ED Fairmont Ghia With ED XR6 Cam + ECU

Grechie · 08-11-2005, 02:05 PM

hey i cant seem to find the thread anymore, but i was wondering, my mate got a ED fairmont ghia manual, hes got a ED XR6 ECU, and just today he got a EDXR6 cam, now i was reading in a thread that i found wen searching that it adds about 2-3rwkw or so ? is this true or even more?

niko · 08-11-2005, 04:48 PM

it will be smoother

ed xrs were about 161kw and ran flat/low 15's

MADED-6 · 08-11-2005, 05:07 PM

yeah xr's do run alot smoother through the rev range im the guy that grechie is talkin bout and i dont wanna hurt my fuel economy with a cam so i thought id try this cam so does it do anythin i havent felt anythin yet but then again it is wet

EFFalcon · 08-11-2005, 05:15 PM

ED XR6's did not run low 15's stock. mid 15's yes.

niko · 08-11-2005, 05:17 PM

ok sorry, forgot that they do low 15's with exhaust

neb · 08-11-2005, 05:20 PM

maybe when new but i think you'd be lucky to see stock ed xr6's or just with an exhaust run that quick now

niko · 08-11-2005, 05:21 PM

john after seeing articles on ea falcons dating 1988 i seen 1/4 time of almost flat 15.5 with a stok ea falcon s, t5, with 2:92 lsd so why wouldnt xr's run bit better than this stok considering better motor, and especially diff

was it gearbox and weight differences?

niko · 08-11-2005, 05:23 PM

neb look around on forums in sigs, i know this guy in adelaide i think it is, runs flat 15's stock with exhaust and no other mods

its dam scary...

EFFalcon · 08-11-2005, 05:24 PM

yes, the fastest recorded time for a stock EA S pack 5 speed 3.9MPFI was 15.5.
considering the EA had a shorter 1st gear and was lighter then the ED it somewhat overcomes the shorter diff and more powerful engine.
you'd expect very similar times for the ED XR considering the EA S was *the* performance variant.

MADED-6 · 08-11-2005, 05:53 PM

so will this make any difference to my car or not it doesnt really bother me if it doesnt coz i got it for free.

OED666 · 08-11-2005, 06:49 PM

stuff putting in an XR cam... get a regrind cam.... if your putting in a cam, you may as well put in something a little better...

I have a daily performance regrind cam from surecam in brisbane... my car is running 14.7, and 203.2 rwhp... i also have extractors, CAI, chip and its a manual though...

XRated · 08-11-2005, 08:07 PM

Someone told me that WADE said there were no differences in "XR cams" anyway??

EFFalcon · 08-11-2005, 08:12 PM

correct, wade told us all the eseries cams were the same (except those hybrid ones ofcourse) if they were different it'd pick them up when regrinding cams.

ford only state 4 degrees more duration, but still... get a regrind anyway :P

MADED-6 · 08-11-2005, 09:38 PM

i cant afford the petrol money that the cam will chew up so ill have to live with wat i got thanx anyway.

08-11-2005, 10:24 PM

get a wade 1004 114, there not that much of a fuel guzzler. good all round cam.

XR Martin · 09-11-2005, 01:59 AM

Didnt Wheels mag get a 15.2 out of an EBII XR6?

MADED-6 · 09-11-2005, 12:24 PM

my friend has a 1004 i dont no if its a 1004 and its worse than any car ive seen on fuel ill get a cam one day but for now on apprentice wages ill stick to pretty stock thanx anyway.

MADED-6 · 09-11-2005, 12:25 PM

i meant 1004 114

neb · 09-11-2005, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94EDGhia

i meant 1004 114

If you're talking about my brother's car it's actually a 1004 112. I've had both the 1004 112 and 1004 114. The 114 basically idled like stock, the 112 is a much lumpier idle (but it does still hold idle and seems acceptable even though most people that see the car will think theres something wrong with it - i had both an racv person and a tyre place say it shouldn't be idling like that even with an aftermarket cam lol). But if you really want to see a bad idle try out a wade 1521a with stock ecu... hehe

94EDxr6 · 09-11-2005, 03:07 PM

Im the guy who gave 94EDGhia the XR6 cam - when I went to wade today to pick up my 1636 they told me that there is like 2 degress difference and that the power the XR6s get is not from the cam. However it was still worth doing as there is a slight difference however NOTICABLE difference with the performance and gurgling exhaust note of 94EDGhia's car. Also he can now claim his car has a XR6 cam.

EFFalcon · 09-11-2005, 03:21 PM

my god its confusing seeing 2 people with almost the same name.
you guys need avatars ;)

MADED-6 · 09-11-2005, 06:45 PM

yeah thats right neb he's car is really heavy on petrol now isnt it i no he's driving doesnt help but still i cant afford not gettin atleast 550k out of a tank will the 1004 114 give me any good power results while still giving me fairly good fuel consumption.

neb · 09-11-2005, 07:05 PM

well he only really drives around here its all suburb driving and short trips so thats pretty bad for economy to start with. i don't really know what economy he gets but i don't think it's much worse than what he got stock. i know when i had both of those cams in i probably at the very most got 50km less a tank then i did when it was stock.

with the xr engine i have now, fuel economy actually improved after i put the dev5 cam in. with the stock xr cam i was getting 400ish. now i get anywhere between 400-500 depending on driving. usually around the 450ish mark.

550kms from a tank is really good economy, if you want power but keep your economy i'd reccomend maybe a dev3hl cam, or maybe just leave it alone :P

94EDxr6 · 09-11-2005, 10:44 PM

the reason im getting a cam now is because in five weaks im getting a straight multipoint gas research system so i want it in my car a ran in nicely before they tune the GRS to my car. I was getting 700k's a full tank but i was getting gready so i thought gas would be an investment

neb · 09-11-2005, 11:14 PM

ummm you're getting 700kms to a full tank... why even bother changing to gas when you're getting such good economy on petrol...

FairmontEL · 09-11-2005, 11:31 PM

hmm i have a 1004 112 and my car uses the same amounts of petrol it always has.. the only difference is when i got a cam i started flooring it more everywhere.

94EDxr6 · 10-11-2005, 02:04 AM

mainly because

94EDxr6 · 10-11-2005, 02:08 AM

mainly because it should have better economy on gas in regards to a car on gas (as it is on fuel). I was always thinking about getting some kind of LPG system in the future but I thought the sooner I get it the more i'll be saving. Also demand for LPG systems are increasing so prices will only go up for the instaltion of an LPG system. Its already an 8 - 10 week wait for most places (I think I only have a 5 week wait left)

niko · 10-11-2005, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94EDxr6

should have better economy on gas

just look at the petrol station billboards...lol

my car for instance used to drink more fuel than gas /100k's

still does, but it runs gas most of the time

in your case, with timing done, and a good tune on a dyno, you will have performance, economy, and good time.

MADED-6 · 10-11-2005, 02:58 PM

yeah i tried tellin him that i get that on fuel aswell so im very happy with my car but i want more power and i spose more power equals more fuel so ill have to get a cam if i want the power.