Chinese Ute already recalled...

AWD Chaser · 27-12-2009, 05:00 PM

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...25768E000636A6

WTF - The seatbelt failed during ANCAP testing yet this car was still allowed to go on sale to the public????? Thats insaine!!!!!!

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A CHINESE-made ute that scored just two stars under the independent Australian New Car Assessment Program (ANCAP) when a seatbelt failed in crash testing has been recalled to fix the belt retracting mechanism.
The $23,990 Great Wall Motors V240 twin-cab – launched as the first Chinese vehicle on the Australian market in June alongside its even cheaper $19,990 sibling, the SA220 – was roundly criticised by road safety experts after the ANCAP result was made public.
ANCAP engineers reported the belt failure to the federal transport department, whose administrator of vehicle standards took up the issue with the importer Ateco Automotive.
The safety recall campaign was announced this week on the federal Australian Competition and Consumer Commission’s web site which said the front seat belt retracting mechanism could fail to correctly restrain occupants under extreme loads.
The statement blamed a “manufacturing tolerance” for the potential failure of the seatbelts.
Great Wall Motors spokesman Daniel Cotterill today told GoAuto that the company had received no reports of V240 seat belt failure on Australian roads.
However, he said the recall had been announced so the company could replace the mechanism on 115 cars, while a further 285 vehicles would be checked.
SA220 (top and centre), V240 (bottom).
V240 owners have been asked to return their vehicle to their dealer for the rectification work.
Mr Cotterill said there were no plans to recall Great Wall’s other ute, the SA220.

tufLTD · 27-12-2009, 05:05 PM

I'll bet this isn't the last recall on these POS.

**Full Noise** · 27-12-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tufLTD

I'll bet this isn't the last recall on these POS.

You Australians always complain. You fat people, that why seat belt no work. Our Great Wall is best wall and our cars are best cars. We all skinny people over here and we have no ploblem here with seat belts, most no even wear them.

You think I say solly, but I don’t. If you didn’t buy our fantastic car, no one would know about ploblem, you just make trouble.

We have way of dealing with trouble maker.

snappy · 27-12-2009, 06:03 PM

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. You Australians always complain. You fat people, that why seat belt no work. Our Great Wall is best wall and our cars are best cars. We all skinny people over here and we have no ploblem here with seat belts, most no even wear them.

You think I say solly, but I don’t. If you didn’t buy our fantastic car, no one would know about ploblem, you just make trouble.

We have way of dealing with trouble maker.

Ryan · 27-12-2009, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Full Noise

You Australians always complain. You fat people, that why seat belt no work. Our Great Wall is best wall and our cars are best cars. We all skinny people over here and we have no ploblem here with seat belts, most no even wear them.

You think I say solly, but I don’t. If you didn’t buy our fantastic car, no one would know about ploblem, you just make trouble.

We have way of dealing with trouble maker.

That had me in stitches. lol

TC200six · 27-12-2009, 09:47 PM

Nice one Full Noise. One thing I don't get is why I'm already seeing Great Walls getting around.

: buy a second hand ute any day

dannyhilton · 18-01-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Full Noise

You Australians always complain. You fat people, that why seat belt no work. Our Great Wall is best wall and our cars are best cars. We all skinny people over here and we have no ploblem here with seat belts, most no even wear them.

You think I say solly, but I don’t. If you didn’t buy our fantastic car, no one would know about ploblem, you just make trouble.

We have way of dealing with trouble maker.

Best quote...EVER!

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atec77 · 31-05-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tufLTD

I'll bet this isn't the last recall on these POS.

I am sure it wonr be just like the major brands , Holden have quite a few but of course they get shoved under the carpet , Ford cetainly has , the thing is the GW will improve and in time just like the japs I expect it to set the mark in it's price range and somewhat above

vanman_75 · 27-12-2009, 05:42 PM

excellent post full noise ,but everyone knew this would happen china and quality are miles apart ....and no they shouldn't be on sale

atec77 · 31-05-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by vanman_75

excellent post full noise ,but everyone knew this would happen china and quality are miles apart ....and no they shouldn't be on sale

Once years ago we had "Gerry Built"then Jap Crap"now a new brand , give it a decade

XR6_190 · 27-12-2009, 06:00 PM

Suprise suprise, This was bound to happen, and there will be many more to come.

After all these Great Wall things really do suck.

Bobman · 27-12-2009, 06:05 PM

Haha, nice one, Full Noise.

Does anything manufactured that's good ever come out of that polluting country? Only an idiot would buy a Chinese made vehicle anyway.

**TUF_302** · 27-12-2009, 06:08 PM

Surprise surprise! NOT!!, how can they sell such utter crap here!!!

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S3SR · 27-12-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

Haha, nice one, Full Noise.

Does anything manufactured that's good ever come out of that polluting country? Only an idiot would buy a Chinese made vehicle anyway.

an idiot or a wiser man?

3 greatwalls for the price of 1 poverty pack hilux?
carry loads on a farm, just need clearance for a work vehicle why would you not?

yeah sure its got a poor crash rating, so does the barina..... so would our falcons if you hit a car at 100kph head on .... the greatwall man if he lives is still in front in the pocket...... and still has 2 more cars at home, youve got some crappy hertz rental car for weeks until they fix it

and yes your computer screen and keyboard probably made in china or indonesia or maylasia or korea or the phillippines, unless you paid alot it wasnt made in australia or japan!

as much as these chinese cars are built to a price NOT a standard....... YOU asked for it....... YES YOU DID........ hence why they are here........ supply and demand, dont want your fuel guzzling falcon or commodore or japanese hilux costs too much, china answered your call..... and you still complain

well the way i put it, its natural selection, i wont buy one, but im damn happy with the build quality of the thailand built cars over the australians....... maybe we spend too much time worrying about pay and fair work conditions.....

flame suit off, i welcome all criticism

Road_Warrior · 27-12-2009, 06:23 PM

Many protection from the crashings.

