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12-10-2006, 12:34 AM
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hey i don't know if anybody has heard this but it was on the radio tonight when i was at work. Apparently the reason Skaifey's clutch slipped so bad at the start of the 1000 was because he took off in third gear, not first! certain people have tried to contact HRT but they are all tight lipped about it. Only what i heard so......
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12-10-2006, 12:37 AM
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I've heard the same being said. It's possible.
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12-10-2006, 12:38 AM
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mmmm, as much as I want to believe that, I'd need to see some credible sources first.
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12-10-2006, 12:44 AM
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i was so shocked when skaife took off...when they were all lined up i was saying " stall skaife stall" and then when they took off bright just charged infront and skaife was being taken over by people everywhere lol i think i put a hex on him
 i really wish i was watching the race with a holden fan just to laugh at them.....i watched the whole thing from 7 to the end i couldnt get enough..it was the best bathurst i have seen in ages but sorry i am getting abit off topic but lately im starting to think skaife is abit overated or this year he has really had an unreliable car...it post great times but never has the stamina to be a real contender...except round 2 when he finished first....lowndes is doing great i think bathurst was his 4th win this year
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12-10-2006, 12:46 AM
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I heard he was just trying to sneak a boot full of Jack Daniels to the top of the mountain
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12-10-2006, 12:49 AM
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12-10-2006, 01:20 AM
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I douubt it. Skaife couldnt be ranked where he is and have the number of wins, poles and championships to his name if he was unable to tell the gate feeling difference of 1st to 3rd.
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12-10-2006, 01:46 AM
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No really, I think he's a control freak. |
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12-10-2006, 01:57 AM
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12-10-2006, 02:19 AM
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The bigpond in-car footage may have showed the driver display if this is true.....
Was anyone watching that (bigpond) or were we all glued to the telly?
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12-10-2006, 02:23 AM
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I fail to see how that makes him a good driver or not. Everyone makes mistakes. Ingall locking up the rears cos he didn't pump the brakes at Sandown in 2003?
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12-10-2006, 02:57 AM
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arent they all sequential boxes
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12-10-2006, 06:50 AM
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There would be quite a few people who have access to the telemetry, they can’t all keep it a secret. Does any one else have an answer to why the fastest car on the grid couldn’t get going? Let’s face it. How many other cars cooked their clutches that day at the start of the race?
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12-10-2006, 07:21 AM
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He only human. If you judge that as making him a poor driver, then what of lowndes huge crash back in 96 or whenever it was? They are top drivers, all of them, but they, like us, make mistakes.
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12-10-2006, 07:22 AM
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If he was in third ... surely the telemetry would have shown that ... and his pit crew would have given him a friendly reminder in his ear before the launch.
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12-10-2006, 07:47 AM
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if he did start in 3rd why wouldnt he put it back into 1st when it started to bog down
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12-10-2006, 07:54 AM
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You may want to watch the video again. He may have done just that, however, the damage was already done.
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12-10-2006, 08:27 AM
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I'll guessing he was in 3rd, and that put too much pressure on the clutch and stuffed it.
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12-10-2006, 08:31 AM
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Skaife = Top bloke
BUT Skaife = KNOB.
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12-10-2006, 08:32 AM
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Surely trying to take off in 3rd wouldn't really destroy a triple plate carbon clutch ... those things are near indestructable. Unless it was already faulty in the first place.
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12-10-2006, 08:34 AM
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It happens.
Anyone who has driven a manual has done it! Anyone who has done it with over 600HP, would have fried the clutch
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12-10-2006, 08:39 AM
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Either way, Skaifey IS a good driver, but in recent years has had some poor form. Hes a very agressive driver, which I think is because he gets frustrated by other people out there. Basically, he needs to ******* relax and take it easy out there.
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I've done it before once (in a hire car BMW Z3) and pulled away with ease ... no burnt clutch. And that's with a crappy factory single plate item. I guess it comes down to the power being put to the ground ... the 3.15:1 tall gears in the rear ... and maybe a few other factors as well.
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12-10-2006, 09:07 AM
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i know a guy who went to this drive a v8 supercar day or something...it was expensive and you had to have some driving knowlege of course but the thing that they did was they had to start off in third because 1st gear may be too powerful for someone not used to it, you also wasnt allowed to drop gears , so i think he just drove in 3rd 4th and 5th maybe 6th but i dont know....what im saying is that if skaife did that in third it might not reck the clutch at all
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12-10-2006, 09:22 AM
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12-10-2006, 09:31 AM
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Hence my thoughts of a faulty clutch in the first place .... even though it is new ... it still could have failed (no matter what gear he used).
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I bet the hire car didnt have 620bhp which was being applied through some fat sticky tires and a super tall diff under the load of a 1445kg car plus over a hundred litres of fuel and a driver (Prob closer to 1600kg). So yes i can see why if he slipped the clutch too much (be it in 3rd or 1st) that the thing would produce enough heat to **** the whole unit. |
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12-10-2006, 09:38 AM
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Yes I know there is a big power/torque difference ... but there was also a big difference in clutch as well ... so not really a good comparison. But a V8 supercar clutch of that calibre should be able to deal with a 3rd gear launch without any hassles at all ... IF it wasn't faulty.
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