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Old 10-12-2005, 09:47 AM   #1
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Default How well is the BF selling?

For you guys who work at dealers what is the demand like? Is there many orders on the books and what are the lead times?

I know three guys at work who have recently received their BF XR6 Turbos - 2 x 6 speed autos and 1 manual. Lucky pricks. One of these guys is a one-eyed Holden man and it is the first time he has selected a Ford. He loves his turbo.

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Old 10-12-2005, 10:03 AM   #2
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It's selling pretty well right now. Fleets are snapping them up and lead times for some cars is between 4-6 weeks. XR's are doing pretty well especially.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:11 AM   #3
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Ive seen about 4 in Wagga already, most of which are hire cars. Local dealer has a fair few too, but then again they still have a buttload of BA's that will never move.
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Old 10-12-2005, 10:27 AM   #4
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I've seen a few in the last few days around Sydney.

Mostly XRs, but then I don't think I could tell the BF XTs from the BA's without having the two side by side to compare.
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Old 10-12-2005, 01:17 PM   #5
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I don't think I could tell the BF XTs from the BA's without having the two side by side to compare.
I've seen 3 BF XT's in Melbourne so far, the new front bar is the give away. Haven't noticed any XR's though, I don't think...
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Old 10-12-2005, 01:21 PM   #6
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i know of a couple of holden owners switching camps... one of them being my brother in law who is trading his VT berlina on a BF NA XR6 6 auto in lightning strike.(wooo cant hang crap on me about fords anymore:P)

ive heard there are quite a few holden owners being swayed into BF's
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Old 10-12-2005, 01:36 PM   #7
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....but then again they still have a buttload of BA's that will never move.
What do dealers do with such cars that nobody want - send them to the crusher?

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What do dealers do with such cars that nobody want - send them to the crusher?

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hopefully drop the prices some more so i can upgrade :




ive seen a fair few BF's in syd, probably close to 10 or more falcons. and that wasnt looking for them, and a few XR's
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Old 10-12-2005, 04:03 PM   #9
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What do dealers do with such cars that nobody want - send them to the crusher?

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Have a look in the paper, they're dropping the price to get rid of them and they're giving Ford cashback on all the older models.
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Old 10-12-2005, 05:40 PM   #10
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but then again they still have a buttload of BA's that will never move.
You are kidding aren't you?

Do you think that a group of people that actually sold AU Falcons when the BA came out would have trouble moving BAs?

The only REAL differences are the 6 speed auto and a slight engine power increase in the 6s.

If you were buying a povvo XT as a city hack would you save $5k for 8Kw, I know I would.

If you want a manual XR8/GT/GT-P/Pursuit/Super Pursuit/F6 there are great savings to be made.
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Old 11-12-2005, 12:28 AM   #11
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You are kidding aren't you?

Do you think that a group of people that actually sold AU Falcons when the BA came out would have trouble moving BAs?

The only REAL differences are the 6 speed auto and a slight engine power increase in the 6s.

If you were buying a povvo XT as a city hack would you save $5k for 8Kw, I know I would.

If you want a manual XR8/GT/GT-P/Pursuit/Super Pursuit/F6 there are great savings to be made.
it is not the car's fault they wont move them, it is more the dealer and their attitudes towards customer service, warranty and servicing, and price.
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Old 11-12-2005, 01:37 AM   #12
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ill still buy a BA in a few years time second hand obviously, unless the BF doesnt have good resale value... fat chance.
Ive seen a typhoon (yellow) and GT (yellow) but a few xr6's
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Old 12-12-2005, 09:08 AM   #13
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at the moment with the cash back on BA MkII's the XR sedan and Ute range are selling very fast, lots of people are snapping up good deals.
However there is a big enough difference in the BF XRs for me to warrant spending the extra money.
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All cars are eventually sold, or at worse registered as a demo and then sold off.
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Old 12-12-2005, 10:06 AM   #15
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I havent seen a BF in real life (livin in a small town)... Does Anyone know where i can see pics of a BF so i know what to look for when i go to adelaide? thanks...
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Old 12-12-2005, 10:30 AM   #16
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Saw a BF XT wagon on the weekend. Front bar definately gave it away.

