Done Speeding

walker · 10-02-2007, 10:39 PM

when you are caught speeding with the gun are they ment to take 2 or 3 klm's off??????????

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Jamesbondage · 10-02-2007, 10:49 PM

Depends how much you was over m8........i always thought there was a allowence for 10% out with your speedo

EvilChief · 10-02-2007, 10:52 PM

do the crime do the time ... no need to whinge

LUXO_8 · 10-02-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesbondage

Depends how much you was over m8........i always thought there was a allowence for 10% out with your speedo

not in vic mate.....3km'h over...

how fast were ya going walker?......... IMO you should just wear it if you've been done.....

ive been done a few times and havent made posts on here trying to find ways to get myself out of it

satria · 10-02-2007, 10:59 PM

shutup evilchief... that attitude sucks.

stand up for yourself instead of just admitting defeat. pussy.

some speed limits are sensible but most of them are rediculously low.

ratter · 10-02-2007, 11:00 PM

Zero tolerance in Vic, although I beleive they may take 1 kmh off for radar tolerances

EvilChief · 10-02-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by satria

shutup evilchief... that attitude sucks.

stand up for yourself instead of just admitting defeat. pussy.

some speed limits are sensible but most of them are rediculously low.

riiiiiiiiiiight

standing up for yourself also means, taking responsibility for your actions, especially when you have done something wrong. take it with a slap on wrist and move on

Jamesbondage · 10-02-2007, 11:04 PM

Iam from Sydney and i did get done with a camera in VIC once 63 in a 60.........thats B******t!!!!

RG · 10-02-2007, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by satria

shutup evilchief... that attitude sucks.

stand up for yourself instead of just admitting defeat. pussy.

some speed limits are sensible but most of them are rediculously low.

But they are still there and still must be abided by. You sound like a dead set fool making a comment like that.

rodderz · 10-02-2007, 11:05 PM

I know someone who is a police prosecutor, basically the one who agues for the police side in court, she said that there was the 3km tolerance on any speed limit, then 3km for camera error

but there is discretion involved with some cases

AU2PWR · 10-02-2007, 11:11 PM

Speed Limits are there for a Reason , you Go over the Limit , you Break the Law .. Simple ,

Wear the Fine , But Learn from it aswell..

Satria , no need to Get all Righteous , im Sick of the More Mature Aged Drivers Claiming that the Younger ones are Irresponsible ,

Because you all never did anything wrong when you were young .. Did you ?

Victoria Police has a 0.7% Tolerance with Radar Guns..

Hitman · 10-02-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by walker

when you are caught speeding with the gun are they ment to take 2 or 3 klm's off??????????

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Can all the people that are telling the OP to 'take it like a man' and to 'stop whinging' please point out to me ( I must be blind)in the above quoted original post where he is whinging??

EvilChief · 10-02-2007, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by walker

when you are caught speeding with the gun are they ment to take 2 or 3 klm's off??????????

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No a reduction of the enfringement of a fine is at the discression of the officer issuing the fine. the case can be argued at the time of the incident or in court at a later time, if the offender chooses to argue his or her case. Otherwise the aleged speed will be taken as the offence and a corresponding infridgement notice is issued.

AU2PWR · 10-02-2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Can all the people that are telling the OP to 'take it like a man' and to 'stop whinging' please point out to me ( I must be blind)in the above quoted original post where he is whinging??

Exactly ! Poor Bugger only asked a Question ..

gtfpv · 10-02-2007, 11:39 PM

from my own experiance . i have found cruise control comes in very handy. but you have to watch for speed changes .

kyro_02 · 10-02-2007, 11:44 PM

i know someone who got done allege speed 13kmph .. reduced to 10kmph for the 3kmph tolerance... though you may as well have 0% .. taking 3kmph off isn't going to lower the points that goes on your license eh.. (almost every other state? has the 10kmph tolerance because of factory speedo's MAY be inaccurate right?)

JC · 10-02-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by walker

when you are caught speeding with the gun are they ment to take 2 or 3 klm's off??????????

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I thought the idea was for you guys to "Wipe off 5" to avoid being booked. By "you guys", I mean Victorians. Most other states still have a reasonable 10% tolerance, though of course you can still get booked for doing 62 in a 60 zone - but most officers wouldn't bother.

EvilChief · 11-02-2007, 12:11 AM

the whole inaccuracy of speedo from factory might have been right a few years ago, but these days the electronic speedo calibration is pretty damn spot on. i have found most factory cars with factory wheel size to be actually 1 - 2 km/h under on the spedometer compared to the dyno read out.

alteration of wheel size is the owners fault and should be adjusted or accounted for by the owner

but i must admit i have been followed by police on several occasions doing 5 to 7km/h over my speedo and never had a hassle, only been booked when i crossed the 10+ marker, which is fair enough and that was my fault

satria · 11-02-2007, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by AU2PWR

Speed Limits are there for a Reason , you Go over the Limit , you Break the Law .. Simple ,

Wear the Fine , But Learn from it aswell..

Satria , no need to Get all Righteous , im Sick of the More Mature Aged Drivers Claiming that the Younger ones are Irresponsible ,

Because you all never did anything wrong when you were young .. Did you ?

Victoria Police has a 0.7% Tolerance with Radar Guns..

hey AU2PWR, i'm 21 years old... don't know where you got the idea i was old lol

all i'm saying is speeding fines are just revenue raisers so if you can find a loophole somewhere bloody use it. More money to spend on your pride and joy.