Bobman · 27-12-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by S3SR

an idiot or a wiser man?

3 greatwalls for the price of 1 poverty pack hilux?
carry loads on a farm, just need clearance for a work vehicle why would you not?

The best electronics come out of Japan and Germany, not China and are not that expensive.

As for being wise. I was a mechanic at Kia for a few years (Korean garbage) and the warranty claims we used to get were just ridiculous and very serious for what were brand new cars (Carnival, Pregio, Sorrento, etc). Working at Ford, sure there were warranty claims, but nothing like the Kias.

I'd rather have a car that will last the distance and is a proven product - like a Falcon Ute that you can get on LPG, so no gas guzzler there over junk that is not suited to our conditions.

Good luck seeing these utes on the farm for work; they'll be sitting there after breaking down and left alone!

pertuan · 27-12-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

The best electronics come out of Japan and Germany, not China and are not that expensive.

I have to disagree with you slightly here. The whole product (DVD player, TV etc) comes from Japan and Germany. However, the internal electronics were probably mostly made in China. There are a heck of a load of DSPs, ASICs and other circuitry that's made in China then sent to high-end assemblers (Philips/Denon/Onkyo/Sony etc) for them to use.

lostdude · 18-01-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobman

Haha, nice one, Full Noise.

Does anything manufactured that's good ever come out of that polluting country? Only an idiot would buy a Chinese made vehicle anyway.

you better open up that pc your posting on and have a look inside.

what do you mean by that polluting country? case of the kettle calling the pot black?

http://www.theage.com.au/environment...0910-fjdt.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ear...-revealed.html

S3SR · 27-12-2009, 06:07 PM

didnt the VE have dramas with the seat belts?

don't manufacturers buy seat belt and similar mechanisms from other suppliers?

Smoke Pursuit · 27-12-2009, 06:08 PM

I cant wait to see them in 4 - 5 years time... Remember the TATA utes.. They were literally tata after a few years!

Btw this things based on the old model Rodeo... same sheet metal and all so it started off life pretty bad in the first place!! :P

ChemicalHorizon · 29-12-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

I cant wait to see them in 4 - 5 years time... Remember the TATA utes.. They were literally tata after a few years!

Btw this things based on the old model Rodeo... same sheet metal and all so it started off life pretty bad in the first place!! :P

Just remember, bits of the australian boss v8 are made by Tata in India

along with millions of other things which are made by the MEGA company.

aussie muscle · 31-05-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

I cant wait to see them in 4 - 5 years time... Remember the TATA utes.. They were literally tata after a few years!

Btw this things based on the old model Rodeo... same sheet metal and all so it started off life pretty bad in the first place!! :P

yes, but they are so cheap you could buy one every year.

I remember The Simpsons where homer buys a tin of PLankton
Lisa: "according to the 'mexican food board', this expired 2 years ago"
Homer (choking): "yes, but.. it's.. so.. cheap!"

Iggypoppin' · 27-12-2009, 06:29 PM

as a basic cheap work hack, im sure a great wall would be fine. but hey, when it comes to my cars, i try to buy australian from now on in.

fangq · 31-05-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

as a basic cheap work hack, im sure a great wall would be fine. but hey, when it comes to my cars, i try to buy australian from now on in.

I'm philosophically against car companies putting out " beta" versions of vehicles vis a vis safety in the Australian market . If the Great Wall company wants to get up to speed with quality and safety issues, use the great unwashed in their own country as crash test dummies; fill up their own hospitals until they get it right.
Steve

Addz08 · 27-12-2009, 06:50 PM

get what ya pay for I suppose....

Chopped · 27-12-2009, 08:07 PM

All bow to Full Noise - That's an awesome post/ the best in a long time

S3SR · 27-12-2009, 10:16 PM

Bobman - i know i just thought id add the other undefended side of the story..... i couldnt care to be honest, just greatful for slavelabour and wanted to start a debate but you got me!

just looking my Logitech G7 mouse was made in china....... best bit of kit ive bought for my computer...... now to find a wife! :P joking

Spanrz · 27-12-2009, 10:40 PM

Full noise, I love it..........
That's why some O/S car makers never make it to the export markets, because they believe there is no problem with them, the problem is with the O/S market.

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launched as the first Chinese vehicle on the Australian market in June.

However, he said the recall had been announced so the company could replace the mechanism on 115 cars, while a further 285 vehicles would be checked.

Is that what they have sold / manufactured? OMG!

Auslandau · 28-12-2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Spanrz

Full noise, I love it..........
That's why some O/S car makers never make it to the export markets, because they believe there is no problem with them, the problem is with the O/S market.

Yep ... just like Hyundai and Kia all those years ago.

What country has the capacity and determination to break onto the world market and be the largest manufacturer in the world .... if they are not the biggest already? This is just toe in the water stuff ....... things will kick along. Don't forget, these cars may be manufactured in China but there will be a lot of world backing behind them ...... they ain't just doing it on there own. They aren't that stupid.

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G6ET8U · 28-12-2009, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by auslandau

Yep ... just like Hyundai and Kia all those years ago.

What country has the capacity and determination to break onto the world market and be the largest manufacturer in the world .... if they are not the biggest already? This is just toe in the water stuff ....... things will kick along. Don't forget, these cars may be manufactured in China but there will be a lot of world backing behind them ...... they ain't just doing it on there own. They aren't that stupid.

It has taken Hi Undies over 20 years to get to where they are in Australia. Don't even talk about Kia.

China can buy all the companies that they want. It gives them data. It does not give them knowledge. It may also buy them market share but it DOES NOT buy them favour.