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Old 29-03-2007, 07:02 PM   #1
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Hey everyone, just wanna know if putting a vct engine in an au3 falcon without vct is a straight swap over other than the ecu.
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
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Old 29-03-2007, 07:04 PM   #2
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Requires some extra wiring as well.
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Old 29-03-2007, 07:46 PM   #3
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I reckon you'd be better off putting an HP XR6 engine in mate. VCT is harder to mod, there's not a lot of aftermarket upgrades, in the aftermarket boys "too hard basket".... But AFAIK it's just electrical, ECU and engine... Good luck mate!
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Old 29-03-2007, 07:58 PM   #4
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I reckon you'd be better off putting an HP XR6 engine in mate. VCT is harder to mod, there's not a lot of aftermarket upgrades, in the aftermarket boys "too hard basket".... But AFAIK it's just electrical, ECU and engine... Good luck mate!
That will stir some worms :Reverend: . If i were you and you could afford it id buy a fairmont ghia or an XR VCT ull end up with a much beter car in the end IMO
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Old 29-03-2007, 09:12 PM   #5
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I have always wondered this myself. I had the idea of just swapping the heads thought, putting vct onto my block. Would it be possible to edit the stock ecu to run the cam timing? I think it would be a pretty cool mod if it wasn't too hard to do.

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Old 30-03-2007, 06:19 AM   #6
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probably cheaper to do then the whole engine...so head, ecu and wiring? would that work or is the bottom end different to the standard 6?
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Old 30-03-2007, 07:09 AM   #7
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bottom end is identical
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Old 30-03-2007, 06:24 PM   #8
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What extra wiring has to go in? I would guess what ever it is that runs the vct component to go from the front of the motor to the ecu? If i can get a head at a cheap enough price then it would probably work out better than doing an after market cam. I am just dreaming of course, but i still maintain it would be cool!

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Old 31-03-2007, 09:33 AM   #9
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IF you can get a VCT engine cheap enough and they are about its easy. They will drop in.

Everything will work except for the VCT which will mean it will be like an XR^ with the cam retarded all the time. All the VCT does is advance the cam from 1000-3800rpm. you could build an rpm switch to do this or muck about forever with copying the vct wiring and finding a VCT ECU which is easy enough every fairlane faormnit ghia had one
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Old 31-03-2007, 12:04 PM   #10
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has anyone tried running a vct cam in a non vct head?

is the xr6 hp cam is a different profile to vct cam ?
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Old 31-03-2007, 03:04 PM   #11
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What sort of gains would be expected out of this conversion? Would it be the same as just putting a vernier gear on the standard cam? I believe that is used to change the cam timing?
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Yes the vct cam and XR6 cam are different.
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Old 31-03-2007, 05:53 PM   #13
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Seems like simplest option is to trade in and buy a car with VCT!
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Seems like simplest option is to trade in and buy a car with VCT!
Or a V8!! I think thats a better option!
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