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11-01-2010, 03:39 PM | #1 | |||
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/52684/fo...rains-in-2010/
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11-01-2010, 04:27 PM | #2 | ||
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Good news No AMF or SIDI !!!
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11-01-2010, 11:33 PM | #3 | ||
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interesting times ahead.
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13-01-2010, 07:14 PM | #4 | ||
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So what engines do we know are going to be in the upgraded FG in July?
- 4 cylinder turbocharged - direct injection 4.0 - direct injection 4.0 turbo charged - Coyote V8 5.0 Is that correct? |
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13-01-2010, 07:18 PM | #5 | |||
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I6 4L (can stay port injection to pass emissions) I6 4L Turbo I6 4L DILPG 4cyl is meant to come out in 2011.
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13-01-2010, 07:25 PM | #6 | ||
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Wish we got the big bad 6.7ltr Trucks here, i love F-Trucks!
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13-01-2010, 07:46 PM | #7 | |||
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Really does seem that FORD are going all out ..... later 1/2 of the year is going to be very interesting and can't wait to see how things pan out. GM in comparison seem to be mucking around not quite knowing which direction to go with 3.0 & 3.6 V6's, SIDI, Hybrid & the 'redundant' AMF.
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13-01-2010, 09:05 PM | #8 | |||
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I wonder how much power the FPV F6 is going to produce this time around with direct injection, I think it is going to be a weapon and probably beat the V8's (both Ford and Holdens) or at least Ford will under quote the F6 power figures like they have done in the past. |
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13-01-2010, 09:50 PM | #9 | ||
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I6 wont be Direct Injected. Pretty sure the current FGs are running the Euro 4 engines already.
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13-01-2010, 10:52 PM | #10 | ||
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So wont be direct injection, that sucks!
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14-01-2010, 10:09 AM | #11 | ||
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Does that mean that Ford Aust. will adopt powertrains available globally ie, dump the long 6cyl?
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14-01-2010, 10:20 AM | #12 | |||
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Ford oz have commited to the I6 and with government investment and their own investment to meet euroIV standards it is here for a while yet
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14-01-2010, 04:43 PM | #13 | ||
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More about the V8 here, FPV already working on the supercharged version. V8 is direct injection. http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2576A8000154BC
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14-01-2010, 06:05 PM | #14 | ||
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Wonder if the F6 will get a power upgrade? Something tells me it won't get one because of the emissions modifications they would have done to the engine, they should at least up the power by 10kw and a few Nm.
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Ford Australia should be assembling the Coyote here at least they can do their own camshaft and tune. Or better still why dont they just add some displacement to the Coyote and stroke it to 5.8 or something that would be a big boost in power and outgun HSV's offerings. |
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14-01-2010, 06:38 PM | #16 | ||
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V8 is not direct injected either, Goauto article is wrong. The engine is setup to take it later down the track however.
Theres a good magazine scan of the new V8 here http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11247463
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It wont be D.I (it didn't require it as FordUS got their 80hp/l target, but it has the potential to be. As well its already made strong enough for F.I.
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15-01-2010, 03:56 PM | #18 | ||
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OK but how can you be so sure, the GoAuto article is much more recent? DI would be a good marketing point for not a huge investment. Without it Holdem will just keep crowing how they have it and Ford doesn't.
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Page 50 of the link XR6 Martin posted will have the article. The info is straight from the Ford engineers that built the engine. I'll believe them rather then a 'Journo'.
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15-01-2010, 06:31 PM | #20 | ||
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Not sure about the 4 cylinder for the falcon... surely it would be grosely underpowered for a car that size and weight, even if it is a turbo! Or is the Falcon set to 'shrink'???
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15-01-2010, 06:43 PM | #22 | ||
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You have to look at the 4 cylinder addition to the falcon line up not as a performance addition but more of an option for economy chasers, not everyone wants to drive a falcon needs the power to tow and accelerate quickly, its just another market share they are targeting and they need the power from the 4 cylinder ecoboost as its a heavy car, having these engines as options is a great idea and will bring ford australia into a larger market that clearly the last 2 years the australian cars market has shifted too the smaller sized engine vehicles, its like the good old days when you could get the 3.3, 4.1, 4.9 or 5.8 as an option so everyones covered.
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15-01-2010, 07:12 PM | #23 | ||
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4cyl Falcon should drop 100kg or so, which puts it at about 1600kg. 175kw/350nm should be ok with that weight.
Merc E250CGI has 150kw/310Nm from a 1.8L Turbo, weighs 1650kg, does 0-100 in 7.7secs and gets 7.3L/100km
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