ACT - Expansion of mobile speed camera sites

[rag top]

Minister for Territory and Municipal Services, John Hargreaves, today
announced that Canberra's mobile speed camera sites will be expanded, with a
further 21 locations being added to existing sites.

"The expansion of the ACT traffic camera program reinforces the Stanhope
Government's commitment to encouraging and enforcing safe and responsible
driving," said Mr Hargreaves.

"Changes have been made to the Road Transport (Safety and Traffic
Management) Regulation 2000 to increase the number of declared mobile camera
sites from 99 to 120.

"The ACT Government will gradually widen the operation of its speed camera
vans to include more arterial, major collector and minor collector roads in
an effort to encourage motorists to slow down.

"Speed combined with driver inattention is one of the biggest killers of
drivers on Australian roads. The use of speed cameras has been shown to
positively modify the behaviour of speeding motorists. Camera locations in
the ACT are placed in areas where there has been a demonstrated history of
road crashes and speeding offences.

"There are approximately 650 arterial, major collector and minor collector
roads in that ACT, and in a staged process all of these roads will be
assessed and, if considered suitable for van placement, will be identified
as part of the mobile speed camera network," said Mr Hargreaves.

The location of all mobile camera sites can be viewed at
www.transport.act.gov.au

[Outbackjack]

I didn't know that the ACT had a problem with speeding? Or are they just getting low on money??

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

I didn't know that the ACT had a problem with speeding? Or are they just getting low on money??

Everyone speeds it's just harder to get caught because they are mostly mobile vans and there isn't many patrol cars. ;)

[MITCHAY]

100 - Isabella Drive - Between Drakeford Drive and Monaro Highway
101 - Ashley Drive - Between Johnson Drive and Erindale Drive

Dammit! That was good speeding real estate :(

[rag top]

List of locations from the ACT Govt web site:

