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Old 30-08-2015, 09:00 AM   #1
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Default If only Ford had ...

A thread to right the wrongs of the past.

Correct the engineering 'mis-designs'.

The corners they cut we wish they hadn't.

Suggestions for things Ford should have done ... but didn't.

Maybe some know of some designs that stayed on the drawing board, but might have been made a commercial success if they had gone into production.

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Doesn't have to be overly negative.

Be it a small part of a car, or a whole concept, have your say ...
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Old 30-08-2015, 09:08 AM   #2
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I'll start with a gripe.

If only Ford had extended their hood lining by lousy extra centimeter (past the edge and looped it back over the head lining shell) or two AND had used an adhesive that didn't melt the backing foam over time ... my head lining wouldn't be beginning to sag now!

Actually ... it was a problem that Ford must have known about because my EL Falcon and now my BF linings have both sagged.
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Old 30-08-2015, 10:01 AM   #3
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Built and sold a FG RTV. I believe it did make it to prototype stage
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I'll start with a gripe.

If only Ford had extended their hood lining by lousy extra centimeter (past the edge and looped it back over the head lining shell) or two AND had used an adhesive that didn't melt the backing foam over time ... my head lining wouldn't be beginning to sag now!

Actually ... it was a problem that Ford must have known about because my EL Falcon and now my BF linings have both sagged.
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To be fair, most cars in the tropics have the adhesive problem.
I recently had the hood lining in both my BF RTV and the Mitsubishi Verada replaced.
Now I notice the door lining in the Mitsi has come loose. My brother was an industrial chemist in the plastics field and he says it's to do with regulations regarding the types of adhesives used to comply with environmental issues.
Only cost $180 to get the BF ute done so not really a big problem.
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Old 30-08-2015, 10:40 AM   #5
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If only Ford had told the government to stick it and release the Phase 4 GTHO in 1972 anyway, I wonder what other cars would have proceeded it...
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Old 30-08-2015, 10:53 AM   #6
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If only Ford had built the BA Falcon onwards in LHD and exported it to the USA.
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Old 30-08-2015, 10:54 AM   #7
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Old 30-08-2015, 11:21 PM   #8
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If only Ford had built the BA Falcon onwards in LHD and exported it to the USA.


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If Ford did not stop the V8 in 1983....
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Old 13-09-2015, 01:31 PM   #10
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If Ford did not stop the V8 in 1983....
Yep...it was tough being the best selling company with no V8.
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Old 30-08-2015, 11:09 AM   #11
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No particular order:

1. Released the Territory diesel when originally planned under Geoff Polites product cycle.
2. Put the ZF six speed into all models of the Terry's when it appeared in Falcons to bring down the economy and kill main press negativity at the time.
3. Build a G8E.
4. Build a LPG Terry for 5 seater models (couldn't do so for 7 seaters without major rear body structure changes)
5. Engineer the SZ for the 3.0L V6 diesel as supplied to LR/Jag.
6. Complain far harder about the FTA with Thailand that killed Terry exports.
7. Push their greater level of "Australian-ess" and highlight far more what is the amount of international work they have done and will do.
8. Discard the company thought "if we build a great car that's enough for they will buy it" as proven when they actually had superior product but didn't back it up with superior marketing.
9. Import far greater range of Transit Custom , colours, options, (no auto thanks to Ford Europe) but no rhs sliding door, Crewvan model, etc...
10. Bring down RRP closer to real world transaction prices so that resale values are higher and don't rubbish brand image.
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Old 30-08-2015, 11:38 AM   #12
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Well considered post there Mr Smith ...
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Old 30-08-2015, 11:43 AM   #13
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If only Ford hadn't recalled XY GTHOs to fit quieter exhaust systems........

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Old 30-08-2015, 11:49 AM   #14
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Painted/treated inner sheet metal joins
Added adequate drainage holes in non stupid places
Not made water/mud trap areas in seams
Its embarrassing when e series, AU's, B series,and FG's all have some pretty big rust areas already. Both my AU's have been inland their whole life, and both have rust.
Marketed the I6T better
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Re designed the control blade irs.
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Old 30-08-2015, 12:55 PM   #16
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I think also Ford has been in a no-win in Australia because a majority of buyers here don't place any value on a well designed car. They go a lot by price, resale, perception, reputation of build quality, reliability etc. They don't think about the cheaper service and insurance costs and general greater practicality. For them a car is just to get from A to B, the steering wheel is a helm, not a precision instrument for sharp and pleasurable driving.

Admittedly Ford has not helped itself but I don't what it can do against such overwhelming attitudes.
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Old 30-08-2015, 01:13 PM   #17
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If only Ford hadn't made rust an optional extra to come to light 20 years later, especially in Mustangs.
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Not bothered with eco boost Falcon or eco LPi and instead pumped the development dollars into performance and luxury variants. Buyers who want economy or practicality have a lot better options than any Falcon, but there ain't too many desirable, capable, and affordable 4 door sporting sedans about.
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Old 30-08-2015, 02:29 PM   #19
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Not disposed of all the panel moulds/dies for X series fords. Would make for a cheap resto if Ford offered new parts at the original RRP of 30,40,50 years ago. But i guess there would not be as many new car sales today.
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If only they had brought back the 351 windsor to power the EB GT and all future Tickfords and left the 5.0 for the XR8 and base models.... Would of made a killer T series range
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If only Ford had....

not dropped the V8.
had better quality control on the EA, in particular the heads.
had gotten rid of dashboard park brake sooner.
had carried over AU IRS onto B and F series.
Not released the AU.
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If only Ford had....

not dropped the V8.
had better quality control on the EA, in particular the heads.
had gotten rid of dashboard park brake sooner.
had carried over AU IRS onto B and F series.
Not released the AU.
Could have the Au's IRS without the Au

If only ford had.....

Built Xr6, Xr6 turbo and xr8 wagons from EB onwards.
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not dropped the V8.
had better quality control on the EA, in particular the heads.
had gotten rid of dashboard park brake sooner.
had carried over AU IRS onto B and F series.
Not released the AU.
So if they didn't release the AU, how do they carry the IRS over to B and F series?
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So if they didn't release the AU, how do they carry the IRS over to B and F series?
Put the AU running gear into the BA shell. No need to use the ugly duckling model.
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IF only FORD advertise..now!!!! raided their world partS bin..updated the diesel, electric tailgate, electric passenger seat, electric side steps , bigger fuel tank etc etc ..on Territory. Falcon, electric passenger seat, folding wing mirrors, bigger fuel tank, fast glass, etc etc you only have too look at the Calais V to see what the G6E is missing and a G8E...lotsa parts in the world parts bin they could have used...
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Ford had put in a 342 stroker into the EL GT to make it a real competitor to the VS HSV GTS. Also made the T3 TE AND TS 50 the 35th anniversary GT AS they would have made the best GT of that era being a totally unique engine with big brakes and stand out body kit.
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If only Ford had cared.
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... not used the powershift :-(
... introduced a 5 yr warranty
... really dealt with customer complaints in a more proactive way.
... imported the smaller city cars to compete with other brands.
... offered the Econetic in an auto.
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Sold more cars
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...been Australian owned.

There would have been no US management trying to kill it for the last 25 years.
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