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Old 23-04-2008, 10:57 PM   #1
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My au has for the last month been having the battery warning light on the dash come on and then always go back of within a minute. Had no problems for 3 weeks but then got a dead battery out of the blue. Charged the battery to full and it didn't hold but that's understandable considering its over 3 years old so replaced it thinking this would stop the warning light coming on but no such luck. Just wondering where my first port of call would be? Is this a common easily fixed problem? I hope so because i am busy as hell every day 12 hours for next month more or less seeding so don't have time to worry but i'm just hoping it won't wreck my new $105 battery. Hope someone can shed some light thanks in advance

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Old 23-04-2008, 11:24 PM   #2
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Battery light usually means your alternator is on the way out. Given that you have replaced the battery, the alternator is where I'd be looking next. Your local RACV/NRMA can test it and tell you if it's charging properly or not. And if you're worried about $105 for a battery, make sure you're sitting down when you ask for a price on an alternator.
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Old 23-04-2008, 11:47 PM   #3
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as a auto elec the battery light as u mentioned generally means the altanator has had it, this normally means it is out of brushes. Because it is out of brushes it will probably chage the battery intermidently (i cant spell ) for a couple days before completly stopping.. A new alternator we sell at my work for about $285, then of course you got about and hour to fit.. Hope this helps
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as a auto elec the battery light as u mentioned generally means the altanator has had it, this normally means it is out of brushes. Because it is out of brushes it will probably chage the battery intermidently (i cant spell ) for a couple days before completly stopping.. A new alternator we sell at my work for about $285, then of course you got about and hour to fit.. Hope this helps
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Old 24-04-2008, 12:03 AM   #5
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haha yer sounds like a plan.. if ya dont wanna pay the 100 or so to get it fitted, ya got bout an hour and ya got a
-10mm socket and ratchet
-phillips head screwdriver
-10mm spanner to undo battery terminals
-pry bar or bar of good length and strength
Then i could post up some pics and guide ya through it if ya want with pics? if ya interested then let me know??
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Old 24-04-2008, 09:15 AM   #6
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haha yer sounds like a plan.. if ya dont wanna pay the 100 or so to get it fitted, ya got bout an hour and ya got a
-10mm socket and ratchet
-phillips head screwdriver
-10mm spanner to undo battery terminals
-pry bar or bar of good length and strength
Then i could post up some pics and guide ya through it if ya want with pics? if ya interested then let me know??
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I'd be interested in seeing a guide.
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Old 24-04-2008, 11:03 AM   #7
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-pry bar or bar of good length and strength

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or you can fit a 3/8 ratchet drive into the tensioner and put it up to release the belt..... alot easier

thats what the square part in there is for......... to insert the drive head into
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Old 24-04-2008, 12:27 AM   #8
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Another question ... is you power steer reservoir leaking as well?????
if it is ... that is usually a cause of failure of the alternator as well.

I drive around for quite some time with the battery lighting coming on intermittently as well ... a bit of revs stopped the light coming on (only usually when stopped in traffic idling).

I had the ute booked in to get the leak fixed and get the alternator fixed as well ... but didn't get a chance to make it ... I conked out as I was about to drive into a loading dock through a set of lights ... I dropped it in N and let it roll through (just).

NRMA came and fitted a brand new alternator for $300 ... and I was on my way again (1 hour wait for NRMA ... about 20 minutes for him to fit it).
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Old 24-04-2008, 06:33 PM   #9
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if your power steering fluid is leaking into the alternator (evidence of fluid on the bottom of the pump and some on the alternator (not as obvious usualyl as it seeps into the holes)

just grab a can of circuit board cleaner or CRC lectra-clean and give it a REALLY good spraying
then let it sit for a while to allow the stuff to evaporate and then start up your car
should be sweet for a good while

as my batt light started flickering on startup somtimes
now shes fine after fixing the leak and degreasing and smothering the alternator with lectra clean
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Old 24-04-2008, 06:44 PM   #10
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just as a matter of interest Macca1810, how many k`s has your car got on it.
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Old 24-04-2008, 06:58 PM   #11
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hi guys my AU Fairmonts battery light comes on every day or two for about 10 minutes or so nothing seems to affect it reving turning lights on stopping and starting the motor it has a mind of its own then about 12 months ago the battery died I bought a new one $90 for a century I always liked century batteries the car starts and runs perfectly but the battery light still comes on and then goes off every 10 minutes or so all by itself for no apparent reason so I just live with it its annoying but what the heck
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Old 24-04-2008, 09:37 PM   #12
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I had this problem a few months back. The power steering high pressure line had a fine leak which dropped fluid into the alternator brushes.
The fluid then mixes with the brush dust to form a very effective grinding paste which unfortunately buggers the alternator.
Long story short; fix the leaking p/s pump AND fix the alternator or risk fixing the alternator twice. I got mine done for $230 c/o for the alt and $60 for the hose.
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Old 24-04-2008, 10:30 PM   #13
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Yer Au_falcon_99 u are right witht the 3/8 ratchet, however i am lazy and also find that a pry bar is easier for me anyway personal opinion haha..

But If any1 is interested in a guide for changing an altenator then i can do one up with picyures and see if i can get it posted in the tech area for every1 to use??
Reckon any1 would find it useful?
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Old 24-04-2008, 11:02 PM   #14
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would be a great guide to have.
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Old 24-04-2008, 11:08 PM   #15
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well i will get 1 together tomorrow and post it up here sometime in the next week, hopfully it helps someone out haha
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Old 26-04-2008, 08:44 PM   #16
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That's for the info guys i was gunna guess it was the alternator because if it doesn't keep the battery charged properly it will wreck the battery. Looks like i'll be getting a new alt and from my inspection of it last week i don't think there was any leaks from ps. Car has done 238,888kms mik
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Old 28-04-2008, 06:41 PM   #17
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thanks mate , that seems a pretty fair life for an alternator , theres a reco one on ebay but no mention of warranty i can see, i think i`d go with a newey myself, heres the link anyway.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Reco-Alternat...80426092a17526
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Old 28-04-2008, 08:59 PM   #18
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i stumbled across this while i was looking for a power steering hose for mine.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FORD-AU-BA-6-...QQcmdZViewItem
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