Australia nearly completely dependant on imported fuel...

[Trump]

This article is from early 2014, so I have no idea how it slipped under the radar:

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/...curity/5278572

Originally Posted by Andrew McClintock

Australia is the ninth largest energy producer in the world but would run out of petrol in just three weeks if imports were interrupted. A new report claims Australia's fuel supply is a national security issue and urges the government to save the oil refining industry

How is this not an issue of national importance???

[Interceptor]

"urges the government to save the oil refining industry".......

since when have the government given a toss about national security, nevermind any industry in Australia?

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Interceptor

"urges the government to save the oil refining industry".......

since when have the government given a toss about national security, nevermind any industry in Australia?

Hence why I quoted the paragraph I did.

[SSD-85]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

This article is from late 2014, so I have no idea how it slipped under the radar:

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/...curity/5278572

How is this not an issue of national importance???

Because;

- Its cheaper to buy fuel from super-refineries in Asia
- Govco likes to bend over for foreigners
- No one in Australia seems to care where something is made, and whatever detriment that holds, as long as it's cheap....

[383hq]

start of 2014 (from memory)
Perth metro ran out of diesel at most places - Missed a tanker (ship) delivery, (due to suspect quality?) and all diesel went north to the mines.
Apparently they provide much greater taxes then the average minion.

Doesn't take much.
Don't think Australia stockpiles fuel like the USA - Invading forces would laugh themselves silly at how easy it would be...

[Windsor220]

Only 3 years ago it was reported at 50% or less. Has it changed that much or are they counting the crude oil we import too?

[Dragoneletra]

Australians are cheap in a lot of ways. Many don't think about the big picture. Almost like drug users chasing the next hit. No planning or thoughts of the future. Products. Services. Open slather. Why should fuel be different. He'll the Darwin port just got leased to the Chinese for a pittance for 99 Years....our major port?!?

I am being Blunt as can be. No offence. It's something I've noticed as a business owner. And yes my heritage is part crim and land holder from way back when
Not that that means much these days. There are plenty of true blue aussies that may not be born here. But I digress.

[Pedro]

When oil was discovered in Bass Straight there was rejoicing in the streets for Australia would be self sufficient and fuel would be cheap for all to enjoy .... wrong.
The then Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser declared we should have parity and we were ****ed forever more.

[Dragoneletra]

Originally Posted by Pedro

When oil was discovered in Bass Straight there was rejoicing in the streets for Australia would be self sufficient and fuel would be cheap for all to enjoy .... wrong.
The then Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser declared we should have parity and we were ****ed forever more.

Kinda like the NT Be ok no the food bowel of Australia. .....dreaming.
Or wait
Melbourne in drought. Pump water from the NT to Melbourne. ..

[pottery beige]

union high cost labour ruined it lol

[kazawaki]

Originally Posted by Dragoneletra

Kinda like the NT Be ok no the food bowel of Australia. .....dreaming.
Or wait
Melbourne in drought. Pump water from the NT to Melbourne. ..

If the NT did ever get into being a food bowl that would be just dandy for the Chinese leased port.Why do you think the Chinese are buying up farms, its not an accident.

[Dragoneletra]

Originally Posted by kazawaki

If the NT did ever get into being a food bowl that would be just dandy for the Chinese leased port.Why do you think the Chinese are buying up farms, its not an accident.

I'm glad they put a stop to that monster station being bought. But that was just political vote buying I imagine

[Bill M]

It appears govts have abrogated their responsibilities for the nation concerning fuel supplies...

Doubts over Australia's fuel security as bureaucrats admit not knowing reserves

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...#ixzz4BFmiVVTr
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[Brazen]

Stuff em and go as self sufficient as you can. Utilise that big free fusion reactor in the sky to power your home and car.

[Dragoneletra]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Stuff em and go as self sufficient as you can. Utilise that big free fusion reactor in the sky to power your home and car.

Agree on solar for home and business for sure. I just installed solar bore and pressure pumps at my parents rural block. Gold.

[Highway star]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Stuff em and go as self sufficient as you can. Utilise that big free fusion reactor in the sky to power your home and car.

Just don't go driving around at night, or you could always hitch I suppose?

[drz250]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

This is the problem with all the Hippy NIMBYs. They don't want nasty factories, smelters, paper-mills, or refineries in Australia. Where they could be monitored, regulated, and well-managed. So instead we export the raw materials (in big stinky crud-burning chips) to Asia, where they can simply pump the effluent into the drinking water (or use it to grow food for export) and use the fatalities as landfill. Then we ship the finished product back in more stinking crud-burners.

Spot on as always.

Originally Posted by Highway star

Just don't go driving around at night, or you could always hitch I suppose?

There is this bizarre new technology you may not know about: batteries.

[kaniSS]

God help us if a war broke out. All you would need to do is target our imported fuel transport boats from Singapore. How the hell did we come to this situation?