1 - Adelaide Avenue- Hopetoun Circuit to Kent Street
2 - Antill Street- Northbourne Avenue to Federal Highway
3 - Athllon Drive- Hindmarsh Drive to Anketell Street (north) *
4 - Badimara Street- Namatjira Drive to Hindmarsh Drive #
5 - Barry Drive- Northbourne Avenue to Belconnen Way #
6 - Barton Highway- Federal Highway to Kuringa Drive #
7 - Belconnen Way- Barry Drive to Kingsford Smith Drive *
8 - Bowen Drive- Brisbane Avenue to Kings Avenue
9 - Chuculba Crescent- William Slim Drive to Baldwin Drive #
10 - Clive Steele Avenue- Ashley Drive to Isabella Drive #
11 - Coppins Crossing Road- Uriarra Road to William Hovell Drive
12 - Darwinia Terrace- Streeton Drive to Hindmarsh Drive #
13 - Drakeford Drive- Sulwood Drive to Isabella Drive *
14 - Dryandra Street- Fairfax Street to Archibald Street #
15 - Empire Circuit- Grey Street to Canberra Avenue #
16 - Erindale Drive- Sulwood Drive to Sternberg Crescent
17 - Florey Drive- Southern Cross Drive to Ginninderra Drive
18 - Ginninderra Drive- Ellenborough Street to Florey Drive *
19 - Gladstone Street- Barton Highway to Hall Street #
20 - Goyder Street- Dalrymple Street to Jerrabomberra Avenue #
21 - Gungahlin Drive- Wells Station Road to Gundaroo Drive
22 - Heysen Street- Streeton Drive to Devonport Street #
23 - Hindmarsh Drive- Melrose Drive to Canberra Avenue * 3
24 - Kerrigan Street- Ginninderra Drive to Tillyard Drive #
25 - Kingsford Smith Drive- Kuringa Drive to Spalding Street
26 - La Perouse Street- Furneaux Street to Mugga Way #
27 - Lady Denman Drive- Cotter Road to Barrenjoey Drive
28 - Launceston Street- Hindmarsh Drive to Melrose Drive #
29 - Learmonth Drive- Athllon Drive to Flagstaff Street #
30 - Livingston Avenue- Summerland Circuit to Sulwood Drive #
31 - Long Gully Road- Erindale Drive to Mugga Lane
32 - Longmore Crescent- Langdon Avenue to Langdon Avenue #
33 - Maribyrnong Avenue- Baldwin Drive to Baldwin Drive #
34 - Melrose Drive- Athllon Drive to Hindmarsh Drive
35 - Monaro Highway- Canberra Avenue to Isabella Drive
36 - Mugga Lane- Narrabundah Lane to Long Gully Road
37 - Mugga Way- Melbourne Avenue to Tamar Street #
38 - Namatjira Drive- Streeton Drive (north) to Sulwood Drive #
39 - Newman Morris Circuit- from Taverner Street loop #
40 - Northbourne Avenue- Barry Drive to Barton Highway *
41 - Novar Street- Brown Street to Dudley Street #
42 - Owen Dixon Drive- Kuringa Drive to William Slim Drive (excluding the
residential service road) #
43 - Parkes Way- Clunies Ross Street to Glenloch Interchange
44 - Petterd Street- Belconnen Way to Chewings Street #
45 - Phillip Avenue- Majura Avenue to Federal Highway #
46 - Pockett Avenue- Box Hill Avenue to Tharwa Drive #
47 - Springvale Drive- Belconnen Way to Coulter Drive #
48 - Taverner Street- Drakeford Drive to Erindale Drive #
49 - Tillyard Drive- Kuringa Drive to Ginninderra Drive #
50 - Tuggeranong Parkway- Lakeside Interchange to Sulwood Drive
51 - Williamson Street- Hindmarsh Drive to Blackwood Terrace #
52 - Yamba Drive- Mawson Drive to Beasley Street
53 - Erindale Drive - Between Long Gully Road and Sulwood Drive
54 - Erindale Drive - Between Soward Way and Judkins Street
55 - Kuringa Drive - Between Owen Dixon Drive and Barton Highway
56 - Launceston Street - Between Bowes Street and Furzer Street
57 - Monaro Highway - Between Johnson Drive and Isabella Drive
58 - Mugga Lane - Between Hindmarsh Drive and Narrabundah Lane
59 - Mugga Lane - Between Long Gully Road and Monaro Highway
60 - Parkes Way - Between Clunies Ross Street and Edinburgh Avenue
61 - Yamba Drive - Between Kitchener Street and Bateson Road
62 - Yarra Glen - Between Carruthers Street and Adelaide Avenue
63 - Canberra Ave - Between Mildura Street and Monaro Highway
64 - Canberra Ave - Between Harman Naval Station and Newcastle Street
65 - Kings Avenue - Between Bowen Drive and Parkes Way
66 - William Hovell Drive - Between Bindubi Street and Coulter Drive
67 - William Hovell Drive - Between Coulter Drive and Drake Brockman Drive
68 - Commonwealth Avenue - Between King Edward Terrace and London Circuit
69 - Gundaroo Drive - Between Burrowa Street and Gungahlin Drive
70 - Gundaroo Drive - Between Barton Highway and Nudurr Drive
71 - Bindubi Street - Between Banjalong Crescent and Cross Street
72 - Clift Crescent - Between Hemming Crescent and Rohan Street
73 - Cotter Road - Between Eucumbene Drive and Mount Stromlo Road
74 - Federal Highway - Between Antill Street and Majura Road
75 - Majura Road - Between Federal Highway and Fairbairn Avenue
76 - Ellenborough Street - Between Ginninderra Drive and Maribyrnong Avenue
77 - Northbourne Avenue - Between Barton Highway and Stirling Avenue
78 - Southern Cross Drive - Between Coulter Drive and Kingsford Smith Drive
79 - Southern Cross Drive - Between Kingsford Smith Drive and Spofforth
Street
80 - Sulwood Drive - Between Erindale Drive and Tuggeranong Parkway
81 - Coulter Drive - Between Belconnen Way and Lachlan Street
82 - Eastern Valley Way - Between Belconnen Way and College Street
83 - Haydon Drive - Between Belconnen Way and Ginninderra Drive
84 - Yamba Drive - Between Hindmarsh Drive and Wisdom Street

