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Old 27-10-2005, 09:13 AM   #1
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Default Exclusive New Spy Photos for the VE

A friend who works for Holden has just sent me these exclusive photo's of the VE finally out from under wraps. I must give everyone a warning though, don't tell anyone because it's a secret so SHHHHHHH.

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Old 27-10-2005, 09:16 AM   #2
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Ahhh, I see Holden is going back to pre 2000 retro styling for it's VE. Good luck to them hehehe.
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Old 27-10-2005, 09:19 AM   #3
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I can see that Holden have not sacked any of their clandestine marketing types. The cover of putting a different brand vehicle on the rego plate was pure skill. No one will ever know.

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Old 27-10-2005, 09:22 AM   #4
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Wow this whole Holden <> Korea thing certainly isn't getting old. Really.
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Old 27-10-2005, 09:27 AM   #5
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ltd, love your work.

Does anybody want to post these on LS1?
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Old 27-10-2005, 09:31 AM   #6
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It looks better than the au Falcon!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 27-10-2005, 09:36 AM   #7
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Wow this whole Holden <> Korea thing certainly isn't getting old. Really.
OMG, I have to agree with you on that one.
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It looks better than the au Falcon!!!!!!!!!!!!
You think? Well atleast we agree it looks better than the VZ commodore. :thebirds:
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Old 27-10-2005, 09:40 AM   #9
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You think? Well atleast we agree it looks better than the VZ commodore. :thebirds:
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Old 27-10-2005, 09:42 AM   #10
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Wow this whole Holden <> Korea thing certainly isn't getting old. Really.
Um, just a thought. Why is this Ford Forum so full of Holden fans?
Doesn't Holden have their own forums to push their barrows in?

This is designed as a light hearted joke to upset the overly sensitive fans, but I guess you missed it. My bad
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The VZ Looks better than the ba ba ba black sheep.
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Old 27-10-2005, 09:44 AM   #12
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its not the content, its the fact that the joke is now old...time to think a little harder thats all
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Old 27-10-2005, 10:00 AM   #13
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Whats the joke here?

Holden is importing korean cars and rebadged as holdens. People will buy them because the ads say that holden is the great australian car company.

You see, my thinking is that people are idiots, and thus need constant reminding that their precious new holden is nothing more then the korean import that even slightly discerning buyers turn their noses up at.
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I've owned Holdens and Daewoos, and had plenty of problems with Holdens and none with Daewoos. Of course, the Holden is the more desirable car to own and drive, but based on my experience it is not the higher quality of the two.
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Old 27-10-2005, 10:06 AM   #14
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Um, just a thought. Why is this Ford Forum so full of Holden fans?
Doesn't Holden have their own forums to push their barrows in?

This is designed as a light hearted joke to upset the overly sensitive fans, but I guess you missed it. My bad
Erm... I'm not a Holden fan. Not sure where you got that from....
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Old 27-10-2005, 10:08 AM   #15
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The VZ Looks better than the ba ba ba black sheep.
You know what... I've just read every post you have ever made on this forums and you have the distinct classification of a Troll and a moron. Go back to your knuckle dragging friends and tell them how much of a man you are caue you wont be saying anything more on here... goodbye.
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Old 27-10-2005, 10:43 AM   #16
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Nice work there Casper, good ridance to another of the aforementioned idiots. (and a teenybopper holden man by the sound of it).
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I've owned Holdens and Daewoos, and had plenty of problems with Holdens and none with Daewoos. Of course, the Holden is the more desirable car to own and drive, but based on my experience it is not the higher quality of the two.
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Old 27-10-2005, 11:02 AM   #17
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Holden bashing aside, I don't want to say I was impressed by the build quality of the Viva and Barina at the Sydney motor show, although I will say it was a lot better than what I expected - obviously I didn't drive the thing.

Korea is going down the right track to be the next Japan, likewise, Thailand is building a lot of Nissans, Toyotas and Hondas these days as well. The bad news for us is that as auto manufacturers are starting to turn their attention to a few new markets in Asia and South East Asia, they will start looking to manufacture cars closer to the source of the market and for less cost.

Unfortunately, Korea and Thailand is quickly becoming to Australia what Mexico is to the United States.
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Old 27-10-2005, 12:12 PM   #18
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common people it is a lighthearted joke, take it as it is, and lighten up a little. some people take anything seriously
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Old 27-10-2005, 12:27 PM   #19
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*shudders* ewwwwww Daewoo :
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Old 27-10-2005, 01:00 PM   #21
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You see, my thinking is that people are idiots
I could not agree more with this statement.
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common people it is a lighthearted joke, take it as it is, and lighten up a little. some people take anything seriously
The only one that took it a bit too seriously was HSV Rules.
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Old 27-10-2005, 01:45 PM   #23
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I'm looking forward to the new commodore. I sure hope its as good as its meant to be.

I used to think down on Holden folk, but the people on this forum have helped me understand that a lot of ford fans are idiots as well. So we are one and the same.

Faithful fans of locally produced cars - and we don't know any better.
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I'm looking forward to the new commodore. I sure hope its as good as its meant to be.

I used to think down on Holden folk, but the people on this forum have helped me understand that a lot of ford fans are idiots as well. So we are one and the same.

Faithful fans of locally produced cars - and we don't know any better.
Its in the latest Motor mag and looks ok - massive front wheel arches (like the BMW 3-series) and BMW-esque 7-series rear quarters.

Ford will have to definitely up the ante with the next gen Falcon - but I doubt they'll take the AU design gamble due to the conservative aussie market.
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Whats the joke here?

Holden is importing korean cars and rebadged as holdens. People will buy them because the ads say that holden is the great australian car company.

You see, my thinking is that people are idiots, and thus need constant reminding that their precious new holden is nothing more then the korean import that even slightly discerning buyers turn their noses up at.
Is this any different to Ford's 80s Lasers & Meteor;, Holdens 80s Barinas, 70s Geminis...
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Is this any different to Ford's 80s Lasers & Meteor;, Holdens 80s Barinas, 70s Geminis...

yeah, i'd much prefer a jap import then a korean one.

I think i've got that right? The Laser and Meteor were mazdas? (couldn't give two stuffs about barinas and geminis).
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Yes, the Laser and Meteors were based on 323s. I forgot to add Telstars as well, based on the 626.

Early barinas were Suzuki, and the Geminis were Isuzu.

You say you'd choose a Jap car over a Korean car anyday, but back then Jap cars were viewed the same way. How times have changed! Assuming that car industry trends remain the same, Korean cars in 10-20 years time will be where Jap cars are now. The industry might not be as great, but the product quality will be. And by then we'll probably be joking about Chinese, Indian and Thai cars the way we joke about Korean cars now.

Korea has come a long way since the early days...



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Whats the joke here?

Holden is importing korean cars and rebadged as holdens. People will buy them because the ads say that holden is the great australian car company.

You see, my thinking is that people are idiots, and thus need constant reminding that their precious new holden is nothing more then the korean import that even slightly discerning buyers turn their noses up at.

Your right but I'd go futhur and say holden hasn't been Australian for a while.
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It looks better than the au Falcon!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't we all just get along.. Oh, too late, you're banned.
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i dont think there is such thing as an Australian car anymore is there?
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