What really grinds my gears!

cdonny · 28-08-2012, 11:40 PM

Ya know what really grinds my gears!?
I was driving home tonight down Wellington Rd, nearing the Princes, had a grid at the traffic lights with an SS, he was giving me the 'look' saying 'come on mate, let's go'... I didn't and watched him fang off, same scenario happened at the next set of lights, again, I didn't give him anything. Pull up side by side at the third set of lights, and have a peek across to think what a ****** this bloke is... to my surprise and disgust, it was an unmarked cop car, no doubt the muppet would've pulled me over if I responded to his drag racing taunts.

What a low life coppa!

GRRRRRRRR!

TC200six · 28-08-2012, 11:46 PM

A cop provoking someone to offend hoping to find some extra revenue. If this is what these cops are up to, then it's a good reminder not to drag race anyone on a public road, especially if you don't know who they are.

xisled · 28-08-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TC200six

A cop provoking someone to offend hoping to find some extra revenue. If this is what these cops are up to, then it's a good reminder not to drag race anyone on a public road, especially if you don't know who they are.

They have done this for years lol

But good reminder

blackf6 · 29-08-2012, 12:37 AM

Just blow him away to the speed limit, nothing more.

gcg2503 · 29-08-2012, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by teak81

Just blow him away to the speed limit, nothing more.

Actually an offence

Excessive noise they ping you for

aussie muscle · 29-08-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by gcg2503

Actually an offence

Excessive noise they ping you for

or 'Furious driving'

xbxd351 · 29-08-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gcg2503

Actually an offence

Excessive noise they ping you for

Pretty sure they also have excessive acceleration under the "hoon" category.

Remember the days when you could go for a blast down the highway without the fear of seeing your car being loaded onto the back of a tilt tray on the six o'clock news?

2011G6E · 29-08-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by teak81

Just blow him away to the speed limit, nothing more.

Isn't that "furious acceleration" or "unnecessary something-or-other"...?

People used to joke that the sped limit is 60, but there's no rule saying how fast you're allowed to get there..well there is unfortunately...I know as I got a chat when on my old 750 triple Kawasaki when it was last on the road in the late nineties. Sitting at a red light, old girl was spluttering a bit as it hadn't had a good highway run for a while, light went green, gave it a big burst across the intersection up to sixty k's in first gear to clear the pipes...an hadn't noticed there was a cop car sitting beside me back at the intersection. Pulled me over, gave me a chat about excessive acceleration, let me go with a warning.
Not sure if he could have fined me or not, but I just said thanks, and went on my way...

ford71V8 · 29-08-2012, 12:38 AM

They get bored placing cameras downhill.

Ben73 · 29-08-2012, 01:26 AM

28th August. Probably just trying to meet his quoter For this month.
Who knows if that is actually something that happens.

Simple6 · 29-08-2012, 07:58 AM

I thought that was entrapment or something? Imagine if you had agreed to drag, then killed someone mid race before the other vehicle identified itself as a Police car. Forgive me, but I don't think it'd be a Police car.....I just can't see how they can do that without getting into hot water themselves.

Jim Goose · 29-08-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple6

I thought that was entrapment or something? Imagine if you had agreed to drag, then killed someone mid race before the other vehicle identified itself as a Police car. Forgive me, but I don't think it'd be a Police car.....I just can't see how they can do that without getting into hot water themselves.

I really dont know how many times it has to be said... there is no such thing as entrapment in australia.

Nikked · 29-08-2012, 08:03 AM

lol...entrapment.

Its been done for years...

Kable72 · 29-08-2012, 08:04 AM

Simple6 is correct. They are not allowed to provoke unlawful action and catch you out for it. That is dirty and cheap and the law (for once) recognizes this behavior. You may not get away scott free but the poor old copper would get a bit of a hounding from his boss and his bosses boss

Nikked · 29-08-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kable72

Simple6 is correct. They are not allowed to provoke unlawful action and catch you out for it. That is dirty and cheap and the law (for once) recognizes this behavior. You may not get away scott free but the poor old copper would get a bit of a hounding from his boss and his bosses boss

"But the police officier forced me to race!!!!"

Its as dumb as its sounds.

LTDHO · 29-08-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kable72

Simple6 is correct. They are not allowed to provoke unlawful action and catch you out for it. That is dirty and cheap and the law (for once) recognizes this behavior. You may not get away scott free but the poor old copper would get a bit of a hounding from his boss and his bosses boss

Nope, Simple6 is wrong. You are thinking American!

They can and do it here. It's up to you if you chose to race or not.

Kable72 · 29-08-2012, 08:13 AM

"But the cop provoked me to commit crime."

Police officers baiting civilians into commiting crime is illegal.

TheSneakiness · 29-08-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kable72

"But the cop provoked me to commit crime."

Police officers baiting civilians into commiting crime is illegal.

