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Old 14-11-2007, 04:07 PM   #1
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Just stumbled onto this, may be perfect for someone here or someone you know.
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Old 14-11-2007, 04:18 PM   #2
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16 hey....im at uni and I would do that even with the crappy wage!
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Old 14-11-2007, 04:25 PM   #3
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Spewin' about the age 16 requirement.
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Old 14-11-2007, 04:27 PM   #4
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Id say that is only because of the crappy pay..LOL Im sure if someone showed genuine interest they would be considered. If only I was still in Vic...
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Old 14-11-2007, 04:36 PM   #5
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i'm going to enquire.
depending on what the job actually requires me to do, i may apply
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Old 14-11-2007, 04:43 PM   #6
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"The successful candidate will be approximately 16 years old and willing to listen and learn".

That could present a challenge..!

Great group of guys, would be a great start up job for someone looking to get into this part of the automotive industry..



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If i had my time again i would definetely consider this!!!
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I sent them an email asking if they would take on a 22 year old, worth a stab. I look forward to the rejection of my desperate plea, lol.
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C'mon sounds like a great opportunity to serve the equivalent of an apprenticeship working on cars - thought that would be a dream for most young guys. Without doubt you'd have to be shkicker first to prove you deserve and are ready to take the step up and you could be working on GTs and get a rep for your work eventually. Would you let just any old 16yo to work on your GT?

Go work at Maccas instead, I hear they have a great management trainee program and you get to work with chicks too.

Money is only so important, skills are highly underrated as is experience. A seal on a certificate hanging behind your desk doesn't make you an expert, the proof is in the brag book of jobs done, or the referal from someone I trust.
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I need a career...ANY career.

I'm almost a decade over. :P
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Probably get the jobs like parts cleaning and sweeping.
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I'd clean and sweep for a year if it allowed me to work on those cars eventually...
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Like id want a 16yo rat bag restoring my six figure car.....

Bit like the apprentice who burnt down a £20million historic home in England a little while back
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hmm i'd apply for that if only it was in QLD, seems like the perfect set up to get into custom fabrication eventually.

nothing good ever happens in this dud state lol
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Old 14-11-2007, 09:34 PM   #17
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Like id want a 16yo rat bag restoring my six figure car.....
Why is a 16 year old automatically a rat bag ? And whats wrong with one helping out on a full resto anyway ? Im not sure it matters how old you are. Even if they are only helping to strip a car down for starters.
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Anyone here who wasnt a ratbag at 16 is lying :P
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Sorry it wasnt £20million, but still expensive none the less.

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A 17-YEAR-old rookie plumber has burned down a £5 million ($12 million) waterside mansion in southwest England, after a soldering task during his first day on the job went horribly wrong.

The historic mansion in Kingswear, Devon, was undergoing a £2 million renovation when a fire ripped through the eight-bedroom house overnight.

In just minutes it burned it down to the ground.

It is thought the fire started after polystyrene insulation caught alight from the flame of a blow torch.
The plumber was working for a firm of sub-contractors.

John Howes, of the Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Service, said the plumber was "very upset", according to the Daily Mail newspaper.

"It appears at this stage that this was an unfortunate plumber who was soldering in the roof space of a large building, which was undergoing total renovation".

"We think a blowtorch may have set light to expanded polystyrene foam in the roof space"

More than 60 firefighters were called to the listed building to fight the blaze.

No one was hurt.

One neighbour said: "I heard it was started by a teenager on his first day. You have to feel sorry for the poor lad. He must feel terrible," the Daily Mail said.

