Engine Transplant ..

AU2PWR · 09-03-2008, 12:16 PM

Gday Folks

Enjoying the Long Weekend ?

Well .. ive got a Small Question , that may turn out to be pretty good ..

I have been Offered a Series 3 XR8 Motor , Auto Gearbox , LSD Diff , Tailshaft , and Computer for $2750 .. Nice Huh !

My Question though is , how long does a Transplant Take .. A Full Day ? 2 Days ? ..

Also , What do you need other than the parts ive Listed .. Like , I Know id need Radiator Hoses because of the Different Motor .. and other Little things ..

Any and All help is Always Appreciated ..

Cheers
Daniel

StealthAu · 09-03-2008, 12:19 PM

It would be a big job, you would need bassically everything from the dash forwards. Youw would be better off buing a wrecked xr8 if you were planning this.

b2tf · 09-03-2008, 03:19 PM

You're mad if you don't say yes.....

You will need to do the looms also, to physically put the engine and box in I would think that if you have everything else sorted it should be do-able in a day.

stiddy · 09-03-2008, 03:59 PM

Physically putting the engine and box in will take about 6hrs.
Get the engine loom from the 8, which will plug upto your current dash loom and get the XR8 computer and plug that in.
I give it a solid 2 days if you know what your doing. Most things will plug and play.

AU2PWR · 09-03-2008, 05:58 PM

So , ill need teh wiring loom .. which i think comes with it so thats a bonus ..

Might Pay and get someone to put it in ..

Just checked the Builders name - 'Hector M' ..

This is an awesome deal .. Im going to take it !

RG · 09-03-2008, 06:15 PM

I'll get it before Whoosha does.

Mutant

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AU2PWR · 09-03-2008, 06:45 PM

nah its a bloke from my work .. no chance of that ..

RG · 09-03-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AU2PWR

nah its a bloke from my work .. no chance of that ..

You're still a mutant.

StealthAu · 09-03-2008, 06:54 PM

What happened to your turbo plans?

No Judge · 09-03-2008, 06:59 PM

If you could source engine mounts, these may also help holding everything inplace

GK · 09-03-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AU2PWR

So , ill need teh wiring loom .. which i think comes with it so thats a bonus ..

Might Pay and get someone to put it in ..

Just checked the Builders name - 'Hector M' ..

This is an awesome deal .. Im going to take it !

Does this mean you're taking on a project without Whoosha?

GK

chief · 09-03-2008, 10:17 PM

If you go at my pace maybe about 2 years. There are a lot of little things that you will need to do that will take time, patience and money.

**Whoosha** · 10-03-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell

I'll get it before Whoosha does.

Mutant

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Gees StrokerDud You mite end up with 2 stockers that can beat you then

"HECTOR M" built mine

: and as I said last time the shops shut till the Cortina is on the track... But you are right he is a Mutant

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AU2PWR · 10-03-2008, 05:39 PM

Meh .. GVAFK ..

Nah , Im thinking on doing this rather than the turbo now .. Still Undecided , but might have to Sell the Parts i have purchased from ebay ..

So Ill speak to the Boss , And then Start looking for Extras .. Engine Mounts , Exhaust , and Headers ..

Also Means i can Get rid of My Motor , Gearbox and Pacemakers .. so , Looks like a Bit of an Adventure ..

And yeah .. still a mutant !

Daniel

LG · 10-03-2008, 05:43 PM

Well if your not interested in it, I'd be interested in the diff. But I think there might be another big problem for you.

Being a Series 3 and XR8, you can pretty much guarantee that the XR8 was IRS, which would mean the diff, tailshaft won't fit your car, unless he has the IRS for you to put into your car, which then again would be another massive job.

Cheers

AU2PWR · 10-03-2008, 05:48 PM

Can you not just use the Original Tailshaft and Find a LSD from a Live Axle AU ?

sly · 10-03-2008, 06:51 PM

Not too much trouble to have a custom tailshaft made if you need one.

b2tf · 10-03-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LG

Well if your not interested in it, I'd be interested in the diff. But I think there might be another big problem for you.

Being a Series 3 and XR8, you can pretty much guarantee that the XR8 was IRS, which would mean the diff, tailshaft won't fit your car, unless he has the IRS for you to put into your car, which then again would be another massive job.

Cheers

Good point LG. Diff would be easy though, just keep the current diff and put the gears from the new one in, and if you can find an AU2 XR8 tailshaft, you'd be right.

AU2PWR · 10-03-2008, 08:08 PM

So Austin , A Series 3 Tailshaft is no good , but a S2 one is ?

b2tf · 10-03-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AU2PWR

So Austin , A Series 3 Tailshaft is no good , but a S2 one is ?

Just reread what I wrote and I buggered it right up, I was thinking of the diff - few more live axle XR's produced in S2 and as LG said the vast majority of S3 XR8's were IRS in which case it's no good to you.

The tailshaft itself would be fine out of any Series and you could use any tailshaft as long as its from a V8 AU.

HLC · 10-03-2008, 08:34 PM

i thought all xr8's were IRS???

philstoj · 10-03-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HLC

i thought all xr8's were IRS???

This is correct!

LG · 10-03-2008, 08:39 PM

Not 100%, but even IRS Diff gears won't fit into his assuming 3.08 housing. I know, because I'm trying to get some gears in mine. You need to look for Skyline or Commodore type gears.

So if it's from a live axle xr8, then your all good. But if it's from an IRS xr8, you may find some more complications with the driveline.

philstoj · 10-03-2008, 08:55 PM

only live axle xr8's were the utes, all xr8 sedans had irs (different diff gears to live axle)

b2tf · 10-03-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by philstoj

only live axle xr8's were the utes, all xr8 sedans had irs (different diff gears to live axle)

coulda sworn IRS was an option on S1 and 2?

philstoj · 10-03-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

coulda sworn IRS was an option on S1 and 2?

Nup, standard on xr8 sedans, option on xr6 sedans though.

private9 · 10-03-2008, 09:58 PM

Sounds like a very good deal Daniel - you should be able to sell off the IRS, tailshaft, and all your 6 cylinder stuff to nicely offset the purchase price.

I was considering a V8 conversion for mine as well a while back as I have a donor car handy, but I know that realistically I will never finish the job, and I never got as far as checking installation costs.

Good luck, but if it was me I'd still be going turbo, or sell it and buy an 8.

b2tf · 10-03-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by philstoj

Nup, standard on xr8 sedans, option on xr6 sedans though.

Ah k, well heres a curly one, what about a V8 Forte? Would it have had IRS?

RG · 10-03-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

Ah k, well heres a curly one, what about a V8 Forte? Would it have had IRS?

Nope I don't think they did. I think the only difference in tailshafts between the 6 & 8 would be the input into the back of the box and the way it bolts to the diff.

**DJM83** · 11-03-2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

Ah k, well heres a curly one, what about a V8 Forte? Would it have had IRS?

V8 Forte would have live axle. All AU XR8 sedans had IRS.
All AU utes (XL-XR8) had live axle.
All AU XR6HP had live axle, XR6 VCT had IRS.
Fairmont Ghia VCT/V8 had IRS all the rest have live axle.