6*9inch speakers mount

henz79 · 28-08-2005, 06:27 AM

Hi guys, Im mounting new 6*9 onn my rear shelf but theres only a small hole there. Whats the best way to cut out the 6*9 hole. Any ideas will be good otherwise i will stick with my original plan, use the "CHAINSAW"

THANKS BOYS

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Panda · 28-08-2005, 07:01 AM

If you modify your parcel shelf the car will be unroadworthy.

Easiest way is to buy some spacers from Autobarn / Supercheap etc which will lift the speakers up, then only the magnets will drop down through the hole.

Panda

xespac · 28-08-2005, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Panda

If you modify your parcel shelf the car will be unroadworthy.
Panda

(assuming you mean the actual metal?) My bros car got his parcel shelf buchered like hell, spiked sharp as a knife(spike towards floor of boot) an the sales yard got a roadworthy for it as well as ultra lows suspension. safe to say the sales yard can get done? =)

pepsimax · 28-08-2005, 11:54 AM

what he said

LTDHO · 28-08-2005, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by henz79

Hi guys, Im mounting new 6*9 onn my rear shelf but theres only a small hole there. Whats the best way to cut out the 6*9 hole. Any ideas will be good otherwise i will stick with my original plan, use the "CHAINSAW"

THANKS BOYS

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What ever you do, don't fit 6x9's! They are a waste of money and impractical.

pepsimax · 28-08-2005, 04:25 PM

no there not,,what a load of cobblers,,there perfectly ok and work well,,i've never had any problems with them and they sound good..

BLKPHN · 28-08-2005, 04:43 PM

the 6x9s are great it gives you decent bass without haveing to lug a massive sub box and amp around. alll u have to do make a fake parcel shelf with a piece of MDF and mount the 6x9s to that you can use the stock carpet over the MDF it easy.

CruizinEB · 28-08-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ebmanul

the 6x9s are great it gives you decent bass without haveing to lug a massive sub box and amp around. alll u have to do make a fake parcel shelf with a piece of MDF and mount the 6x9s to that you can use the stock carpet over the MDF it easy.

i just uesd them black boxes

InitialD · 28-08-2005, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CRUIZIN EB

i just uesd them black boxes

Those black 6x9 risers are crap. Ive got some lying in my garage as they provide no bass and look terrible. Ill probly throw them out.

Ive got 6x9's in my ea, i just made up some MDF spacers and fitted them under the parcel shelf carpet. I had to take some of the 6x9 holes out aswell but ive never had problems with RWC issues

LTDHO · 28-08-2005, 06:13 PM

:hihi: 6x9's giving bass. Ha ha ha.

Never heard that before.

They sound OK, but are don't serve a purpose. To run them effieciantly you need an amp, if you run an amp you might as well run a sub. If you run a sub you don't need 6x9's.

CruizinEB · 28-08-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

:hihi: 6x9's giving bass. Ha ha ha.

Never heard that before.

They sound OK, but are don't serve a purpose. To run them effieciantly you need an amp, if you run an amp you might as well run a sub. If you run a sub you don't need 6x9's.

There beter then the 6 insh, and with the boxes there aimed right at you and not at the window

**Polyal** · 28-08-2005, 06:53 PM

well my car has the parcel shelf "modified"...guy got a roadworthy for it (i must find out his name if I sell my car..lol)

If you dont want a sub then 6x9's are awesome...mine suit my needs perfectly. im not wasting money on audio....

all speaker spacers ive seen look very ghey

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CruizinEB · 28-08-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

well my car has the parcel shelf "modified"...guy got a roadworthy for it (i must find out his name if I sell my car..lol)

If you dont want a sub then 6x9's are awesome...mine suit my needs perfectly. im not wasting money on audio....

that right, you dont whant to have insurance for the car and contence

The Mighty Red · 28-08-2005, 07:20 PM

If you dont want a sub go 7x10's now these are awesome .
DLS R1070 - 2-way coaxial 7" x 10"
http://www.dls.se/images/highres/1070_F.jpg

REFERENCE series R1070 is a 7" x 10" 2-way coaxial speaker with a 25 mm tiltable silk dome tweeter. Can be installed in the same mounting hole as a 6 x 9" speaker. separate filter box with only high class components. selectable tweeter level. Grilles are included. Best in test in the Brittish magazine Fast Car 2000. Was awarded with gold in the brittish magazine In Car as best 6 x 9" speaker in the Brittish market.

I have these with a big amp no sub and they are dynamite. Unless you want serious Dush Dush Sh*t these have tonnes of BASS

mrngo · 28-08-2005, 07:26 PM

I just got 6x9's a few days ago. If youve got three lap sash seatbelts then you can;t use spacers. The seatbelt retractor gets in the way.

Yes its true that if you modify the parcel shelf (metal bit) your car will become unreadworthy.

I actually had a fake parcel shelf made underneathe the actual metal piece so that the speakers can be held in. Its about the only way to get them in with minimal modification. Remember this only applies if you have 3 lap sash seatbelts.

If your going to get an amp you might as well get a sub. Which would mean that 6x9's are a waste of money. Get some good quality 6 inches and just run them on high pass through the amp. 6 x9 are no better than 6 inch speakers if your running on high pass. (means no bass coz the subs gonna do all the bass work for you.

BoZZa17 · 28-08-2005, 10:40 PM

just cut the shelf =P
if u have trouble getting a roady just go round to a few different joints
use a jigsaw and cut the holes man!
i cant stand the look of the 6x9 spacers from autobarn/supercheap

CruizinEB · 28-08-2005, 11:59 PM

but that means the sound just hit the rear window.

