of the national total).

I can only assume that a large percentage of buyers are Ford employees themselves? How else could the numbers be so high?

Also, another even bigger discrepancy is Ford Falcon sales in Tasmania. With that state making up only 2.2% of Australia's population, you would expect the Falcon to sell only around 230 over there. Instead, it sold a whopping 762, equaling 7.2% of total Falcon sales!

[Polyal]

Maybe Ford employees are buying up before they are gone. Otherwise there is no other "logical" reason, other than Victorians have better taste and not being stingy and getting a Captiva.

[Auslandau]

Because Victorians are smarter than the average Australian

[AndyXR6T]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

Because Victorians are smarter than the average Australian

That is the poorest reason I have ever heard... Ever

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by AndyXR6T

That is the poorest reason I have ever heard... Ever

Being from NSW I am surprised that you are typing and reading in a coherent fashion.

[AndyXR6T]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Being from NSW I am surprised that you are typing and reading in a coherent fashion.

Awwwwwwww here come the "yo mamma" jokes

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Auslandau

Because Victorians are smarter than the average Australian

I think it because Victorians know they cant drive and cant afford an Abrahams M1,
so they downsize to something more affordable...

[MrZ]

Well, let's assume all buyers are equal in all states, without any real loyalty to one brand over another. Maybe a little more towards Ford in Victoria, but nothing that would cause sales to double over any other state. What other reasons could there be? These figures are of course, registrations, and not sales. Could it be that Ford has registered thousands more Territories than they can actually sell, to try and boost the sales figure and make it seem higher?

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by MrZ

I just read an article which lists the top selling models in each state:

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2014/...comment-208730

According to that list, the Ford Territory sold a staggering 7473 in Victoria, which accounts for 52.4% of it's national total of 14,261! Now, Victoria only makes up 24.5% of Australia's population, so all things being equal, only about 3500 Territories should have been sold here.

I can't figure it out. I know that Territories are built in Victoria, but so are Camrys. Yet Camry sold 7856 in Victoria (or "only" 31.6% of the national total).

I can only assume that a large percentage of buyers are Ford employees themselves? How else could the numbers be so high?

Also, another even bigger discrepancy is Ford Falcon sales in Tasmania. With that state making up only 2.2% of Australia's population, you would expect the Falcon to sell only around 230 over there. Instead, it sold a whopping 762, equaling 7.2% of total Falcon sales!

The Victorian government & SA governments are about the only 2 who specify buying Australian made as part of their fleet policy. That would help the numbers.

As for Tassie buying Falcons, well they probably appreciated the open road prowess that the Falcon offers.

[MrZ]

Originally Posted by phillyc

The Victorian government & SA governments are about the only 2 who specify buying Australian made as part of their fleet policy. That would help the numbers.

Yet, the policy hasn't helped the Camry nearly as much in Victoria, as I pointed out in my initial post...

[Focused]

Yep it'll be their government's policies that is doing it. There are a lot of Territory police cars and it seems that most of the intensive care single responder paramedic cars are also Territorys (or Territories?)

It is interesting that there's so many Falcons sold in Tasmania, though. I wonder if there's a few good dealers down there?

[ZGM86]

Originally Posted by phillyc

As for Tassie buying Falcons, well they probably appreciated the open road prowess that the Falcon offers.

Yep, that and we have good taste in cars!

[Polyal]

Id be interested to know how many Ecoboosts get sold in TAS an QLD?

[Elks]

Seriously folks. The TT is a brilliant highway/gravel road vehicle. For the serious outback stuff in western NSW and all the other states you need a 4x4 with low range etc. not a high riding wagon which the TT is.

Don't get me wrong. The TT is brilliant. It's on road manners are so far above anything else bar X5 it's amazing.

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by Elks

For the serious outback stuff in western NSW and all the other states you need a 4x4 with low range etc. not a high riding wagon which the TT is.

As an old outbacker I've dispensed with that myth before. For generations people got around the outback in ordinary cars. When the toorak tractors became fashionable and people used them everywhere in the bush they churned up the tracks, making them self-justifying. It's one of the biggest automotive marketing con jobs in history. I used to trot around the bush in a Mini van and an Austin 1800!

An AWD Territory would be perfect for most bush use.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by new2ford

As an old outbacker I've dispensed with that myth before. For generations people got around the outback in ordinary cars. When the toorak tractors became fashionable and people used them everywhere in the bush they churned up the tracks, making them self-justifying. It's one of the biggest automotive marketing con jobs in history. I used to trot around the bush in a Mini van and an Austin 1800!

An AWD Territory would be perfect for most bush use.

Spot on a family sedan use to do the trick no problem at all, now it needs to be a $100K 4 x 4 with diff locks and hi/low gears.

Same mentality that the first home has a media room, 4 bedrooms, a home office and a pool. When my first memory of my parents was 2 bedroom flat and I shared a room with my brother.