The further 21 additional sites for mobile speed camera operations effective
from 5 December 2006
85 - Jansz Crescent - Between La Perouse Street and Carnegie Crescent
86 - Nemarang Crescent - Between the north and south intersections with
Badimara Street
87 - Fairbairn Avenue - Between Anzac Parade and Pialligo Avenue
88 - Flinders Way - Between Mugga Way and Canberra Avenue
89 - Mawson Drive - Between Athllon Drive and Yamba Drive
90 - Stonehaven Crescent - Between Hopetoun Circuit and Strickland Crescent
91 - William Webb Drive - Between Ginninderra Drive and Owen Dixon Drive
92 - Ross Smith Crescent - Between Chewings Street and Southern Cross Drive
93 - Spofforth Street - Between Drake Brockman Drive and Southern Cross
Drive
94 - Ginninderra Drive - Between Florey Drive and Kerrigan Street
95 - Archdall Street - Between Ginninderra Drive and Osburn Drive
96 - Limestone Avenue - Between Ainslie Avenue and Wakefield Avenue
97 - Copland Drive - Between Ginninderra Drive and Owen Dixon Drive
98 - Anketell Street - Between the north and south intersections with
Athllon Drive
99 - Groom Street - Between Carruthers Street and Kent Street
100 - Isabella Drive - Between Drakeford Drive and Monaro Highway
101 - Ashley Drive - Between Johnson Drive and Erindale Drive
102 - Tharwa Drive - Between Drakeford Drive and Johnson Drive
103 - Tharwa Drive - Between Drakeford Drive and Knoke Avenue
104 - Horse Park Drive - Between Federal Highway and Katherine Avenue
105 - Kalgoorlie Crescent - Between the east and west intersections with
Badimara Street


Note - There are 120 mobile camera location codes in Schedule 1 of the
Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) Regulation 2000. There are
105 items in the list above, due to the combination of more than one
location code for items 3, 7, 13, 18, 23, 35, 40 and 50.

[rag top]

I'm waiting to see them deployed in the roadworks areas during the resealing of certain roads. I don't see too many doing the posted speed limit, most seem to do what the road is normally limited to.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by rag top

I'm waiting to see them deployed in the roadworks areas during the resealing of certain roads. I don't see too many doing the posted speed limit, most seem to do what the road is normally limited to.

That's because the limits are rediculous and most drivers know it. There is always exceptions to this though.

The one in Anketell Street should be rather interesting. That road is very wide even with cars parked on both sides.

I can't really see where they would park the van where it would be in a position that isn't obvious.

[rag top]

Have you sat in one of those vans?
They had one at a mustang show early this year, and they let you go in and move the camera around and take 'pictures' of cars on show. Unfortunately, I took a photo of a car in the distance, not realising some member of the opposite sex was bending over to look at the interior... needless to say, this was displayed on the screen for those close by to see... Detail those cameras can pick up is incredible...

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by rag top

Have you sat in one of those vans?
They had one at a mustang show early this year, and they let you go in and move the camera around and take 'pictures' of cars on show. Unfortunately, I took a photo of a car in the distance, not realising some member of the opposite sex was bending over to look at the interior... needless to say, this was displayed on the screen for those close by to see... Detail those cameras can pick up is incredible...

LMFAO! Yeah you really didn't mean too I know ;) Class mate!

[data_mine]

Sure you didn't realise.

Thing I like is the vans aren't bullet proof, or Mack truck resistant.

I wonder what those rangers (they aren't coppers) tell people they do. I wouldn't admit to being one of them.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by data_mine

Sure you didn't realise.

Thing I like is the vans aren't bullet proof, or Mack truck resistant.

