another young life is waste!

dtp · 29-07-2007, 06:24 PM

http://au.news.yahoo.com/070317/2/12s6d.html?f=mv

philstoj · 29-07-2007, 06:32 PM

Well no one is telling them to waste their lives like that...

I feel sorry for the victim, but no mater what laws and rules there are, and what everyone tells them, they wont change.

sexr6tasy · 29-07-2007, 06:41 PM

29 year old common whore drive hits Mazda, Passenger not wearing a seatbelt by the sounds of it flys out the window and dies interesting

FPV8U · 29-07-2007, 06:44 PM

Sad to see, why people don't wear seatbelts in cars is beyond me it's always the first thing to go on and the last to come off for me.

Green X · 29-07-2007, 06:48 PM

yeah well, Stupidity is the word, anyone who was in Perth friday night would know what the whether was like so where the driver got the idia that it would be a good idea to be doing 160km/h in those conditions i don't know and at 16 you would think you would have the brains to be wearing a seat belt if you were in a car doing that sot of speed.

I was heading out of dwelling-up at around 8pm on the Friday night back over to the Albany Hwy and it was absolutely ****ing down, we almost came off the road when we crossed a bridge at 100km/h that had flooded over with water and we lost all froward vision as water covered the windscreen, the only thing I think that saved us was I took the 4WD over the XR6Turbo, It has fairly deep treaded aggressive tyres on it that were able to expel enough water to stop us aquaplaning/ sliding and i just held the steering wheel straight on.

Gabbs · 29-07-2007, 06:53 PM

It was on the front page of the newspaper today. It was a mazda 6 mps and she didn't have a seat belt on.
I'm like fpv8u its goes on straight away for me without even thinking yet some people still don't do it.

Skotty · 30-07-2007, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by gabbs19

It was on the front page of the newspaper today. It was a mazda 6 mps and she didn't have a seat belt on.
I'm like fpv8u its goes on straight away for me without even thinking yet some people still don't do it.

lol, i am the same... alltho it is embarrasing at work, when bringing cars into the workshop throwing on the seatbelt by mistake to move a car 20 - 50 meters

The Monty · 30-07-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Skotty

lol, i am the same... alltho it is embarrasing at work, when bringing cars into the workshop throwing on the seatbelt by mistake to move a car 20 - 50 meters

I dont care if Im going from a-b and its 20m away, its the first thing I do, as well as turn the lights on.

J_Tank · 30-07-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monty

I dont care if Im going from a-b and its 20m away, its the first thing I do, as well as turn the lights on.

x2.. just not the foggies..

. Seriously why not? There are plent of drivers who have seriously effected vision yet are still driving, not to mention plenty who get distracted easily. It's good to be ''seen'' on the road for the right reasons.

asusdragon · 29-07-2007, 07:01 PM

my GF was just say to me that this same Girl "Chloe" rolled her parents car on the thursday night then got killed saturday in the above story. sorry but does anyone get the feeling of stupidity

WAXBFAR · 29-07-2007, 07:01 PM

On top of that was the reporting here by the local media that this girl had wrecked/crashed her parents car the day/night before in similar stunts of public road dragracing.
Parents are suppositly on holydays out of Australia.
Oops double post kinda like at the same time

asusdragon · 29-07-2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WAXBFAR

On top of that was the reporting here by the local media that this girl had wrecked/crashed her parents car the day/night before in similar stunts of public road dragracing.
Parents are suppositly on holydays out of Australia.
Oops double post kinda like at the same time

was wondering why no one else had put that yet lol yeah they are in Hong Kong or there abouts

nobbystang · 29-07-2007, 10:12 PM

Welcome home Mum and Dad!!

nobbystang · 29-07-2007, 10:27 PM

Such a waste

Another story that talks to her boyfriend and some friends, also mentions crash rumours from night before

Hunter · 30-07-2007, 12:04 AM

Stupidity, just pure stupidity and ignorance. No amount of legislation or restrictions (short of restricting them to not using cars at all) is going to stop kids killing themselves in stupid ways. Even if they're not in a car it seems the attitude of kids is what kills them - recently a 15 year old girl was skittled (died instantly) in Brisbane CBD after walking out from behind a bus (I always taught this was stupid and dumb but what do I know).

I remember when I was in grade 12 many moons ago now and they had the local coppers come in and show us pics of wrecked cars that were involved in fatalities... didn't have much effect on me at the time but I reckon if they showed the corpses (or what is left of them) and interviews with the grief stricken families it might show them. Then again you could yell at a teenagers until you're blue in the face and I very much doubt they'd listen. The same people who, as teenagers, think that they're 10 ft tall and bullet proof carry this attitude on with them... I see it everyday people saying "Oh that can't happen to me" but it can and does. Smokers start out thinking they won't get lung cancer, then they do. People who don't wear a jimmy hat eventually cop HIV or some other nasty disease after thinking "it won't happen to me".