Off topic Sorry

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Spot on a family sedan use to do the trick no problem at all, now it needs to be a $100K 4 x 4 with diff locks and hi/low gears.

Same mentality that the first home has a media room, 4 bedrooms, a home office and a pool. When my first memory of my parents was 2 bedroom flat and I shared a room with my brother.

The Power of Marketing bro ;)

[bobthebilda]

The tasmanian results have a much greater level of percentage differences than the other states do over the previous years. These sort of things would probaby be down to fleet renewals etc. I dont know how they do it today, but I am pretty sure that rental companies used to be able to register the cars in the cheapest states, even tho they werent going to be based there. The other thing of note is that there is only one Australian car (camry) that shows up in the top ten for the three states (qld, nt, wa) furtherest from the local manufacturers. Either the citizens dont care about local manufacturers, or that importers who boat their cars in from overseas have a supply and cost advantage over those who have to truck 6-8 cars at a time over 1000's of kilometres.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Spot on a family sedan use to do the trick no problem at all, now it needs to be a $100K 4 x 4 with diff locks and hi/low gears.

Same mentality that the first home has a media room, 4 bedrooms, a home office and a pool. When my first memory of my parents was 2 bedroom flat and I shared a room with my brother.


Off topic Sorry

Cars were once built on a frame, had a solid rear axle, had higher ground clearance, with larger profile tyres. They were also much cheaper and not as fancy. It was ok to beat them up a little more. Now if you are going to be a little rough on a car and you are going to pay good money for it, might as well get one that is made for it.

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by chevypower

Cars were once built on a frame, had a solid rear axle, had higher ground clearance, with larger profile tyres. They were also much cheaper and not as fancy. It was ok to beat them up a little more. Now if you are going to be a little rough on a car and you are going to pay good money for it, might as well get one that is made for it.

So all those low-slung, monocoque cars and utes running around Australian farms and bush since the 1940s must be a figment of my imagination?

Come to think of it, the idea of all that "SUV" stuff came from the USA didn't it?

Nothing much that couldn't be solved by some hessian bags and a block and tackle in the boot.

[turbodewd]

Id say its State pride. And they are supporting their local produce. Everyone on these forums also supports their produce.

But not the so-called Aust Defence Force who buy Klugers. Whoever made that decision should be demoted!

[Brazen]

Tourism is one of Tasmanias largest industries, so you will see cars like the Falcon over represented as its one of the most popular rental cars.

[tezxr8man]

Originally Posted by turbodewd

Id say its State pride. And they are supporting their local produce. Everyone on these forums also supports their produce.

But not the so-called Aust Defence Force who buy Klugers. Whoever made that decision should be demoted!

and most government departments up here in QLD, they are even using
santa fe's up here instead of territories as cop cars, WTF

[turbodewd]

Originally Posted by tezxr8man

and most government departments up here in QLD, they are even using
santa fe's up here instead of territories as cop cars, WTF

What was ever the point of Federal governments giving subsidies to the automakers when lameo State govts go ahead and do this. It beggars belief and makes my blood boil. I emailed the ACT govt on this twice and pointed out the sillyness of the situation coz they do the same crap here. Just idiocy.

Too late now. And by the sounds of it Ford US wanted to go global with all models so the Falcon was gonna be bumped either way...

[Magna]

I've seen heaps of SZs here in Victoria, mostly Titaniums. I keep thinking Ford aren't doing too bad with so many on the road. I'm one of the 7473 smart Victorians with a SZ!

[Cuyper]

They are everywhere on the roads here in Victoria, why?. Because we use them for water storage lol

[Vesper Martini]

There was a big push by Ford with the Employee or associate discount, that could zone it to Victoria.
I bet Blackwoods in Wodonga get a few NSW customers too from just over the Border

[monzie]

I bet Blackwoods in Wodonga get a few NSW customers too from just over the Border[/QUOTE]

All along the Murray the main towns are on the Vic side, Yarrawonga, Cobram, Echuca, Swanhill, Mildura so southern NSW buyers may get put in with the Vic numbers.

Pete

[Shaggzy]

Originally Posted by monzie

I bet Blackwoods in Wodonga get a few NSW customers too from just over the Border

All along the Murray the main towns are on the Vic side, Yarrawonga, Cobram, Echuca, Swanhill, Mildura so southern NSW buyers may get put in with the Vic numbers.

Pete[/QUOTE]



Didn't somebody say on the first page that it goes Off the number of registrations rather than sales? Which means the southern NSW buyers wouldn't count as they would be registering there cars in NSW.

[mik]

It's funny this post came up today, Edit.... er yesterday, I was driving around yesterday in melb burbs I was sitting in traffic and every direction I looked I was seeing a territory and I'm thinking jeez theres a lot of terri's ......... they must be a ripping car to drive.