I wonder what those rangers (they aren't coppers) tell people they do. I wouldn't admit to being one of them.

I have heard some of the ones working at night have guards with them. They would be so easy to destroy.

[rag top]

The operator I spoke to even snapped her own mother speeding. Once the photo is taken, they can do nothing about it.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by rag top

The operator I spoke to even snapped her own mother speeding. Once the photo is taken, they can do nothing about it.

Oh man that is gold! Like you wouldn't recognize your own mother. Dedicated to the cause that is for sure.

[rag top]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Oh man that is gold! Like you wouldn't recognize your own mother. Dedicated to the cause that is for sure.

Not really, she didn't have the guts to tell her mother that she took the pic.

[MITCHAY]

If you think that's dodgy you should see the double dipping on Northbourne Av. I saw a van, no less than 50m after a fixed speed camera.

A lot of street racers would of been done that night.

[Keepleft]

Automated speed enforcement, certainly in NSW over the last 11 years, has seen to reduced numbers of serving HWP, this in turn leads to a reduction in the number of infringements issued to non-speed offences.

The result is worse driver behaviour related to items such as indicating, lane discipline, attitute and what not.

Fines revenue is something that is 'predicted', in NSW via the AG's department.

I look at informational posts such as this and feel embarrassed that GovCo stoops 'typically' I guess, so low. Coppers on patrol, yes, but this sort of rubbish is pure BS and sadly expected.

It seems some of our 'experts' admit to have run out of ideas. Hopeless, really.

[Electric]

The ACT has successfully made the transformation from Road safety to Revenue raisers.

I spotted this on the Monaro highway the other day.

3 cowardly cops hiding behind a large road sign, pointing their little radar down the road, with their cop car hidden way off behind the bushes….road safety or revenue raising.

Also have you noticed how the speed signs on the revenue vans have shrunk? They used to be the same size if not bigger than the usual roadside ones, now they have these pathetic little ones about a 6th of that size.

So if you are not 100% certain of the speed as you approach the van, now you can’t tell until you are about 3m away.

Road safety or revenue generating?

.

[pennybrain]

Originally Posted by Electric

The ACT has successfully made the transformation from Road safety to Revenue raisers.

I spotted this on the Monaro highway the other day.

3 cowardly cops hiding behind a large road sign, pointing their little radar down the road, with their cop car hidden way off behind the bushes….road safety or revenue raising.

Also have you noticed how the speed signs on the revenue vans have shrunk? They used to be the same size if not bigger than the usual roadside ones, now they have these pathetic little ones about a 6th of that size.

So if you are not 100% certain of the speed as you approach the van, now you can’t tell until you are about 3m away.

Road safety or revenue generating?

.

That is very sneaky. Why do they need 3 coppers hiding behind the sign? Do they all have cameras?
What colour will the new vans be I wonder? Are they still going to be white or will they get dark colours so they blend into the background.
I suppose they probably have to have white vans for safety reasons. If they get dark colours and blend into the background people may not see them and drive right into them.

[GXL078]

i wish they would put one on the main road at the end of my street. Its so dangerous. A 70Kmh zone with everyone doing 90 and bus stops with no where for the busses to pull into they just take up one of the two lanes, dangerous as hell. And all the barricades from the dedicated bus lanes they are building mean you can't see around the corners! At least there will be traffic lights when its finished that will save a trip around the block, I will be able to turn right with safety, yay!

[data_mine]

people driving large trucks /front end loaders maybe?

I spotted a new location the other day too. Down Isabella drv. I drive by with 'the bird' saluting them. Do they honestly think they are helping people, or just filling the coffers.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by data_mine

people driving large trucks /front end loaders maybe?

I spotted a new location the other day too. Down Isabella drv. I drive by with 'the bird' saluting them. Do they honestly think they are helping people, or just filling the coffers.

Nooo not Isabella Drive too! Damn it they are on to me :

That road is good for 100km/h FFS!