Several years ago a girl my sister went to school with died in a similar accident at Brendale (on Kremzow Rd for those that know the area). From what I read/heard she was a rear middle seat passenger in a car (I think it was a Commodore, surprise surprise) and not wearing a seatbelt. The driver (who survived) lost control at about 150-160 km/h in a 50-60 zone while being a hero and doing handbrake u-turns at high speed. Car spun out of control hit a tree and the girl was sent flying out the front/rear windscreen. Paramedics turned up and treated the injured but it wasn't until they were about to leave that they found her lying in amongst the trees/bushes, I believe she later died in hospital but it was so long ago I can't recall.

I don't doubt that the driver will be haunted by his idiotic actions for the rest of his life.

But I see so many young girls hooning around in their 'hot hatches' or whatever and well eventually they come unstuck, I doubt most of them even understand the basic principles of motor vehicles and how to handle them at 60 km/h let alone 160 km/h.

Oh and apparently you have a much greater risk of being hit by lightning than being killed by a terrorist... But what of the statistical risk of dying in a MVA? Pretty high actually!

merlin · 30-07-2007, 02:03 PM

I try to remember the belt in the car and 99% of the time always do - but being used to a bike I do sometimes forget about it or tend to have a bit of a blaze attitude towards it (thought process is "Hell I'm in a metal cage with, intrusion bars, air bags, abs ect. this is paradise compared to....well... a leather jacket"). Always getting yelled at about it...(deservedly so).

red_october · 30-07-2007, 02:39 PM

I find it hard to muster up sympathy, to be honest. If the parents think the kid is old enough to make decisions on her own, then she can take the consequences.

Yes, it's a waste of a life, but does anyone that age really care? They think they're bulletproof.

Some may think I'm being heartless, but I'm sick and tired of some of the younger generation getting away with murder...literally...

XTGTinterceptor · 30-07-2007, 02:41 PM

What was a mazda doing travelling at 160 clicks with 5 people in anyway? its like running down a steep hill with an over loaded wheel barrow carrying bricks, as for seat belts, My best friend at the time was over the limit on a dirt road in a mazda hatch going too fast at 80 kph in a 100 kph zone on a series of bends that I have driven on and 60kph is hairy, My beautiful sister about to turn 21 at my house the following week end (3 days to go) was in the back and another so called friend beside her. Court heard that he was driving erratically and dangerously trying to get home before the fuel drained out of a leaking fuel tank mean while were arguments from back seat to the driver to slow down. There were also comments of jeallousy between the boys over her and competition apparent. driver looks into mirror for a) watching whats going on in fear of foul play, b) he heard a seatbelt release that distracted him. The seat belt was released indefence from backseat passenger due to fear that my sister had of tree's coming too close to her window and wanted to get further away from injury incase of collision. with that distraction driver missed judged the next tight corner and ariel photos show that while already out of control run off the road and jammed car headon into one tree and swung to jam in between another front to back she was thrown forward between front seats and due to the esky in boot the rear of the seat was removed so the grog could be accessed for the trip from Melb to central Vic. ( that was when the driver was designated passenger) then designated driver became passenger and vise verser) any way the Jack wasnt fastened and flew through the car causing internal injuries to my Sister. Between the fatal internal injuries and fatal neck injuries , had she not taken the seat belt off the situation would be signifficantly different. We decided that she may have been seriously impaired or left with life not worth living conditions. She left behind her 2 and half year old Daughter. My best friend at the time is my G'Friends cousin. I had Accident recently and my seat belt saved me and it gave me spinal, pelvic and rib breaks and fractures rendering me unable to do physical work. I guess we could have lived togeather[I][U] together nuffaly ever after. Any way I always will and have, put my seat belt on and anyone in my vehicle refuses to do the same , WALKS. Its a shame that these things happen legislation put a speed restriction from 100 kph down to 60 kph the driver was Jailed briefly some some small fines and the designated driver sucked up my for 3- 4 years before putting the hard word on my Girlfriend half a dozen times while I was away. will we ever know who our friends really are? we definately cannot control them! people will do as they see fit and suffer the consequences later. And so will we. I have spoken to the driver since And living with Hate is harder than acceptance. but I will never forgive the designated driver.NEVER. I am the only living sibling of three out of a possible 7 from one reason to another, Hence " only the strong Survive " Such is life, Have yours a good one. Cheers! :eclipsee_

Bucknaked · 30-07-2007, 06:02 PM

Would have thought crashing mum and dads car the night before would be a valuable lesson. Maybe it was as she wasn't driving this car. She was a passenger.