Apparently the millionaire owner, Andrew Brownsword, wasn't very happy either. But his spokesman said Mr Brownsword believed there was no malice involved.
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Sorry it wasnt £20million, but still expensive none the less.
Now was that because he was a 16 year old rat bag,or because his employer hadnt trained him properly?
Left him to work alone and work it out himself I bet,
why teach them when you can be making money off them aye....
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Now was that because he was a 16 year old rat bag,or because his employer hadnt trained him properly?
Left him to work alone and work it out himself I bet,
why teach them when you can be making money off them aye....
Spot on mate, too many apprentices are seen as cheap workers now.
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good way to learn the art of restoration from a master.Ive known Neil for years we went to high school together and pop in regularly to his workshop ,all his work is spot on and thats why he is one of the best in the game,Good work dont come CHEAP!!!!!!!!
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Now was that because he was a 16 year old rat bag,or because his employer hadnt trained him properly?
Left him to work alone and work it out himself I bet,
why teach them when you can be making money off them aye....
On the other hand, I have several young employees who just go off and do things they are not supposed to or are not trained in, can NOT be told not to do things, get VERY upset when told that as a 6 month trainee they are not as experienced and a 20 year tech.

Why are all the young people of today so sure the are experts and know everything?
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Why are all the young people of today so sure the are experts and know everything?
Because quite often their pay cheque tells them they are.
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I would love a job like this. better than the shitbox vl, vs commodores etc i work on everyday. Why couldnt this have come up 6 months ago!!!
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Because quite often their pay cheque tells them they are.
Ah of course, why didn't I think of that. All you have to do is give a young inexperienced untrained knowall smartarse lots of money and they are instantly an experienced trained reliable professional.

Sure beats the old way of actually being trained and learning how to do the job through hands on experience in many and varied situations over many years.
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Ah of course, why didn't I think of that. All you have to do is give a young inexperienced untrained knowall smartarse lots of money and they are instantly an experienced trained reliable professional.
Close. All you have to do is give a young inexperienced untrained knowall smartarse's mate who is also a young inexperienced untrained knowall smartarse lots of money and by default, drongo #1 should be able to get the same plus a little more because he had mechano instead of lego in kindy.
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Close. All you have to do is give a young inexperienced untrained knowall smartarse's mate who is also a young inexperienced untrained knowall smartarse lots of money and by default, drongo #1 should be able to get the same plus a little more because he had mechano instead of lego in kindy.
Ah, bingo, it all becomes clear. It is XBox and Playstation that have secretly imparted "the knowlege of the ancients" to the gifted ones.

I heard a story that in 2001, the Taliban had a second plan to destroy western civilization. They were going to shut down SMS world wide. The immediate result would be the entire human race aged 12 to 25 would go into sensory deprivation shock and crawl up in a ball in the corner dribbling out of both sides of their mouths unable to communicate.
The plan was rejected when it was discovered that the actual effect on western civilization would be a huge reduction in road traffic and the side effects of doof doof and fully-sickness, a massive increase in productivity of all comerce, the restoration of intelligent content on radio and television and the demise of streetcommodres and e-series forums.

I am not sure if it was actually true, anyone know the number for MythBusters......
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Ah of course, why didn't I think of that. All you have to do is give a young inexperienced untrained knowall smartarse lots of money and they are instantly an experienced trained reliable professional.

Sure beats the old way of actually being trained and learning how to do the job through hands on experience in many and varied situations over many years.
my 23 yo neighbour who still lives at home gets paid $50 hr as a contract spray painter... and he averages 35hrs a week work... im in the wrong game.



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On the other hand, I have several young employees who just go off and do things they are not supposed to or are not trained in, can NOT be told not to do things, get VERY upset when told that as a 6 month trainee they are not as experienced and a 20 year tech.

Why are all the young people of today so sure the are experts and know everything?
Yes that happens,I had one very recently,who was more interested in arguing which apprentice should do what job,the one who was the second year,or the one who was older.
You will find people like this in all walks of life,not just the young,its human nature,so do we just write them all off?

The apprentice I mentioned above couldnt be helped,hes moved on,but for every one like this I get 3 that with some patience and sometimes a big stick make great reliable tradesmen,that learn their trade well enough to work anywhere in the world..

Sometimes we need to step back and look at things once removed,and not with our own selfish short term motives,

I was taught by a true master in my field,who was 60 when he took me on,the aspects of my trade I learnt are seldom seen now,but have resulted in me working in some fascinating places,and for great money,
also learned was that I have a responsibility to pass that on,the trade and the work ethic,nobody is going to become rich off an apprentice/trainee,but teach a good one the right way and they will make you a packet in a few years..

There are no lazy apprentices just lazy teachers..
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