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Old 30-09-2006, 09:02 AM   #1
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Default September 2006 new car sales

Today is (obviously) the last day of the month. I along with many others are looking forward to next week when the September sales figures are released (either Wednesday or Thursday). It will be interesting to see because:

Holden - I am hearing conflicting stories about VE sales. I have not seen many on the road and I hear that they are not selling as well as expected. But other people claim to see several a day. I'd be surprised if they sold more then 6,500

Ford - A difficult month to predict. With the opposition releasing new models and the BFII 'just around the corner', I expect a poor month. Conversely the recent introduction of the government LPG rebate may increase Falcon sales. Approximately 4,000 is my guess.

Toyota - The new Camry seems to be selling like the proverbial hotcakes. I see them on a regular basis and wouldn't be surprised if they sold more then 4,000 (and pass the Falcon total).

Mitsubishi - nothing new for the 380 and they will now slip back from the spotlight as they are no longer the 'new kid on the block'. Will they pass the 1,000 mark? I think the 380 looks better now then 12 months ago as the poverty pack 380 ES would easily beat the poverty pack Omega in both acceleration and fuel economy. And the 380 is significantly cheaper.

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Old 30-09-2006, 09:07 AM   #2
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i have seen many VE's every day, a mixture of statesmans, SS(V) and Omegas.
Dunno about Ford.
Toyota, i see a new camry once every couple of days.
seeing more 380's.
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Old 30-09-2006, 09:20 AM   #3
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Personally, I agree with Falcon Freak... I have seen a sparse Qty of Omega's, nothing specced any higher, I have seen LOADS and LOADS of Camry's though. Will be an interesting month...
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Old 30-09-2006, 09:47 AM   #4
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Camry's are everywhere...I'm seeing at least 6+ per day, compared to only maybe 1 per day for the VE

I reckon a hard month for Ford, a poor month for Holden acheiveing below targets for the VE, and the surprise packet Camry to take the No. 2 position behind VE.

VE - 5800
Camry - 4800
Falcon - 3800
Corolla- 3700
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Old 30-09-2006, 05:34 PM   #5
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Personally I have only seen 1 camry. I have seen 10+ VE's but I have seen a lot of recently registered XR6's (I live in a city of 130k people). I think NZ may have a different trend this month. I suspect VE top, Falcon second, Corolla third, Camry also ran.
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Old 30-09-2006, 05:47 PM   #6
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I've noticed more Camry's on the road then VE's while the local Holden dealer seems to have had the same stock out front for a while now....just an observation. And I've heard Falcon LPG ads on the radio almost every hour and started to notice more BF's lately although unless you see the brake lights on or see them head-on it's difficult to pick them over a BA/BAMkII.
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Old 30-09-2006, 05:49 PM   #7
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I seen one omega and gee they are very very ugly.
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Old 30-09-2006, 06:38 PM   #8
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I live in S.E Melbourne and if your gonne see any car in Victoria ull see it in my area! The only VE Commo's ive seen are the ones at raffle stands at F/gate shopping center!I had ago at a lambo Murcielago this arvo, just for the fun of it! Guess what? I beat it off the mark! (didn't really). The VE Commo looks like a commodre cross astra, it is so bad! I haven't been a big fan of the BF Falcon as im a marketing student and I don't think the presentation looks as sporty as it should, but the pics of the BF Mk2 look as though they have kept the shape but made it look more modern and sporty! I will bet my marketing degree that Ford will experience a higher rise in percentage of sales than Holden!

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Seen a couple of VE SS on the road & one on the back of a flat bed truck on the way home from work on Thursday maybe it had broken down. Also seen a couple of VE Omega's in the carpark i park in.
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Any of you people on the inside receive any numbers today?

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This is speculation...speculation is worth nothing.

We need figures people!

Lack to provide any may ignite anarchy of biblical proportions!

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IT'S IN REVELATIONS PEOPLE!
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Seen quite a few Omega's, and 1 calais. Not a single SS or SV6. Seen lots of camry's and the average amount of Falcons.
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You're not a current affairs journo are you Falcon Freak? You start this thread about 5 days early every month, rev up a lot of wild speculation and then release figures that are wildly different from the speculation! (Just having a tease here!)

Are we sure some of those Camry sightings are not whitegoods delivery trucks with fridges and washing machines on the back?
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You're not a current affairs journo are you Falcon Freak? You start this thread about 5 days early every month, rev up a lot of wild speculation and then release figures that are wildly different from the speculation! (Just having a tease here!)
I like to prompt dialogue amongst the AFF members. :1syellow1 However I found out on the weekend that I need to be careful as the forum overlords don't like social subjects as they seem to be verboten.