[XRQTR]

Speed combined with driver inattention is one of the biggest killers of
drivers on Australian roads.

That's the funniest bit, as peoples attention is automatically taken away from the road when speed cameras are introduced like this, they are more likely to be looking at parked cars and there speedos rather than the road in front of them.

I think in another post their was some information on a study done in Vic in regard to the effect that speed cameras have had on accidents and the nunber was actually up. Proving that people are not concentrating on the roads and that speed is not the major cause of accidents rather the lack of concentration and attention to what is going on right in front of you.

And if you think the coroners report will make a difference think again, Herr Bracks was actually installing the new cameras in the weeks before the election, even though so many are so opposed they still voted him back.

What I;m waiting for is when they start to use your GPS locater to fine you, this was discussed in many magazines at around the time they were first being trialled for the public many years ago. The fear was that there would be no need for either police or cameras as the unit can measure your speed, the worst part is that even if you're overtaking you're still technically speeding. It would just send the info straight back and you would just get a letter in the mail, which if you think about it is not too dissimilar to the current way things are run lol.

1984 it seems was not so far from the truth after all.

[data_mine]

Most of the roads in Canberra are good for +40 what they are posted as. Dodgy gov't.

[jimmy_c]

This is becoming studpid really.

[Gimmers55]

The only reason why Canberra drivers speed is that there is no police presence and the speed vans are so infrequent and obvious that you would have to be a moron to be pinged. . . and thus deserve it. Speeding is just one thing that ACT drivers ignore. Driving while using a mobile is rampant. Coming home today (Fyshwick to Jerrabomberra) along the Monaro I saw one driver in Tennant Street with a phone stuck to his ear; another exiting Bunnings; three at the Newcastle St - Canberra Ave intersection (one on my left, one on my right and one in front); one on the on ramp to the Monaro from Hindmarsh; one in the RH lane (blocking traffic in the 100kph zone); and another turning left into Lanyon Drive. That's seven in the space of 15 minutes and 12 kms.

. . . and I don't know why anyone in the ACT should complain about 'low' speed limits. The most common limit is 80kph on the major arterials and ring roads- what's the problem. That's a luxury that Melbourne and Sydney drivers only dream about.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Gimmers55

. . . and I don't know why anyone in the ACT should complain about 'low' speed limits. The most common limit is 80kph on the major arterials and ring roads- what's the problem. That's a luxury that Melbourne and Sydney drivers only dream about.

Yeah it is better than what others have but seriously you can't tell me that the majority of our 80km/h roads aren't good for 100 easy.

As data_mine said the majority already does 20+ so it can obviously be done safely.

Civic is beyond a joke. 60km/h on a 3 lane road (Northbourne Av) _

[Gimmers55]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Civic is beyond a joke. 60km/h on a 3 lane road (Northbourne Av) _

But Civic has pedestrians, cars parked on the side of the road, lots of traffic lights and relatively heavy vehicle traffic. Speed limits are set to take into account more than just the number of lanes on the road.

Look at the number of people cleaned up on Northbourne over the last year. 80kph would be absurd in that area.

[data_mine]

The speed limits are obviously low if 'everyone' (there's the few exceptions that dangerously insist on doing the speed limit in the right hand lane) can do 20+ happily, and on the whole safely.

You are right on the lack of police presence, except on Friday night, where they're out to get everyone. One Friday night I got breathalysed three times, on a circuit of civic looking for a park. Now good on the coppers for being there (enforcing drink driving), but where are they on other days/nights and at other locations.

[data_mine]

People should be less stupid. Surely the vast majority of those incidents were because of someone jaywalking.

But really, no point arguing. Until the governments of Australia wake up to the fact that driver licensing is a joke, far to easy to attain. And start implementing tough licensing tests, compulsory driver training (not the here's how you 3-point turn and parallel park). Speed limits are going to keep dropping because of the general publics gross stupidity and lack of skills and the whole lack of responsibility that is becoming prevalent in Australia (we're closing following the US and it's NOT a good thing).

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