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View Poll Results: Buy a SC Jaguar XFR for $110K !! | |||
Where do I sign ? | 27 | 45.76% | |
FPV and Turbo Falcon vehicles are still the best alternative | 15 | 25.42% | |
I'd have to "suffer the torture" of belting an FPV and a Jaguar XFR before deciding | 17 | 28.81% | |
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11-09-2013, 01:10 PM | #1 | ||
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Okay settle down and get your blood pressure under control
This is purely a hypothetical but does show what is possible without protectionist import policies and LCT. Kiwi's can access parallel imported brand new Jaguar XFR's duty and LCT free for $125K Kiwi incl 15% GST = approx $110K Aussie. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-627124950.htm If you could buy a brand new Jaguar XFR for $110K with all the style and sophistication of the marque, would you bother with high power Ford / FPV vehicles ? Last edited by Rodge; 11-09-2013 at 01:22 PM. Reason: Add linked example of Jaguar XFR for sale in N.Z. |
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11-09-2013, 01:11 PM | #2 | ||
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I'd buy two.
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11-09-2013, 01:15 PM | #3 | ||
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11-09-2013, 01:20 PM | #4 | ||
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^^ See link added. Zero import duty, no sales tax, no LCT, just the exchange rate, shipping, transit insurance and GST and on-roads when it gets here.
Even cheaper if a Kiwi flys to the U.K. and does the work themselves. Beauty of an open market mate.... FPV GT-P by comparison is $97,000 incl On-roads, only $28,000 Kiwi Less Last edited by Rodge; 11-09-2013 at 01:29 PM. |
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11-09-2013, 01:27 PM | #5 | ||
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Is it purely the various duties and taxes here in Australia that make it a ridiculous proposition to parallel import?
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11-09-2013, 01:33 PM | #6 | ||
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No, my understanding is you guys are prohibited by law from parallel importing a model that's available through official distribution channels.
Of course all the Euro importers take maximum advantage of this policy. |
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11-09-2013, 03:28 PM | #7 | |||
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TE Cortina's (we called them Mk 4's in NZ) were locally assembled and resembled the British design (bumpers, interiors and engine sizes which were only 4 cyl 1.6L and 2.0L ). However if you wanted an Aussie 4.1 6 cyl model you could privately import one from Australia. Is that the same thing Rodge?
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11-09-2013, 01:35 PM | #8 | ||
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Sonofabi...
This needs looking into! |
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11-09-2013, 02:15 PM | #9 | ||
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yep sad maybe when ford and holden manufacturing in oz eventually go then this can become a possibility.
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11-09-2013, 02:31 PM | #10 | ||
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May I ask, does this only apply to brand new cars? Can you import a 2 year old car?
Also why a Jag??? Why not an AMG or an M car? Personally if the euro imports would cost in Australia anything near what they cost in the US/UK … I don’t think anyone in their right mind would ever even consider any locally made products (at their current pricing) … Welcome to Labour Protectionism The so called lucky country …
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12-09-2013, 03:29 PM | #12 | ||
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http://www.audi.co.nz/nz/brand/en/se...e_imports.html
http://nz.lifestyle.yahoo.com/autos/...ps-the-f-bomb/ Jaguar reducing their NZ-new pricing by 20%? |
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11-09-2013, 09:09 PM | #13 | |||
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If you are importing second hand vehicles in Australia you still have to pay GST and LCT. |
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11-09-2013, 02:50 PM | #14 | ||
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Yeah mate Kiwi's can import anything they like from the U.K. tariff free, any age you like.
Some examples currently on the market here on Trade Me with all the import work allready done converted to $A for relvance to this forum New XJ Jaguar LWB diesel $87K New Mercedes-benz E63AMG $130K New Mercedes-benz CLS63AMG $139K New Mercedes-Benz S350 diesel $87K The above are asking prices and are probably negotiable down by circa 10% after a proper haggle. These are all first registered in the U.K. to get around export rules but are for all intents and purposes brand new cars parallel imported to N.Z. and currently on the market here. I'm tempted by a new Jaguar XFR but yeah a new Mercedes-benz CLS63 AMG is a cool bit of kit too. Thre are some benifets to living in New Zealand |
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11-09-2013, 03:21 PM | #15 | |||
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If I could bring in a fully loaded 5 series without all the taxes and duties I'd do it.