Other than that, haven't seen any others.
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I've seen 3 XR's around Cairns already, all in Toxic.
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I havent seen a BF in real life (livin in a small town)... Does Anyone know where i can see pics of a BF so i know what to look for when i go to adelaide? thanks...
Here you go mate:

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its funny the type of exposure that different people in different places get to a new car, iv seen staks on the road in melbourne, most common are the XT company type cars but every now and then i pass a XR, seen a few GT's as well. Not to mention the BF XR8 i sit right next to while here at work.
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One dealer in Melbourne has BA XR6T Autos for $35k. If they dont move fast nothing will.

Seems the % of XR sales vs the rest of the range has increased massively in recent times. Awesome cars but no longer exclusive. Its good to see so much support for performance Fords though. Its amazing what more equity due to property rises does
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Here you go mate:

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In those two photos, the XT actually looks more agressive than the XR. It's a good looking front end on both cars though.
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Old 12-12-2005, 03:07 PM   #22
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Seen a few XT's but mainly seen the XR's. Seen one F6 but no GT.
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Old 12-12-2005, 04:16 PM   #23
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Two minor things I don't like on the BF.
1. The satin chrome that is now on the interior door handles continues over the top of the handle and to the door skin. It should be just the insert like on BAs with the satin chrome handles. Does that make sense!?!
2. The grooves near the XR fog lights are going to be real bug catchers. You will love the job of cleaning them out!

But if that is all there is to complain about, then there isn't too much to worry about.

Reading the BF brochures, I would love a Fairmont Ghia. The remotes memorise your seat and mirror settings. One push to unlock the car and you sit in to find you're in the perfect position! The epitomy of laziness...and I love this feature!
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In those two photos, the XT actually looks more agressive than the XR. It's a good looking front end on both cars though.
When they first came out I could've sworn the lower half of the XT front bar was a direct styling copy off the previous model Focus LR series.

Lately I've seen quite a lot of BF XR's running around, and a phoon.
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Old 12-12-2005, 08:39 PM   #25
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This evening I saw a BF XR6 ute in Menace with six speed, hard cover on tray and those chrome bars behind the cabin.

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And if you are in the market for an XR of any ilk include in the deal the covers for the front fog lights so you dont spend $200+ replacing them every highway trip.
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Two minor things I don't like on the BF.
1. The satin chrome that is now on the interior door handles continues over the top of the handle and to the door skin. It should be just the insert like on BAs with the satin chrome handles. Does that make sense!?!
2. The grooves near the XR fog lights are going to be real bug catchers. You will love the job of cleaning them out!

But if that is all there is to complain about, then there isn't too much to worry about.

Reading the BF brochures, I would love a Fairmont Ghia. The remotes memorise your seat and mirror settings. One push to unlock the car and you sit in to find you're in the perfect position! The epitomy of laziness...and I love this feature!
could you please show a pic of the interior with the door handles....i'm interested
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I see heaps of BF's on a daily basis, XR's and FPV's included... But then again, I go down the hume past Ford to get to school...

If you want a good look at the new BF FPV's, go to FPV and check out the showroom/gift shop/FPR race garage... There were about 8 BF FPV parked out front last time i was there...
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could you please show a pic of the interior with the door handles....i'm interested
Finally found a pic showing the satin chrome inserts...
Notice how it rolls over the top of the door handle...I think it is just a little too much. They should have stopped it level with the electric window buttons. See images below.
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I might sound like a major loser here but in my town there are only 2 BA's as it is and no BF's, but I can't tell the difference from a BA to BF... I am really sorry to say it, but what am I supposed to be looking for... Am I stupid? (I feel sooo dumb)
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