And guess what, if you're stupid enough to do so you deserve it.

Don't know how many times I read these type of threads in the 7 odd years I've been a member here, but there is no entrapment law in Australia.

Done, dusted.

Peter B - CV8 · 29-08-2012, 08:46 AM

Get the rego number & report the vehicle for "hooning". If enough people do this - someone will have a bit of explaining to do..

**GasoLane** · 30-08-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter B - CV8

Get the rego number & report the vehicle for "hooning". If enough people do this - someone will have a bit of explaining to do..

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Originally Posted by Simple6

I thought that was entrapment or something? Imagine if you had agreed to drag, then killed someone mid race before the other vehicle identified itself as a Police car. Forgive me, but I don't think it'd be a Police car.....I just can't see how they can do that without getting into hot water themselves.

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Originally Posted by Nikked

lol...entrapment.

Its been done for years...

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Originally Posted by Kable72

Simple6 is correct. They are not allowed to provoke unlawful action and catch you out for it. That is dirty and cheap and the law (for once) recognizes this behavior. You may not get away scott free but the poor old copper would get a bit of a hounding from his boss and his bosses boss

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Originally Posted by Kable72

"But the cop provoked me to commit crime."

Police officers baiting civilians into commiting crime is illegal.

As others have said "Entrapment" only happens on TV and in 'Murrica.

As for not being allowed to do it, read this......... If a Chief Inspector cant get off what hope has anybody else ?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1225948559778

Demogorgan · 31-08-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter B - CV8

Get the rego number & report the vehicle for "hooning". If enough people do this - someone will have a bit of explaining to do..

Trust me if enough people do, it doesn't look good for the hooning copper 'specially if he's not writing up enough tickets for all that hooning ;)

tweeked · 29-08-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

And guess what, if you're stupid enough to do so you deserve it.

Don't know how many times I read these type of threads in the 7 odd years I've been a member here, but there is no entrapment law in Australia.

Done, dusted.

Cool - so is it OK for them to shoot at you to see if you have a gun and will shoot back?

That sort of conduct by Police should have them suspended - if racing is so dangerous why would they try to get someone to do it?

Defend it all you like, it just destroys the police forces credibility.

TheSneakiness · 29-08-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tweeked

Cool - so is it OK for them to shoot at you to see if you have a gun and will shoot back?

That sort of conduct by Police should have them suspended - if racing is so dangerous why would they try to get someone to do it?

Defend it all you like, it just destroys the police forces credibility.

Bit over the top re: guns?

The police know your general "hoon" will have a go and its easy fines and defects based on a person's stupidity. In the time I've been driving I have never ever seen an officer try and bait someone into a traffic light drag race. So it makes me wonder what the driver was doing beforehand to draw the attention to themselves.

My AU ute I had was stupidly loud at 2000rpm upwards as some members here can attest to and I never was "baited" into trying to drag someone.

Me thinks there is more than one side to this story.

tweeked · 29-08-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Bit over the top re: guns?

The police know your general "hoon" will have a go and its easy fines and defects based on a person's stupidity. In the time I've been driving I have never ever seen an officer try and bait someone into a traffic light drag race. So it makes me wonder what the driver was doing beforehand to draw the attention to themselves.

My AU ute I had was stupidly loud at 2000rpm upwards as some members here can attest to and I never was "baited" into trying to drag someone.

Me thinks there is more than one side to this story.

Absolutely over the top. But where is the line?

Should they say inappropriate things to your girlfriend outside a nightclub to see if you retaliate in the fight against nightclub thuggery?

The line should be that Police should observe and police laws, not try change people's behavoir to break them. And I have been baited by a Golf on the M1 on the Gold Coast. Didn't pick it till they pulled someone over further up the road. And the only other side to that story was that I was sitting on cruise at 110 right on the limit. It happens.

LTDHO · 29-08-2012, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tweeked

Defend it all you like, it just destroys the police forces credibility.

Sorry, ya lost me..

LyleXR8 · 29-08-2012, 08:16 AM

Local hwp in Vic used to flash there high beams at you at night, give them a big burst back then they'd nail you for it

TC200six · 29-08-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LyleXR8

Local hwp in Vic used to flash there high beams at you at night, give them a big burst back then they'd nail you for it

I've seen the QLD Police do the same thing. I remember that time when a car coming towards me turned his high beams on, it was extremely bright and couldn't tell what kind of vehicle it was. Sure enough, it was a cop car.

MAD · 29-08-2012, 10:01 AM

In car personal video would be a nice touch to show the superiors.

Nikked · 29-08-2012, 10:08 AM

Lol...

"the police baited me"

You control the car, not the police. No court would find in favor of you, they would just laugh.

turbodewd · 29-08-2012, 10:41 AM

Talk about jumping to conclusions. Maybe the cop just wanted a brief squirt to the speed limit. Might be a revhead outside of business hrs, u never know.