The meaning of hooning

[Chrisosicko]

I was scrolling through my new feed just before and came across this news clipping which describes the meaning of hooning http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psaf820f60.jpg

So apparently slowly cruising is hooning now??

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by Chrisosicko

I was scrolling through my new feed just before and came across this news clipping which describes the meaning of hooning http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psaf820f60.jpg

So apparently slowly cruising is hooning now??

well what about cruising for charaties??? hows that hooning. god people are thick

[Chrisosicko]

Absolute load of bs. There was a commy cruise for charrity in adelaide last year and in they had defect stations set up pulling them all over

[flooded one]

Originally Posted by Chrisosicko

Absolute load of bs. There was a commy cruise for charrity in adelaide last year and in they had defect stations set up pulling them all over

that doesnt suprise me. while i dont mind the police doing their job and i have no problem keeping a car on the legal side. it does get abit annoying when police target enthuists that are trying too raise money for charity or pulling every car over that was at a car show etc. car lovers in general arent hoons. i find its the people who dont give a stuff about there car that are usally the hoons!!! anycar can hoon not just the hotted up ones etc.

[Falcman0o7]

Originally Posted by Chrisosicko

Absolute load of bs. There was a commy cruise for charrity in adelaide last year and in they had defect stations set up pulling them all over

I dought they even checked the cars they would have been disposing of the occupants drugs and weapons. Maybe even massive amounts of UNIT stickers.

[AWD Chaser]

Burnouts - When the rear tyres of a vehicle are spun until they heat and smoke

So if it doesnt smoke, its not a burnout?
So front wheel drive cars can't do burnouts?

[XRGhia]

Australian government has lost it.

[TheInterceptor]

Originally Posted by xrghiawagon

Australian government has lost it.

Never bloody had it..

Im rather happy to get the pitchforks out.

[WMD351]

Quite a few things they left of that list.
Having four people in the back seat.
Talking on mobile phones whilst driving.
Farting without first winding down a window, to name a few.

[2011G6E]

And people said, when Queensland talked proudly of it's new hoon legislation where for a first offence they take your car for three months, the second time within five years it's crushed, that "It'll only be for "serious" hoons like street racing and excessive speeding and dangerous driving...don't worry about being victimised as a hoon for doing something minor".

...Really....?

"Cruising...where groups of vehicles slowly drive around an area to exhibit their vehicles"...explain that one...

I don't care what people try and explain it away with...when push comes to shove, it is down to the policeman who pulls you over as to what "hooning" is defined as. If he thinks you've been hooning and need to be taught a lesson, you damn well will be.
I realised it was like this after talking to many serving and ex-police officers who all say that when you are sitting there at a radar trap and catch someone, if they challenge it in court, the officer will say something along the lines of "I looked up and saw the vehicle approaching me at what I estimated to be X kilometers per hour, which I then confirmed with the speed gun".
This cleverly means you are not questioning the accuracy of a piece of technology, you are questioning the judgement of a trained police officer, which a court will look dimly upon.

In another thread about the new hoon laws up here, I said that police will pick on a vehicle. I gave the example of being here for four years and never having been pulled over, my son getting a ticket in my very visible bright red Celica, and then within the next several weeks I was pulled over three times for "random licence checks", or "random vehicle and rego checks", etc. It wasn't the driver they cared about...it was the car, and they couldn't care less who was driving it. It was a prime example of the old "There's a done up car...let's pull him over to see if we can catch him on anything" while ignoring the stuttering rustbuckets clattering around the streets...

/rant...

[Ben73]

Pathetic.

The Centre for Accident Research and Road Safety Queensland has lost it. Along with anyone else who shares their views.

[Neale]

Funny I saw a bunch of cop cars slowly cruising around Mt Panorama before the start of the race with some other cars.

I suppose you could say the police were hooning around a public road for entertainment

What a load of BS.

For anyone wanting to send the Centre for Accident Research and Road Safety Queensland some feedback on their definition of hooning I'm sure they would love to hear from you seeing as they have set up a feedback form http://www.carrsq.qut.edu.au/aboutus/feedback.jsp


IMO I think Wikipedia has hit the nail on the head for a definition.

Anyone who engages in loutish, anti-social behaviours. In particular, it is used to refer to one who drives a car or boat in a manner which is anti-social by the standards of contemporary society, that is, fast, noisily or dangerously.

[greenfoam]

My father used the word hoon a lot in my childhood. He grew up in the 60's and to him going for a hoon just means going for a general spirited drive in your car. Nothing more than that and totally innocent. Pity the government has made a word that was part of our culture into a dirty word

[FGII-XR6]

as there is no definition of hooning just different opinions I see am appeal being upheld like in SA recently

[The Monty]

Originally Posted by au3xr6

as there is no definition of hooning just different opinions I see am appeal being upheld like in SA recently

Yes there is a definition of hooning, I posted in the thread regarding QLD's new legislation for all to see, but somehow, most people decided to skip the post and comtnue on whingeing about how there is no legislation that defines hooning.

In saying that, this is the MEDIA people, the thing that most of you whinge about for getting things wrong, which you are now looking at as Gospel. Dont rely on the newspaper, look at the legislation. Cruising does not for part of this legislation, UNLESS you were holding up traffic, going excessively slow (I think more then 20 under) etc, which are not defined as cruising as such, but offences that would occur individually.