DJL351 · 30-07-2007, 06:33 PM

I don't see it as a waste etc..... she's gone.... Darwin's Theory at work.

After all, if she'd been caught before driving when she shouldn't and then as reported crashed another car just 24Hr earlier.... it plain to me she didn't have a brain in her head and got what was coming to her.

It's time everyone stopped feeling sorry for these idiots.

Poor thing this, bright/smart kid that..... smart! 140+ in a car, wet roads, strong winds and no seat belt..... bright indeed.

These kids do not learn... they place flowers at the sight and carry on etc...
but I know half of them will be back on the road doing the same thing by the weekend.

FPV8U · 31-07-2007, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DJL351

I don't see it as a waste etc..... she's gone.... Darwin's Theory at work.

After all, if she'd been caught before driving when she shouldn't and then as reported crashed another car just 24Hr earlier.... it plain to me she didn't have a brain in her head and got what was coming to her.

It's time everyone stopped feeling sorry for these idiots.

Poor thing this, bright/smart kid that..... smart! 140+ in a car, wet roads, strong winds and no seat belt..... bright indeed.

These kids do not learn... they place flowers at the sight and carry on etc...
but I know half of them will be back on the road doing the same thing by the weekend.

As much as i agree with pretty much all you have said, i don't think it's really right to post such things about people who have past away, stupidity or not.

DJL351 · 31-07-2007, 09:59 AM

Meh.... I'm just sick to death of having to hear of it.
They blame/punish us all for the actions of a few and it is well beyond a joke now.

General Statement - If you want your children to "do the right thing" behind the wheel... start with teaching them respect.
Towards others and themselves.

If my old man had have found out that I was driving without a licence, even now at 31..... oh boy.
(not to mention my mother going off like frog in a sock)

At 15-16 I would not dare even start either of the then family vehicles... let alone take one out for a burn.
(and I was taught to drive at 14(ish))

I'm 31, I've been lucky. I can not think of one friend that has lost their lives this way. Yet my sister at 28 has lost at least 4.
(plus one freak one where it was not his fault)
She was raised differently to me. She has no respect for her family or even her own equipment etc. (ie her car)
This translates in the way she acts and drives on the road...

My olds bought my first car for me. (an old Datsun Sunny)
But to keep it, I had to service and maintain it. Wash it weekly etc.
If dad found one thing wrong with it, I lost it for at least a week, sometimes longer.
Most of my friends did not have the same restriction placed on them, but they seemed to learn/follow from my "lessons".

We drove like fools at times. But always made sure we picked the time and location.
I even lost it a couple of times on wet roads, out on the back roads....
But with a JB Camira v's a Datsun Sunny... we never really had the pace to do a great deal of damage.

With Gen"Y" it is even worse. They expect everything to be given/handded to them on a platter....
(as a whole, there are always exceptions to the "rule")
At 17, they have jobs and can get loans without hassle.
(my old man had to go guarantor for the loan for me to buy the XR6... and I was 21!)
Cars that were out of my price range, are now cheap cars...
They're buying nasty bits of gear, as cheap as they can, so they can spend more money on "bling".
Going out and having "fun", wasting the rear tyres, then expecting them to work for "normal" driving the next day when it's wet.
A young bloke up the road has gone through four pair of rear tyres in 6 weeks, replacing 3 rims while he's at it.
His parents... "can't work out why he's spending so much on tyres?"
In the wet of the last few days here in Perth, he's now written the car off.
It didn't stop in time and t-boned a couple in their late 50's, just coming home from a night out.
His parent's reaction to this..... "we'll have to get him another car".
His response to that... "My mate has his SS for sale".... and to top it of, they look like getting it for him.

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I do understand, a family has lost their child. I do feel for them, in a way.

bingoTE50 · 30-07-2007, 07:21 PM

Ok people , I have a 14yr old ,car crazy son. Whats the best advice I could give him..
I intend to have him do Advanced Driver courses 1 & 2 , as I had done.But he has to get a liscence first.
Do I get him in a paddock now and get him some early experience , take him go-carting ,or maybe a morgue to scare the crap out of him. Its not easy is it ...
Now my son is a A grade student and I don't think he would be as silly as the girl you are talking about , but where is my guarantee !! We need to communicate a bit better with the younger generation , if old farts like(44) us keep bagging them they will never listen. Yeah, they think they are bullet proof ,but didn't we. How many mates or girls you went to school with ended up dead in cars ,our age . I can think of 3 straight up.
Did we listen , its a miracle I am here , I put my hand up , I endangered mates and myself many times as a teenager and early twenties . I bet you guys have too.