And btw yes in 4 years i haven't lost 1 demerit point and have never been fined and no i don't drive like a granny, i just drive smart.

TURBOTAXI · 11-02-2007, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilChief

the whole inaccuracy of speedo from factory might have been right a few years ago, but these days the electronic speedo calibration is pretty damn spot on. i have found most factory cars with factory wheel size to be actually 1 - 2 km/h under on the spedometer compared to the dyno read out.

alteration of wheel size is the owners fault and should be adjusted or accounted for by the owner

but i must admit i have been followed by police on several occasions doing 5 to 7km/h over my speedo and never had a hassle, only been booked when i crossed the 10+ marker, which is fair enough and that was my fault

My ex NSW Police HWP XR6T speedo was calibrated in early december 2006 (just before I got it) The GPS reckons that the speedo is about 7kph out at 110. I say challenge anything you think needs to be challenged.

SNB05T · 11-02-2007, 08:28 AM

[QUOTE=JC]I thought the idea was for you guys to "Wipe off 5" to avoid being booked. By "you guys", I mean Victorians.

your'e part right jc, i think thats applies when its raining though.

i do feel for our mexican cousins though, me and the missus were down there a couple of weeks ago for a holiday, went down to geelong to look at the ford discovery centre. how many more speed cameras does "bracks" want to put on the overhead bridges on the freeway to geelong? there's heaps! still much better roads and traffic flow than here in sydney.

to the ticket, i don't really think its worth fighting dude, it could end up costing you more in court costs etc than the actual fine.

Yaw · 11-02-2007, 08:37 AM

I think you will find the 10% tolerence is as already stated a discretionary thing. Most cases I am aware of the descretion is more like lets say you get pulled up in a 60kph zone doing 77kph, you could argue yes I was speeding but I was only doing 74kph.
You could get the benifit of the doubt and get booked for the lesser charge of less than 15kph over the limit.

walker · 11-02-2007, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by EvilChief

do the crime do the time ... no need to whinge

Ease up buddy, It's not the fact I'm havin a cry that I got done it's the fact that the copa only took 2 not 3 points off, which means instant ! month suspension and the fine is huge. No need to get your knickers in a Knot!!!!!!!!!!!!

prydey · 11-02-2007, 12:35 PM

if people want to believe that they are allowed to travel 10% faster than the posted speed limit then they should cop it on the chin when they get done. a speed limit is exactly that. any faster and you are breaking the law and elligible for a fine. the cops with the camera's and the guns know exactly how fast you are going within about 1% so thats a risk you take if you don't want to believe what your speedo is telling you.

tolerances for speedo error is not a written law anywhere. most cars (every car from factory) speedo will actually read faster than you are going so to get done at 3 - 5kph over the limit your speedo was probably reading closer to 8kph over. the cops know this is the case as its illegal for a car manufacturer to have it out the other way.

if you want to drive at 66 in 60 zones and 88 in 80's etc then don't be whinging when you get done.

before you all jump down my throat, yes i speed from time to time and do other things that aren't exactly legal but thats my decision and i'll cop the consequence when it comes. touch wood, haven't been done speeding for over 10yrs so hopefully that continues.

speed is a scapegoat for the govt and something that gets a lot of media attention so there will always be more cops attention on this than other offences.

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doofdoof23 · 11-02-2007, 01:12 PM

law is 3km tolerance in a 60-70-80-90 zone.

And 100+ zones are a 3% tolerance.

In WA however last time i checked was a 1% tolerance.

But in saying that, your speedo will have a generous tolerance and combined with theirs you can get away with a bit. On holidays i passed a few cameras, two of them while i was overtaking on the highway and i expected at least 4-5 tickets when i got home..... still havent received nothing. And all these instances were doing around 110-115 in a 100 zone

Redrum · 11-02-2007, 01:31 PM

When I issue a speeding ticket in Victoria, I always have detected speed and then alleged speed being 2kmph less. This is the way I was taught. I don't know about other states. This is not the discretion. I understand the official Victoria Police line on discretion for members is 10kmph, but since then Bracks Tax has lessened the discretion from 10% to 3%. I am not sure if this affected Force Policy. I have my own level of discretion....

**EASYBOSS** · 11-02-2007, 03:07 PM

Do the crime pay the fine, I vote this thread be locked as its a waste of time.
If you live in VIC, you know the rules!!!!!! Simple

kyro_02 · 11-02-2007, 04:09 PM

if you read the thread he asked a question about the speed tolerance........... I can't see anywhere he asked how to get out of the fine ???

walker · 11-02-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kyro_02

if you read the thread he asked a question about the speed tolerance........... I can't see anywhere he asked how to get out of the fine ???

thank you all these ppl are getting on there high horse, making out I'm trying to get out of it, well in fact I'm not just want to know about the speed tolerance

ratter · 11-02-2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

tolerances for speedo error is not a written law anywhere. most cars (every car from factory) speedo will actually read faster than you are going so to get done at 3 - 5kph over the limit your speedo was probably reading closer to 8kph over. the cops know this is the case as its illegal for a car manufacturer to have it out the other way.

There is an ADR that states a speedo must be within 10%.
That 10% can be either direction, but as you mentioned most manufacturers normally read slightly faster then the car is travelling, until people play with tyre sizes, diff gears etc

Anybody with a workshop can check a speedo for accuracy and cost is not all that dear. It will not get you off a fine, but at least you will know exactly what speed you are doing.