Waiting for everyone to just ignore this post like my last one.....

[FGII-XR6]

sorry I didn't see it but I really only skip over stuff that only applies to other states as it has no impact on me. in nsw there is no true definition it is officers discression so open to appeal

Originally Posted by The Monty

Yes there is a definition of hooning, I posted in the thread regarding QLD's new legislation for all to see, but somehow, most people decided to skip the post and comtnue on whingeing about how there is no legislation that defines hooning.

In saying that, this is the MEDIA people, the thing that most of you whinge about for getting things wrong, which you are now looking at as Gospel. Dont rely on the newspaper, look at the legislation. Cruising does not for part of this legislation, UNLESS you were holding up traffic, going excessively slow (I think more then 20 under) etc, which are not defined as cruising as such, but offences that would occur individually.

Waiting for everyone to just ignore this post like my last one.....

[Franco Cozzo]

What a joke, casually cruising around to show off your car is now a hoon offence? What about all those charity cruises?

Maybe next revision for Victoria they can add in having an annoying 24/7 barking dog is now a hoon offence, as that rather annoys me at home with my neighbours.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

What a joke, casually cruising around to show off your car is now a hoon offence? What about all those charity cruises?.

it's concerning that you could be charged with hooning for going to fast or going to slow. If you read the bit above the list, it says it's about holding up traffic. a couple bogans have been driving everywhere at 15kph, which is the new way to middle finger the authorities ("you can't charge us because we're not speeding" kind of thing). yes, a few bad eggs making it worse for the rest of normal society.

[AndrewR_AUII]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

What a joke, casually cruising around to show off your car is now a hoon offence? What about all those charity cruises?

Maybe next revision for Victoria they can add in having an annoying 24/7 barking dog is now a hoon offence, as that rather annoys me at home with my neighbours.

Different thing from raising money for charity...
I would hope.

[mik]

the only fair definition of hooning i can think of is driving in an unsafe manner with anti social behavior, but i suppose if they can describe every possible infraction you could ever make on the planet earth in a motor car , that makes it easier to fill the treasury when they can book you 10,000 different ways from midnight,
actually it`s a wonder they have`nt included having the radio up too loud as hooning.

[Tysonv48]

Wtf crusing
Does this go for Vic as well

[flappist]

Guys, it is a beat up article in a left wing loony newspaper (Courier Mail) quoting a mob of car haters.

Just ignore it........

[chamb0]

Originally Posted by flappist

Guys, it is a beat up article in a left wing loony newspaper (Courier Mail) quoting a mob of car haters.

Just ignore it........

Courier Mail = News Limited tabloid = right wing loony newspaper.

[flooded one]

Is there a cruise too shut the courier mail up??? If so i'm in!!

[flappist]

Originally Posted by chamb0

Courier Mail = News Limited tabloid = right wing loony newspaper.

Ah that would explain why they always supported Bligh and now constantly attack Newman.........ummmm.......

[martinijosh]

Looks like its time to move to NZ where they don't frown upon car culture...

[graham7773]

Mik, hate to burst your bubble but you can be done in NSW for "music too loud". Their reasoning? You cannot hear emergency vehicles sirens, horns etc. I know this "not hearing" does happen as I saw a woman turn right in front of an ambulance as she had not heard it. Big hit. I can only assume she was at least partly blind as the ambulance lights were flashing too.

[mik]

dam looks like i`m stuffed even without the radio on, years sitting in a noisey truck i`m 3/4`s deaf anyways .....call me a hoon !

[grandpa_spec_F6]

My mate and I were "Cruising" to Harry's Diner one night and he got done for "excessively loud music"... just because he had his windows down and the cop could hear it... *sigh*

If you want to get an idea of the readership of said newspaper, have a look in the comments section of the articles... I swear to god my tax funds part of a centrelink check that goes towards a 'grass' fund, that in turn pays for an Internet connection thus enabling these 'shining beacons of society' to 'eloquently express' their 'well rounded' thoughts in an open forum.

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by grandpa_spec_F6

My mate and I were "Cruising" to Harry's Diner one night and he got done for "excessively loud music"... just because he had his windows down and the cop could hear it... *sigh*

I can't be bothered to try and look it up, but I do know that quite a few years back your car stereo was deemed "too loud" and you risked an excessive noise fine "if it could be clearly heard outside the car as it drove past".
Not sure if it was an actual offence, or just something that was a grey area being exploited by a cop having a bad day...

Cruising...I do remember trying to organise a permit to drive an unregistered vehicle to go on a huge toy run on christmas for the Salvos, where a simply massive number of motorbikes of all ages were going to go from one side of Bundy, up the main street, and out to Sugarland to hand in all the toys. I was told that a permit couldn't be granted for this purpose, and no real reason could be told why...the Transport Department gnome behind the counter just happily said they had turned down "numerous" applications from people to ride a classic old (unregistered) bike in this special event.
They also said, almost bouncing with excitement, that the police were going to be targetting this run and pulling over "as many old bikes as they can, because a lot of those old junkers are probably unroadworthy", and not to try riding without a permit...nice, especially when you consider they were talking about registered and road legal old bikes.
From guys I know who went on the run, yes, the cops were waiting outside Sugarland shopping center after the run was over and were pulling bikes over by the dozen...not your stereotypical Harley riders either, but anyone with anything old.