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11-09-2013, 03:49 PM | #16 | ||
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Not sure mate but some years back, (not sure exactly when), import duties on Motor vehicles into N.Z. were completly abolished so its a completly open market here now.
Importing cars with stuff all miles on them from the U.K. due to their RHD configuration and the lower value of the U.K. Pound in the last couple of years has become big business for the parallel importers in N.Z. In most circumstances near cars exported from the U.K. can be exported zero rated for the 20% VAT in the U.K., effectivly meaning for example that a low mileage Jaguar XFR on one of the U.K. car websites that's advertised for 48,000 pounds can be exported for 40,000 pounds zero rated for Value Added Tax, (48,000 / 1.2). The equation if you do the work yourself becomes 40,000 pounds, less whatever you can negotiate it down by, say 37,000 pounds, plus independent inspection costs, or fly to the U.K. and inspect it yourself, transport charges to U.K. Port, export charges, shipping costs to N.Z., transit insurance, customs clearance and wharf charges in N.Z. plus 15% GST on the landed total cost, plus on-road costs. All up about $100K if you do all the work yourself or $110K incl a bloody good holiday in the U.K. while you inspect the vehicle or just haggle a deal with one of the parallel importers, (like the one listed in the first post of this thread) for about $110-115K. |
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11-09-2013, 03:50 PM | #17 | ||
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At $110k its not really a competitor for someone aiming at an FPV. Not in Australia in my opinion, but I could see how so in NZ. Your FPVs are expensive compared to here. GTs can be had for $65k for a demo and $68 brand new, add a bit on for GTPs. There is a lot of bargaining room if your serious and a genuine buyer. I paid $72k for my R-Spec. At $100k+ to spend on a car here only a few select few would see the FPV as a candidate, even with the ballistic performance. I work with these types of people daily.
However I nearly moved to NZ before buy the GT and the XFR would have been first cab of the rank for a test drive. At that price, for me FPV would be quite far down the list considering you can also get into a 2013 GT500 Mustang. You guys are spoilt for choice in that price range.
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11-09-2013, 03:53 PM | #18 | ||
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If it doesn't have electronic hand brake and park assist then what's the point? May aswell get a HSV
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11-09-2013, 03:57 PM | #19 | ||
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11-09-2013, 04:12 PM | #20 | ||
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Hey um, Rodge.....
Seeing as it's less than two hours away, and you like to do comparisons: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used...-637591806.htm I'm sure we'd all very much appreciate it They usually have ZL1's and GT500's, too. All LHD |
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11-09-2013, 04:14 PM | #21 | ||
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Thats a good deal at $110k, if I was in the market then Id get a XFR over a C63 no worries.
Can you imagine how sweet a GTE or G8E would be of the next Falcon. Damn you Ford, damn you to hell.
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11-09-2013, 04:22 PM | #22 | ||
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Are the vehicle covered by any factory warranty in NZ?
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11-09-2013, 06:08 PM | #23 | ||
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I read some time back, that they're still covered under factory warranty. If not, the one's I've seen have been offered with it.
*just checked. International warranty applies. How good's that? You can get 2012 C63's for 110-120k! Wonder how much it'd cost to change the speedo to kph? (I'm picky) |
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11-09-2013, 04:23 PM | #24 | ||
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hmmmm i'd be looking at a GT3 RS Porsche at those prices.
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11-09-2013, 09:11 PM | #25 | ||
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11-09-2013, 09:17 PM | #26 | ||
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Just saw an ad on tv for a jaguar f type,it was a convertible and i hate convertibles but this one was friggin sexy,i was shocked at how awesome it looked,if i had the money and you could get a hard top 2 door id take one over any of fpv or hsvs offerings.
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11-09-2013, 06:53 PM | #28 | ||
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Jaguar F type S/C V8 id prefer when they bring out the coupe
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11-09-2013, 08:25 PM | #29 | ||
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and in America its ; XFR
MSRP from $83,200* 510 hp 5.0 liter V8 supercharged 0-60 mph in 4.7 seconds3 23 mpg EPA Highway estimate† http://www.jaguarusa.com/models/xf/m...ng/#jaguar-xfr
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Not my cup of tea, but a very good deal nonetheless........looks a lot like a VE to me in this shot. Hasn't someone from Holden or HSV joined their design team.....i think I read that on here once before....... Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2 |
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