XTGTinterceptor · 30-07-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bingoTE50

Ok people , I have a 14yr old ,car crazy son. Whats the best advice I could give him..
I intend to have him do Advanced Driver courses 1 & 2 , as I had done.But he has to get a liscence first.
Do I get him in a paddock now and get him some early experience , take him go-carting ,or maybe a morgue to scare the crap out of him. Its not easy is it ...
Now my son is a A grade student and I don't think he would be as silly as the girl you are talking about , but where is my guarantee !! We need to communicate a bit better with the younger generation , if old farts like(44) us keep bagging them they will never listen. Yeah, they think they are bullet proof ,but didn't we. How many mates or girls you went to school with ended up dead in cars ,our age . I can think of 3 straight up.
Did we listen , its a miracle I am here , I put my hand up , I endangered mates and myself many times as a teenager and early twenties . I bet you guys have too.

yep good call as for your son, get him all the experience you can provide ,even before he gets his licence. look up death sites on the net everything, sit beside him in the paddock and put him in a pannic situation teach him how things can go wrong and how to handle it. But honestly in growing up I found that the most problems came from those that felt they have nothing to live for and no real purpose in life and basically didnt care much for consequence. Give your son a wealth of being and importance to exisist and let self preservation do the rest. If you dont like the pain of being burnt you generally wont put your hand in the fire.

merlin · 30-07-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bingoTE50

Ok people , I have a 14yr old ,car crazy son. Whats the best advice I could give him..
I intend to have him do Advanced Driver courses 1 & 2 , as I had done.But he has to get a liscence first.
Do I get him in a paddock now and get him some early experience , take him go-carting ,or maybe a morgue to scare the crap out of him. Its not easy is it ...
Now my son is a A grade student and I don't think he would be as silly as the girl you are talking about , but where is my guarantee !! We need to communicate a bit better with the younger generation , if old farts like(44) us keep bagging them they will never listen. Yeah, they think they are bullet proof ,but didn't we. How many mates or girls you went to school with ended up dead in cars ,our age . I can think of 3 straight up.
Did we listen , its a miracle I am here , I put my hand up , I endangered mates and myself many times as a teenager and early twenties . I bet you guys have too.

I don't think it is about advanced driving courses at all - you can have all the experience in the world and still drive like a knob, safety is all in the attitude. Probably more about respect for his old man. If he has that, and you always give him "the talk" now and then, then he is more likely to not want to disappoint you and hence will do the right thing out there. My 2c.

Keepleft · 30-07-2007, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by merlin

I don't think it is about advanced driving courses at all - you can have all the experience in the world and still drive like a knob, safety is all in the attitude.

Prezactly, if anything by way of 'courses', a defensive one.

Young bloke candidates in WA - ensure he reads of often the WA 'Drive Safe' book.

graphixboy · 31-07-2007, 07:59 AM

I have a son that's now 21 so I feel I have got through the tough first few years..

What I did with him was from about 14 years old, I always pointed out news of young peoples accidents and stressed to him about speed and peoples lack of experience/respect and just generally all thing that contribute to accidents and always discussed it openly with him.

My concern was not his driving but being in other young drivers cars when they deiced that they are invincible (as all young people think they are)... I pointed out that the driver often walks away and its the passengers that pay the price.

My advise was, if there being tools ask them to pull there head in (but in not so many words), but if that isn't an option just get out of the car... If you don't think they'll stop for you, tell them your about to be sick and they will stop. You can ring me from anywhere anytime and I'll come and get you.

Over the last 5 or 6 years that he has been going out with his mates I have only been rung the once to come and get him and his girlfriend and what a comforting thought that was and to know he has enough sense to know when to bail defiantly helps me sleep at night....

Sorry about the rant, but as a parent it is such a worry and you can teach your children to be sensible behind a wheel, but it's that "other" person he was in the car with that scares me.

asusdragon · 30-07-2007, 08:21 PM

well hopefully if you son is a smart guy then he will do the right thing driving also, i think that advanced driving training would do wonders also i did it and i think alot of ppl on here also, saved my *** a few times coz i have know how to handle the car better if i do get in to a shitty position

2fishingdogs · 30-07-2007, 08:49 PM

I have a car crazied son as well he is only 9.5yr and already i'm trying to teach him right and wrong with cars. I have taken him on cruise's to show that you don't have to speed and be idiotic to have fun with cars. The Broadie carpark on Saturday was an one opener for me (B-series cruise), and me son loved it ( he started picking on the Dunnydoors that where there). But then on the way home had some idoits that wanted a race at every set of lights and he started saying "what stupid people where are the police". I hope to keep bring him to such events to reinforce that you don't have to drive fast or side way to have fun with cars.