Engine Transplant .. - Page 2

b2tf · 11-03-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TE50 056

V8 Forte would have live axle. All AU XR8 sedans had IRS.
All AU utes (XL-XR8) had live axle.
All AU XR6HP had live axle, XR6 VCT had IRS.
Fairmont Ghia VCT/V8 had IRS all the rest have live axle.

So theoretically, to put an XR8 motor into a 6 cyl AU (as is thread starters intent), you would need the diff and tailshaft from either a V8 Forte or Fairmont. Ute stuff would obviously be no good.

**DJM83** · 11-03-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

So theoretically, to put an XR8 motor into a 6 cyl AU (as is thread starters intent), you would need the diff and tailshaft from either a V8 Forte or Fairmont. Ute stuff would obviously be no good.

Yeah, not sure on whether the ute stuff is any good but i dont think it is.
But bits from a V8 Forte or Fairmont would do the trick

b2tf · 11-03-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TE50 056

Yeah, not sure on whether the ute stuff is any good but i dont think it is.
But bits from a V8 Forte or Fairmont would do the trick

Ute stuff wouldnt be because tailshaft is longer, and leafs at the rear

**DJM83** · 11-03-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

Ute stuff wouldnt be because tailshaft is longer, and leafs at the rear

Yeah i knew about the length, but forgot about the old cart suspension

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AU2PWR · 11-03-2008, 05:04 PM

So basically i need to find a Wrecked V8 Forte or Fairmont to grab the Diff and Tailshaft out of ??

**DJM83** · 11-03-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AU2PWR

So basically i need to find a Wrecked V8 Forte or Fairmont to grab the Diff and Tailshaft out of ??

Yep then you should be set to go

b2tf · 11-03-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AU2PWR

So basically i need to find a Wrecked V8 Forte or Fairmont to grab the Diff and Tailshaft out of ??

would make it a lot easier by the sounds of it, while youre there you can grab climate control, leather seats, ah bugger it just buy the whole car

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AU2PWR · 11-03-2008, 05:37 PM

Ill see what FTG has .. ...

FS5 · 11-03-2008, 09:24 PM

go to a wreckers and see if you can compare a i6 tail shaft to a v8 one.
take a tape measure and measure them and count the splines on the input shaft.
would save a lot of money seeing no one has a definate answer.

b2tf · 11-03-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FS5

go to a wreckers and see if you can compare a i6 tail shaft to a v8 one.
take a tape measure and measure them and count the splines on the input shaft.
would save a lot of money seeing no one has a definate answer.

I6 tailshaft cannot be used on a V8 engine.

JoesAu · 11-03-2008, 09:57 PM

yeah my oldman says they are different too

LG · 11-03-2008, 10:00 PM

You can still use your existing diff, but just the tailshaft would need to be a V8 one, or have yours modified for around ~$200. You also have to get the same tailshaft with the right transmission. Manual & Automatic tailshafts are different lengths.

Ideally it would be better to slot in better diff gears and LSD, which you need to find from any Live Axle AU Sedan. If you want 3.23 or higher, you need the housing to go with it, and do a straight swap. But for the hassle, your better off just getting a place to rebuild your current diff with gears and LSD that you want for around $1500, as they would be brand new instead of a 2nd hand set for $650 that will most likely be shagged.

It sounds like a great deal, but personally all the effort and time required, I'd keep with the Forced plan.

Goodluck with it.

FS5 · 11-03-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by b2tf

I6 tailshaft cannot be used on a V8 engine.

whats the difference???

why not just swap the bell housing on your gearbox then????

will the v8 bellhosing bolt on the i6 box?

FS5 · 11-03-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FS5

whats the difference???

why not just swap the bell housing on your gearbox then????

will the v8 bellhosing bolt on the i6 box?

maybe i should have posted it a bit better.
will a v8 bellhousing off a btr bolt onto an i6 btr ,or are they the same?
is the v8 box the same as they run in the i6?

i'm pretty much 99.9% sure an IRS diff centre will go into a live axel setup.a call to a reputable diffshop would sort this out .

AU2PWR · 12-03-2008, 04:01 PM

The Motor has a BTR Bolted up to it already ..

So The Motor , Diff and Box are Ok .. its just the Tailshaft that will be the problem

GK · 12-03-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AU2PWR

The Motor has a BTR Bolted up to it already ..

So The Motor , Diff and Box are Ok .. its just the Tailshaft that will be the problem

You'll get a tailshaft no worries.

Go for it Daniel, then you'll truly be able to spin em up, just like Habib! LOL!

GK

AU2PWR · 12-03-2008, 07:31 PM

Oh Sick Mate .. Ill be driving a FOV LIDR (<-- Say that in a Woggy Accent , you will know what i mean)

So , if anyone one knows of a Tailshaft , Send me a Message or Post here ..

private9 · 12-03-2008, 08:01 PM

^^^^^That's exactly how all of my wog mates refer to the bloody things! I'm possibly the only one in existence who doesn't!

You just missed out on a cheap as TT kit to suit a 5lt - Dave (Ghia5l) was selling it for $1200, just needed a fuel system. I think he said it's still pending payment, so you could always keep an eye on his FS thread.

RspecAU · 12-03-2008, 08:41 PM

Try the Ford wrecker in Breaside he's pretty good with his prices

private9 · 12-03-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RspecAU

Try the Ford wrecker in Breaside he's pretty good with his prices

REALLY good! Every time I've needed anything, they're always under.

GK · 12-03-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AU2PWR

Oh Sick Mate .. Ill be driving a FOV LIDR (<-- Say that in a Woggy Accent , you will know what i mean)

Actually for a wog, it took me a while to get it! Five Litre! LOL!

Gee upon reflection, you must have a few wog mates to even make that gag connection, let alone post it! LOL!

GK

AU2PWR · 13-03-2008, 05:54 PM

i have lots of wog mates - its melbourne George , Were all wogs !

Nah .. Alls good .. No Harm Intended , Wogs are Cool , Specially Oakleigh Wogs

Got the Motor Up on the Hoist today and Changed the Oil and Stuff in it , he also had some Pacemaker XR8 Headers .. So another Bonus .. this Guys shed is like Aladdins Cave , Tyres , Motors , Trucks - EVERYTHING !

blackers10 · 13-03-2008, 06:17 PM

the live axle and IRS guts are the same
confirmed by a chap on here who owned a diff shop

id presume the tail shaft may be different tho due to the play in a live axle tailshaft (due to being able to move up and down)

also you cant use an EA diff as they had 25 instead of 28 splines like EB onward