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Old 12-10-2007, 11:29 AM   #1
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Default VE Commodore Sportswagon

Available soon from Omega through to SS-V (including an SS).

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Old 12-10-2007, 11:52 AM   #2
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Available soon from Omega through to SS-V (including an SS).
and available next year is Fords XR8 and Turbo option wagons.....................
oh wait.....as if. :
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:28 PM   #3
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and available next year is Fords XR8 and Turbo option wagons.....................
oh wait.....as if. :
Heard of the Turbo Territory? FPV F6 X Territory???

Ford have been down the "sports falcon wagon" road a few times now wit XR variants and nobody bought them, once bittern twice shy id say..



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Old 13-10-2007, 12:15 PM   #4
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Heard of the Turbo Territory? FPV F6 X Territory???

Ford have been down the "sports falcon wagon" road a few times now wit XR variants and nobody bought them, once bittern twice shy id say..
Besides the Terry the only 'sports falcon wagon' were the EF XR6
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:53 AM   #5
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mmmm...that's something Ford are definitely lacking in at the moment...a nice wagon!
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:53 AM   #6
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Are they doing a Calais and a Calais V Option aswell?

I dont think either Ford or Holden have ever offered this many Wagons Variants before, Holden must think they are going to crack a new market...
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:57 AM   #7
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Are they doing a Calais and a Calais V Option aswell?

I dont think either Ford or Holden have ever offered this many Wagons Variants before, Holden must think they are going to crack a new market...
its bringing back the old days where you could get whatever package you want in whichever body you choose.
being a consumer, WE should be able to choose what we want in a car, not what we are TOLD we can have.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:00 PM   #8
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heres a hsv version
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:02 PM   #9
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heres a hsv version
not a bad photoshop... too bad the whole VE range looks sh*thouse.

should have integrated the E-series side guard flutes though.
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Old 12-10-2007, 05:36 PM   #10
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heres a hsv version
Nice use of an FPV bodykit!

I reckon the wagon looks pretty good. I'd also like to see Ford offer a full range of wagons again. At the moment you can only get XT and Futura, all in auto, with the Barra 190 as the only engine. A pitiful range. Ford wagons used to have V8s, manuals, XR6s, and Fairmont Ghias. No wonder they don't sell that many.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:42 PM   #11
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some moron at the chrysler/dodge stand (he worked there) told me that Holden copied their 300C wagon for the 'sportwagon' design. i just said "what about saab" and he walked off.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:01 PM   #12
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oooo a territory!!!! whoops, my mistake....:P

That is going to look ugly in Omega guise. Doesnt look too bad there, but if u take away the rims, put it to normal ride height for the VE it wont look any good at all!
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:02 PM   #13
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^^^^^ I'd hate to say this, but I still don't think it's better then the VT Wagon (Only holden I actually like.)^^^^^
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:09 PM   #14
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I dont mind it,very european looking,from the side it looks like an audi or something along those lines.
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Old 12-10-2007, 01:18 PM   #15
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If its available in any any model type (Omega-SSV) thats a pretty big deal, its been a long time since you could do that with either Ford OR Holden. Senator Wagon could be nice.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:06 PM   #16
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hurts to say, but it actually looks good. I like its lines.
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Old 13-10-2007, 06:28 AM   #17
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hurts to say, but it actually looks good. I like its lines.
Agree :(
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:30 PM   #18
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I actually think it looks quite nice. Heres the official site for it:

http://www.clearyourcalendar.com.au/...CALAENDARHOME2

Boot space is very good, but i'm going to stay loyal to Ford. Bugger me an XR8 Wagon would be nice though.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:44 PM   #19
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I think it looks good, very euro. Would look good on its guts with big wheels.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:50 PM   #20
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I think it looks good, very euro. Would look good on its guts with big wheels.
When i was down at bathurst i saw a silver calais sedan on its gut and with some nice spoked wheels, it looked magnificant. Very modern and the short front overhang also looked very very good. Cant say im much of a fan of the wagon at thins stage, but it will grow on me as all the VE range has over time.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:54 PM   #21
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Who said boot space is good? : I would say very 'European', which stands for, "Cant fit a bloody thing in the back!"



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Old 13-10-2007, 09:47 AM   #22
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Sportswagon usually stands for NO ROOM. Nice looking vehicle IMO, bet it doesn't have leaf springs either.
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Have any of guy's actually tried putting equipment in the back of a VE wagon? I'd at least try one out before bagging it.
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Have any of guy's actually tried putting equipment in the back of a VE wagon? I'd at least try one out before bagging it.
UM ..... no I havnt, but if that space is big, the rest of the car must be the Queen bloody Mary!



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UM ..... no I havnt, but if that space is big, the rest of the car must be the Queen bloody Mary!
Agreed. There must only be less than a metre between the tailgate and the rear seats, and the roof is low, so that space is going to be useless. There's probably just as much space in the back of a 7 seat Territory. Holden must love making useless fashion statements, first the ute thats impracticle as a ute and now a wagon thats impractle as a wagon. They both may as well have been sedans for all their worth.
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Agreed. There must only be less than a metre between the tailgate and the rear seats, and the roof is low, so that space is going to be useless. There's probably just as much space in the back of a 7 seat Territory. Holden must love making useless fashion statements, first the ute thats impracticle as a ute and now a wagon thats impractle as a wagon. They both may as well have been sedans for all their worth.
And this is going to matter how when the sales figures will be huge? Ford can go out and make a more PRACTICAL version, but if it doesn't look as good it wont sell as well.

It makes no difference how practical it is... Only how well it sells. The VE is a larger car so the wagon is not actually that small... Its as large as a VS wagon.
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And this is going to matter how when the sales figures will be huge? Ford can go out and make a more PRACTICAL version, but if it doesn't look as good it wont sell as well.

It makes no difference how practical it is... Only how well it sells. The VE is a larger car so the wagon is not actually that small... Its as large as a VS wagon.
Cause it defeats the purpose of having a wagon if you can't really use the small storage space. You may as well just buy a sedan as it will just about be as useful.
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And this is going to matter how when the sales figures will be huge? Ford can go out and make a more PRACTICAL version, but if it doesn't look as good it wont sell as well.

It makes no difference how practical it is... Only how well it sells. The VE is a larger car so the wagon is not actually that small... Its as large as a VS wagon.
Are you suggesting people buy wagons based on looks over functionality???



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I really do like it, much better than the sedan. But it will look gay in Omega form, like the sedan. But credit to Holden for making the wagon more cool and offering it in all models, instead of just letting the wagon die like Ford will end up doing.
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I really do like it, much better than the sedan. But it will look gay in Omega form, like the sedan. But credit to Holden for making the wagon more cool and offering it in all models, instead of just letting the wagon die like Ford will end up doing.
The advice I have from a Ford dealer was that they don't offer wagons to the general public anymore, they don't keep any new ones in the yard. They direct them all the way of the Territory.
They do however offer wagons to their corporate customers (which I was).

It is dissapointing. If they get rid of the wagon, does that mean the ute is then going to be on the chopping block too? It would be the only LWB Falcon left. I doubt they'll let that happen.
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