InitialD · 29-08-2005, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CRUIZIN EB

but that means the sound just hit the rear window.

You can angle mdf, thats what a sanders for ;)

Id rather have some sort of bass/midrange with them mounted flat in the parcel shelf then in a angled (that points at the roof anyway) plastic riser that just makes them glorified tweeters

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CruizinEB · 29-08-2005, 12:05 AM

Ok, i prefere the way i have got it ,in boxes, i think it makes the sound clearer

Inferno · 29-08-2005, 12:19 AM

Personally I think raised speakers make the back of the car look ugly.

Which is why I got a sub, only problem with the sub is the boot rattle.

You can't win, unless you pad the carp out of your boot

LTDHO · 29-08-2005, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Glock

Personally I think raised speakers make the back of the car look ugly.

Which is why I got a sub, only problem with the sub is the boot rattle.

You can't win, unless you pad the carp out of your boot

I see them when behind and some cars look as though they have stolen speakers from the house!!

If you run 6x9's of the HU they draw more power than the Hu can usually supply and this causes distorsion and you loose clarity. I still do not see any reason why anyone would fit them.
I have 2 sets of 6x9's and 1 set of 7x10 sitting in my shed. They are good for magnets and that's about it.

The Mighty Red · 29-08-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

I see them when behind and some cars look as though they have stolen speakers from the house!!

If you run 6x9's of the HU they draw more power than the Hu can usually supply and this causes distorsion and you loose clarity. I still do not see any reason why anyone would fit them.
I have 2 sets of 6x9's and 1 set of 7x10 sitting in my shed. They are good for magnets and that's about it.

The DLS 7x10's i spoke about in my previous thread are very high quality speakers , they retail for $700 a pair and if you think they are only good for magnets then 1, you have never heard them through a high quality system or 2, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

They are an excellent alternative to not having a sub with great BASS.

LTDHO · 29-08-2005, 08:12 PM

:evil_laug

That's right out all the car audio I'm yet to hear 6x9 or 7x10 keep up with subs. So I guess I have no idea.

I'll eagerly await anyone to show me a set od 7x10's keep up. Anyone.

I guess you turn up the BASS on the HU 'to get more out of it' too.

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Damo · 29-08-2005, 12:52 AM

Most RW testers will pass hacked up parcel shelves. I know mine passed. :P

pepsimax · 29-08-2005, 09:45 AM

well my 6x9's make the louver rattle,,the old 6's never did.

pepsimax · 29-08-2005, 09:51 AM

well my 6x9's make the louver rattle,,the old 6's never did.

GenesiS · 29-08-2005, 04:18 PM

i found my solutuion lied an extremely good pair of 220w, 4 way 6" pioneer speakers... at the time they had the deepest 6" cone u could get, and they slotted rite into where the old 6's came out, followed that up by an amp and sub... the even better thing is everyone looks and wonders where the hell the noise is coming from when all they see is 6" speakers... probably cost u the same as a pair of 6x9's, dont need an amp, for the speakers, sub of course did, and puts most of my commo mates chapel st systems to shame! its loud as hell and still has potential! food for thought... anyways

Panda · 29-08-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

...they sound OK, but are don't serve a purpose...

Some people don't want to or simply can't install a sub. If this is the case, 6x9's are a pretty good compromise.

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

...To run them efficiently you need an amp, if you run an amp you might as well run a sub...

Depending on the head unit and the type of 6x9 purchased, they don't need an amplifier.

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Originally Posted by CRUIZIN EB

but that means the sound just hits the rear window.

The sound waves bounces off the rear window. Regardless, the rear speakers are usually for 'fill'. They don't do a lot of work.

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

If you run 6x9's of the HU they draw more power than the Hu can usually supply and this causes distorsion and you loose clarity.

WTF??

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Originally Posted by LDTHO

I still do not see any reason why anyone would fit them.

They suit some peoples needs.

Panda

The Mighty Red · 29-08-2005, 08:24 PM

I said unless you want serious dush dush cr*p then these speakers will give you all the QUALITY bass you need.
My home theater has a very good sub running it and I would not be without it but for the car i personally do not need a F**kin great sub takin up space.
Then again I suppose if i was 18 I guess i would.

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bindi · 30-08-2005, 07:15 AM

Ok my two cents' worth.

Firstly, if ppl prefer 6x9s over subs then they are entitled to their opinion, LTDHO, therefore they DO serve a purpose. I had my system set up with 6.5 JBLs and then I switched to 6x9 Sonys and I can tell you that I prefer the 6x9s. Also they both were running with the sub. I can get more definition out of the the sonys.

Secondly, you don't necessarily need an amp! Some head units have enough for the average user (not everyone is into performance audio nor do they have neverending pockets) and they are quite happy with "good enough" sound. Not everyone wants to doof up and down the main drag, drawing attention to the little peepee syndrome that seems to inhabit the bodies of boys turning into men.

Thirdly, spacers are FINE. Gees, you guys are so obsessed with how something LOOKS! Gimme a break, as a chick I would prefer you had spacers and a decent engine than a crap engine running like shyte and pretty ricer stuff that makes your dick shrink.

Fourthly, not everyone has space for subs. Some ppl on here have LPG tanks etc, and if they have kids, they need the space for things like prams/food shopping etc.

And finally, the sound coming from the parcel shelf may reflect off the rear windscreen but you forget that some of the sound is echoed in the boot space, hence giving you a nicer rounded sound. Sound can reflect off the windscreen and into the rear compartment too.

End of rant!