|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
06-06-2012, 11:32 PM | #1 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,504
|
FYI
Ford’s Vehicle Operations Manufacturing Engineering Team Goes Further Jun-04-2012 11:40 PM ET MELBOURNE, Australia — Ford’s Vehicle Operations Manufacturing Engineering (VOME) team has gone further to improve efficiency through an upgrade of its wheel alignment facilities. The APA VOME End of Line team, led by Dave Hildreth, combined new Mahle eCats software into Ford’s wheel alignment facilities, which helped optimise overall cycle time. In addition, it provides the engineers with a detailed insight into the task a vehicle is performing during each diagnostic stage. Wheel Align facilities have traditionally used proprietary software for control, interface and data storage. “These upgrades enable electrical testing of vehicles to be spread more efficiently across the Pre Delivery Area via software standardisation and distribution of tests into Wheel Align,” Hildreth said. “Other benefits include the ability to remotely view and analyse Wheel Align data using a web-based reporting system such as Report Logiq.” The new system also allows plants to run different calibration tests between facilities, allowing the testing of advanced vehicle features on a controlled level surface, such as Adaptive Cruise Control, Lane Keeping Aid, and Lane Departure Warning. Combined, these help with the further development of future vehicles. Hildreth said the new system, which is now in place at the Broadmeadows plant in Australia, the Chongqing plant in china and the Rayong plant in Thailand, and will be introduced as the regional standard. |
||
06-06-2012, 11:39 PM | #2 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: GEELONG
Posts: 7,946
|
does that mean that ford au will be manufacturing here in melbourne for a long time to come or am I just reading to much into it
Jason
__________________
no longer have a ford but a ford man at heart R.I.P 98 EL MAY YOU HAVE A GOOD LIFE IN FALCON HEAVEN [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
|
||
06-06-2012, 11:41 PM | #3 | ||
Awesome
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In my own little world..Everyone here knows me :)
Posts: 9,401
|
That's a good thing
Was there any more info or was that the whole story? Can I ask where the story was sourced from? Cheers Col
__________________
|
||
07-06-2012, 12:02 AM | #4 | ||
No longer a Uni student..
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Coffs Harbour, NSW
Posts: 2,557
|
Google gives this from searching the name of the article.
__________________
Previous: 1992 Mitsubishi Lancer - Petrol/Manual/Silver 1997 Ford Falcon GLi - Petrol/Auto/White Current: 2012 Ford Focus Sport - Petrol/Manual/Black |
||
07-06-2012, 01:19 AM | #5 | |||
IWCMOGTVM Club Supporter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Posts: 17,799
|
Quote:
__________________
Daniel |
|||
07-06-2012, 01:55 AM | #6 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,504
|
Definitely, wouldn't need to test or certify on imports that already have it. So that leaves opportunity for the local product and obviously the development work that FordAPA are responsible for on their global and ASEAN programs.
|
||
07-06-2012, 09:21 AM | #7 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,876
|
Good news, especially on the potential for added features.
|
||
07-06-2012, 09:50 AM | #8 | ||
Giddy up.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Kramerica Industries.
Posts: 15,637
|
It's good to hear some positive new's lately after the grey cloud's that have been looming.
|
||
07-06-2012, 10:27 AM | #9 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 3,874
|
Quote:
|
|||
07-06-2012, 12:32 PM | #10 | ||
Oo\===/oO
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tamworth
Posts: 11,348
|
Ford’s Vehicle Operations Manufacturing Engineering.
Positive signs for the falcon and territory. Ford cementing its facilities here for longer then the reported 2016 date perhaps. Take this, haters. Falcon here to stay...
__________________
|
||
07-06-2012, 12:41 PM | #11 | |||
The 'Stihl' Man
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,588
|
Quote:
But at the end of the day you dont spend money knowing your about to pull the plug.
__________________
|
|||
07-06-2012, 12:52 PM | #12 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,504
|
There's a new car being worked on... that's all I can say.
|
||
07-06-2012, 01:09 PM | #13 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 713
|
No please tell us more, is it for local sale, is it part of the falcon range please tell us more
|
||
07-06-2012, 01:12 PM | #14 | |||
The 'Stihl' Man
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,588
|
Quote:
But that doesnt make much sense as Thailand would do it alot cheaper I assume.... Small car..nah Focus and Fiesta again done better elsewhere..medium size..maybe. Damn it must be the new GWRD hey, or a RHD Mustang to be made here and exported to other RHD places.../dream
__________________
|
|||
07-06-2012, 01:15 PM | #15 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,653
|
Investing in Australia is always a good sinse!!
|
||
07-06-2012, 01:16 PM | #16 | |||
Pity the fool
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
|
Quote:
Ford Motor wouldnt be approving this additional facility and expenditure on manufacturing operations that are supposedly doomed. Don't forget Ford Australia is one of only three locations in the Ford empire that can design, engineer, test and build a car from scratch. The end. Also, those items listed on that press release (blind spot system etc) are a sure bet for the MY14 update. The FG already uses EUCD door mirrors which have all of these functions in other EUCD cars.
