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Old 18-02-2009, 06:06 PM   #1
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Default NSW Police BF/BF2 Falcon's

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I know topic's like these have been covered before, but I was just wondering how exactly NSW Police BF/BF2 Falcon XT's differ from regular XT's.

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Old 18-02-2009, 06:07 PM   #2
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They have lights, sirens and blue stickers all over them..
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Old 18-02-2009, 06:15 PM   #3
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I don't know about nowadays but the cop cars from 10 years ago used to have:
2km increment speedo
Electric Windows all round so they could be locked
Sometimes different diff gears
Courtesy Lights over the rear doors
A switch on the dash to turn on and off the interior light
And a few other things i've forgotten.
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Old 18-02-2009, 06:18 PM   #4
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Bullet proof vests in the boot.

2 way radio.

baton holder.

extra coffee mug holders.

and donut crumbs under the seats.
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Old 18-02-2009, 06:29 PM   #6
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Dash Cluster has a police mode, Interior Lights have a police mode. Some Police cars and taxicabs had extra lights in the back. There's a different engine-bay loom for ancillaries. Taxicabs take their per-km data from a line in the passenger footwell.

I'm not aware of any other differences other than the wheels.


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Old 18-02-2009, 06:33 PM   #7
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I don't know about nowadays but the cop cars from 10 years ago used to have:
2km increment speedo
Electric Windows all round so they could be locked
Sometimes different diff gears
Courtesy Lights over the rear doors
A switch on the dash to turn on and off the interior light
And a few other things i've forgotten.

You forgot to mention ashtrays everywhere as well.
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Old 18-02-2009, 06:33 PM   #8
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LSD even on general duty XTs.
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Old 18-02-2009, 06:46 PM   #9
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Not sure of the police XT's. I know the Queensland Ambulance commodore sedans are the same as a QLD police sedan and the differences are minimal. The only differences I can see is a larger capacity electrics for all the ancillary equipment, LSD, suspension (FE2 in holden speak) and steel wheels with different spec tyres. No engine mods at all.


Not to mention red/blue lights, siren, stickers and holes all over the dash and console from the gear that is mounted inside.
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Old 18-02-2009, 07:05 PM   #10
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Oh and from what I've heard, not 100% sure, bigger alternator and starter motor due to added electrics.
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They used to be different in the old days, which gave them a few extra options making and ex cop car worth buying. not so much these days.
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Old 18-02-2009, 07:22 PM   #12
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Oh and from what I've heard, not 100% sure, bigger alternator and starter motor due to added electrics.

Not sure about the starter motor, can not see why it would need a bigger one.

I have just looked at our station's sedan and it definately has a twin battery setup in the boot, leading me to believe it would need a larger alternator to charge them. It also definately has FE2 suspension. I have been told they run the same size brakes as standard but do have different pad materials. I have driven them and have not noticed anything unusual about the speedo as they have digital readout in the centre, I bet they are calibrated to greater accuracy though. In comparison to the earlier non-police spec cars we had (just striped up povo pacs) they definately have better handling, better brakes but no different in power.

I know this is all on a Commodore but you can bet the Falcons will be a similar spec. If I ever go to a station that has a falcon I will have a look.
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In Qld they were mostly Futuras, with 4 electric windows, courtesy lights, spin resistant diff(not true LSD), and 4 air bags for safety being the main differences, most also had the lowered suspension pack

No differences in engine, starter, cluster, alternator on any recent ones I have bought. They even put the mags back on before they sell em

Nowdays you are hard pressed to find a Falcon as the govt has changed most general duties cars to Camrys and 4 cylinder models.
Still get the odd one from country areas and traffic branch but.
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They are all just stock vehicles, except for the occasional spent shotgun cartridge in the boot...during wabbit hunting season that is..
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They've got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas
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What do you say, is it the new Bluesmobile, or what?
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wheels, suspension, brake pads are lucas(dusty), Electrics are upgraded. They go better as they are thrashed from new.
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A mate had a VT that was a cop car. It had a steel bash plate under the engine.
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A mate had a VT that was a cop car. It had a steel bash plate under the engine.
I had a 9C1 ex Police VT, that bash plate was a real monster. I remember running over a housebrick once, and was dreading the sight of my sump after the noise it made. Got out and had a look and there was just a little smudge on the plate and pieces of smashed brick all over the road
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Is that chicken wings or chicken legs?
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Four fried chickens and a Coke and some dry white toast please.
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seen a few qld police futura's fully marked with factory alloys not steelies
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seen a few qld police futura's fully marked with factory alloys not steelies
yep, when they did the update to BFmk2 they got pretty much factory spec futura's with the usual police package.
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Yes but were they fitted with the State County Municipal Offender Data System ?
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Bullet proof vests in the boot.

2 way radio.

baton holder.

extra coffee mug holders.

and donut crumbs under the seats.
...hey...HEY...they're not donut crumbs...they're empty Thai food containers.
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