[Bill M]

Originally Posted by kaniSS

God help us if a war broke out. All you would need to do is target our imported fuel transport boats from Singapore. How the hell did we come to this situation?

Read Spratley islands where one of the busiest shipping lanes are...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-13748349

[Trump]

It is disgusting that Bass Strait and the Northwest Shelf deposits could have Australia self sufficient, yet a large percentage of the product from WA is exported; to hell with the locals as it seems...

And to think I was once puzzled as to why people would be considering leaving the country...

[GO FURTHER]

I think this paragraph in the article is what people need to think about....

"In Sydney alone there are 25,000 truck trips a week that do our food supply.
If you turn that supply off, it's not a matter of having to import some product, your way of life stops. It's fundamental, it's like air."

[Trump]

Originally Posted by BAXRSIX

I think this paragraph in the article is what people need to think about....

"In Sydney alone there are 25,000 truck trips a week that do our food supply.
If you turn that supply off, it's not a matter of having to import some product, your way of life stops. It's fundamental, it's like air."

The "people" can think about it all they want. If those that claim they represent us are unable or unwilling to do anything about it, we're screwed no matter how much thought is put into the matter.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

It is disgusting that Bass Strait and the Northwest Shelf deposits could have Australia self sufficient, yet a large percentage of the product from WA is exported; to hell with the locals as it seems...

And to think I was once puzzled as to why people would be considering leaving the country...

This is the problem with all the Hippy NIMBYs. They don't want nasty factories, smelters, paper-mills, or refineries in Australia. Where they could be monitored, regulated, and well-managed. So instead we export the raw materials (in big stinky crud-burning chips) to Asia, where they can simply pump the effluent into the drinking water (or use it to grow food for export) and use the fatalities as landfill. Then we ship the finished product back in more stinking crud-burners.

[mik]

i dont think many of our leaders think more than a few weeks ahead.

And because of that fact , the lucky country is lucky for a lot less people these days.

[TheInterceptor]

Sure is the lucky country...lucky as we haven't had a major event yet to stop the inbound freight we require to survive.

[fps_grandma]

Originally Posted by Loud_Noises

This article is from early 2014, so I have no idea how it slipped under the radar:

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/...curity/5278572

How is this not an issue of national importance???

Time to tune our cars for E85?
Or follow Brazil's lead to go all out E100 even though it's been declining lately?

Apparently E10 is tainted with the blood of demons according to the pleb general motoring public.

Originally Posted by Dragoneletra

Agree on solar for home and business for sure. I just installed solar bore and pressure pumps at my parents rural block. Gold.

Have you crunched the numbers on how long it takes to at least break even? Including potential maintenance and replacement?

I did stay on a self-sufficient remote property with:
- Fireplace is used to heat water, toast or cook
- Cooking is also done on portable gas stoves
- All electricity comes from numerous solar panels
- All water comes from a rainwater tank
- Wastewater goes to a separate septic tank
- A hut for the tools and cars
- Veggie patch and chickens

Theoretically great especially if you are an elderly couple but I'm not of a vintage age yet and the circuit breaker kept tripping.

N.B. Cops in the past have raided the neighbours for weed in case anyone has been wondering.

Originally Posted by Brazen

Stuff em and go as self sufficient as you can. Utilise that big free fusion reactor in the sky to power your home and car.

I just wish that the efficiency of solar-to-electrical energy conversion is greater than 20% last time I checked.
In the meantime I'll stick to a Turbo 6 petrol.

[Dragoneletra]

Originally Posted by fps_grandma

Have you crunched the numbers on how long it takes to at least break even? Including potential maintenance and replacement?

I did stay on a self-sufficient remote property with:
- Fireplace is used to heat water, toast or cook
- Cooking is also done on portable gas stoves
- All electricity comes from numerous solar panels
- All water comes from a rainwater tank
- Wastewater goes to a separate septic tank
- A hut for the tools and cars
- Veggie patch and chickens

Theoretically great especially if you are an elderly couple but I'm not of a vintage age yet and the circuit breaker kept tripping.

N.B. Cops in the past have raided the neighbours for weed in case anyone has been wondering.



I just wish that the efficiency of solar-to-electrical energy conversion is greater than 20% last time I checked.
In the meantime I'll stick to a Turbo 6 petrol.

I did mate. I got everything at my trade price and the old folks convinced me to do it for nothing.
Hah.

[aussie muscle]

Originally Posted by fps_grandma

I did stay on a self-sufficient remote property with:
- Cooking is also done on portable gas stoves

where does the gas come from?

there's a difference between self-sufficient and 'off the grid'.

I lived in a place that had the fire to heat the water. it's a ***** having the fire go on a hot day just so you can have a non-freezing shower.

[Crazy Dazz]

Yet ANOTHER reason to convert to LPG.

[Trump]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Yet ANOTHER reason to convert to LPG.

That's the kicker, LPG is essentially a by-product of oil refining. Once the refineries all close up, where's the LPG going to come from...?