__________________
Fords I own or have owned: 1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin |
|||
07-06-2012, 01:18 PM | #17 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,801
|
Quote:
Really refreshing to hear some good indications for once. Last edited by Rodge; 07-06-2012 at 01:25 PM. |
|||
07-06-2012, 01:19 PM | #18 | |||
Awesome
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In my own little world..Everyone here knows me :)
Posts: 9,401
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|||
07-06-2012, 07:18 PM | #19 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,242
|
Did I read the whole story wrong or is everyone getting excited about nothing? It was a software upgrade. No new machine or anything. Someone has simply put in a disk or downloaded some software that is also being used overseas.
|
||
07-06-2012, 08:23 PM | #20 | ||
Solution Was Boost 4?, 6 & 8
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 23,624
|
Great news, well done FORD.
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
AUTOTECH TUNED EDELEBROCK CHARGED 2017 GT Mustang Plenty of RWKW |
||
07-06-2012, 08:25 PM | #21 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,653
|
Quote:
|
|||
07-06-2012, 08:26 PM | #22 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,653
|
Quote:
|
|||
07-06-2012, 09:09 PM | #23 | ||
Peter Car
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
|
I think any future plans are in serious danger after the latest market response meetings.
Just can't see the place even being close to viable when Falcon sales are down so low and they are predicting it will get even worse, based on the huge amount of down days planned. Only hope for a future model past 2016 must solely rely on an export plan or its curtains. You could never pay back a half billion+ investment for a new model solely relying on such pitiful local sales. I'm hoping they do have some sort of export plan, can't see any other way. |
||
07-06-2012, 09:18 PM | #24 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,367
|
Quote:
Broadmeadows is getting such an upgrade because Ford is developing vehicles with these advanced features... Think about it, Ford continues to upgrade a line that some think will be closing....... |
|||
07-06-2012, 09:23 PM | #25 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,468
|
Quote:
Last edited by Dr Smith; 07-06-2012 at 09:30 PM. |
|||
07-06-2012, 09:28 PM | #26 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,367
|
Quote:
|
|||
07-06-2012, 09:31 PM | #27 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Melb.
Posts: 4,468
|
Quote:
|
|||
07-06-2012, 09:54 PM | #28 | |||
Pity the fool
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
|
Quote:
__________________
Fords I own or have owned: 1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin |
|||
07-06-2012, 10:43 PM | #29 | |||
The 'Stihl' Man
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,588
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|||
08-06-2012, 10:46 AM | #30 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 690
|
You are right, I did this simple calculation to try and work out the profit margin Ford would need to maintain for each Falcon sold just to pay off the R&D investment costs in to a significant model upgrade over a three year period.
I obviously do not know the average profit per Falcon sold (profit in this case being the revenue minus all manufacturing/marketing/sales related costs but excluding cost of R&D) so I used the following few numbers: At $5,000 (profit per car) x 13,000 (yearly sales forecast) x 3 years (model life span) = $195 mil At $7,500 (profit per car) x 13,000 (yearly sales forecast) x 3 years (model life span) = $292.5 mil At $10,000 (profit per car) x 13,000 (yearly sales forecast) x 3 years (model life span) = $390 mil At $12,500 (profit per car) x 13,000 (yearly sales forecast) x 3 years (model life span) = $487.5 mil At $15,000 (profit per car) x 13,000 (yearly sales forecast) x 3 years (model life span) = $585 mil So assuming that a decent model update would require an R&D budget of say 500million, with the current forecasted sales numbers of 13,000 annually, ford would have to make somewhere in the region of $15,000 per car once to cover the cost of R&D and make a tiny profit. Considering the cost of the Falcon, and that majority of cars are sold as heavy discounts to fleets, it seems highly unlikely that Fords margin per sale is anywhere near that region … hence investing such a substantial amount of money based on the current sales projections would absolutely make no financial sense. OFCS having the government chip in a whole bunch of money would change the balance, but it would have to be a pretty substantial chip in … Quote:
|
|||
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|