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Speculation for the month

Falcon - 2900 units
Commodore - 5500 units
Camry - 4000 units
Corolla - 3500 units
380 - 900 units
Territory - 1650 units
Falcon Ute - 1300 units
Holden Ute - 1100 units
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I think falcon sales will be down, didnt they shut down for a week this month?
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Old 03-10-2006, 09:19 AM   #18
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Holden - I am hearing conflicting stories about VE sales. I have not seen many on the road and I hear that they are not selling as well as expected. But other people claim to see several a day. I'd be surprised if they sold more then 6,500
I've been up my folks place since last Thursday (housesitting), and I've lost count of how many VEs I've seen.

I live in Maroochydore, and I've seen maybe 1 VE on the road, my folks are up in Noosa, and I've seen between 10-20 VEs. A fair mixture too, Omegas, SV6s, SS, etc...

What I've also noticed up that way too is that lots of people are getting round in VZ Clubsports...
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I've been up my folks place since last Thursday (housesitting), and I've lost count of how many VEs I've seen.

I live in Maroochydore, and I've seen maybe 1 VE on the road, my folks are up in Noosa, and I've seen between 10-20 VEs. A fair mixture too, Omegas, SV6s, SS, etc...

What I've also noticed up that way too is that lots of people are getting round in VZ Clubsports...
Come to think of it, on my way up and back from the skid pan, I think I saw about 5 VE's north of Caboolture. Since its release, Ive only seen about 5 all up in Brisbane (2 at the Kedron Ford day).
Maybe the further up you go, the mare VE's there are?
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Any other makes available Ratt?
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Yeh i wonder whats the numbers for holden are.
In the end, thats a very good number of falcons considering the new competition... was expecting sub 3000.
Terri sales seem low, Focus and Fiesta should still be able get more
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Old 03-10-2006, 10:11 AM   #23
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VE's and Camry's are in plague proportions here already, so i expect a good month for Holden & Toyota. Iam also starting to see more BF's on the road.

The most depressing thing is that i have seen more Camry's on the road than Mitsu 380's already; depression considering that the 380 snots over the Camry is just about every respect
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Saw a VE GTS 307 parked on the street. Looks pretty nice in person. Then I saw an FPV F6 Typhoon... no contest win to the F6 (Looks... performance too tough haha).
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This is what i think when i seen anything about locally made car sales- "who buys them?" and "why bother when u can get an almost virgin BA/BF with 20 clicks for like 21k..."

Just hoping people don't loose too many jobs anytime soon.
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Fiesta 313
Focus 1308
Falcon 3563
Falcon Ute 1259
Territory 1418
Escape 281
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Focus 1308
Falcon 3563
Falcon Ute 1259
Territory 1418
Escape 281
Does that answer the question? :Reverend:
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One important thing I forgot to mention is that Falcon held its % market share at 3563 units. Which is a possitive sign that Falcon hasn't suffered with the first full month of VE sales.
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One important thing I forgot to mention is that Falcon held its % market share at 3563 units. Which is a possitive sign that Falcon hasn't suffered with the first full month of VE sales.
Those numbers are too low. Anything under 4,000 is not good for Falcon's long term viability as an indigenous model.

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Quick VFACTs Figures

Ford Fairlane 87
Ford Falcon 3,563
Ford Falcon Ute 1,259
Ford Fiesta 313
Ford Focus 1,308
Ford LTD 6
Ford Territory 1,418

Holden Adventra 187
Holden Astra 1,491
Holden Astra Convertible 61
Holden Barina 993
Holden Caprice 167
Holden Commodore 5,262
Holden Monaro 30
Holden Statesman 211
Holden Utility 4X2 787
Holden Utility 4X4 4
Holden Vectra 110
Holden Viva 1,221


Mitsubishi 380 963
Mitsubishi Colt 243
Mitsubishi Lancer 1,417
Mitsubishi Magna V6 9
Mitsubishi Outlander 345
Mitsubishi Pajero 375
Mitsubishi Triton 4X2 70
Mitsubishi Triton 4X4 657

Toyota Avensis 130
Toyota Camry (4 cyl) 2,845
Toyota Camry V6 247
Toyota Corolla 3,852
Toyota Hilux 4X2 1,339
Toyota Hilux 4X4 1,583
Toyota Kluger 314
Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC 598
Toyota Landcruiser Wagon 803
Toyota Prado 921
Toyota Prius 148
Toyota RAV4 1,207
Toyota Yaris 2,043
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