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Old 06-02-2008, 08:41 PM   #31
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Mate, there was a post on here in the pub about a cop car BF XR6T for 22 grand with 73K. There was no evidence of cops so I wouldn't be surprised to see that as a scam too, especially when such cars are seeing 35K. We should really regulate though the placement of cars for sale on the net from foreign countries, as its seemingly always some south african living in london who cries when that wench from today tonight or ACA catches up to them.
That was a genuine ad. The car is an ex NSW Police chaser and is for sale in a Sydney Car yard. Apparently it has some marks where the roof lights used to be and some interior faults. No scam this time, but it still pays to do all the checks before handing over the dollars.
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:11 PM   #32
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Maybe for complete eBay virgins, it's a bit of a risk, but if you know what to look for eBay is brilliant...I've bought so many things off eBay...

But as has been said...if it's too good to be true, it usually is.
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Are these people that are being ripped off the same ones that repley to nigerian emails?

A guy i use to work with would open and read all the spam that came into his in box
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:22 PM   #33
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Are these people that are being ripped off the same ones that repley to nigerian emails?

A guy i use to work with would open and read all the spam that came into his in box
Let me quantify a little bit before this becomes a slinging match of those who think they are better than others and those who genuinely are concerned about the inginuity of criminals.
Firstly, they were not ebay virgins, if you read the post you would see that they sold a 1959 Buick Electra on ebay. Furthermore, dozens of other transactions have been conducted without a problem.
Secondly, the guy who claimed to be the seller invited a revs check on the vehicle of which they did which showed no encumberances as per his suggestion.
Thirdly, the vehicle was not an immaculate 60k car for 10 grand, it was a 25-30k vehicle for 18 grand; not something out of the realms of possible.
As car enthusiasts it is easy for us to work out a cars value but as I said before, they have not owned Fords before and were genuinely interested.

The reason I posted this post was to inform others that scam artists are getting a little more clever (ie, less ridiculous) in their pricing and research. Hopefully, if you can put aside your insatianle thirst to attempt to belittle my relatives you may take something positive out of this and not be duped in the future on something that seems realistic.
As for Nigerian emails, you can rest in the knowledge that they do not answer those, but thanks for your constructive assertion.
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Old 07-02-2008, 10:36 PM   #34
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people see to be "selling" things for less as stated above due to the fact people are starting to become aware...
just because it seems like a reasonableprice, doent mean you will recieve it...
i won a bulk pack of simpsons box sets, for around 20 dollars a season it worked out, and the day after i paid, she was no longer a reistered user...
having said that, i bought both my xes off ebay, one from qld sight unseen apart from phonecalls and photos...
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:55 PM   #35
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i won a bulk pack of simpsons box sets, for around 20 dollars a season it worked out, and the day after i paid, she was no longer a reistered user...
For the most part ebay has worked out for me, never lost any money. But I have had a couple of experiences where the item is no longer available after auction end. Or the email saying 'we listed the item without looking it over properly, so sorry, weve just had a look at it properly and theres a fault and I couldnt let you have it like that, it wouldnt be right'. Or theyve only just noticed its missing a few bits etc, yet the pictures clearly show it complete and are date stamped. Oh its got nothing to do with the fact the price is really good for me. You know its a scam because you only have to suggest youd still be willing to look for yourself and they start acting like Mother Theresa as if they couldnt live with the guilt. The endless excuses are amusing.

There was once where the story was true, but the seller was willing to let me make my own choice. Either that or the decision to lie in the description got the better of them.
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Old 08-02-2008, 07:38 AM   #36
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Was watching a show on Austar last night and they were talking about changes ebay were making to their system shortly. Would you believe they are removing the "negative feedback" feature..............wtf? Now we will have no idea of the reputation of a seller, certainly a step in the wrong direction.
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Was watching a show on Austar last night and they were talking about changes ebay were making to their system shortly. Would you believe they are removing the "negative feedback" feature..............wtf? Now we will have no idea of the reputation of a seller, certainly a step in the wrong direction.
That's designed to give scammers a hard time by making them able to scam people more. It's called progress apparently.
Precisely the reason that I refuse to use ebay, it is past its prime and is now infiltrated with con artists and scumbags.
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:00 PM   #38
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That's designed to give scammers a hard time by making them able to scam people more. It's called progress apparently.
Precisely the reason that I refuse to use ebay, it is past its prime and is now infiltrated with con artists and scumbags.
Feedback is basically traded now anyway.

If youve got 100% positive and have a bad transaction, many wont leave any feedback at all for fear of having the other party leave retaliatory negative feedback.

That and one party (the one who should receive neg) waits for the other to leave feedback and respond based on feedback left, not the transaction.

Feedback should be kept from the recipient until they leave feedback or the time for leaving it expires. then it should appear, at least youd be more willing to leave honest feedback. Although thats open to abuse anyway if some tool feels like it.
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Feedback is basically traded now anyway.

If youve got 100% positive and have a bad transaction, many wont leave any feedback at all for fear of having the other party leave retaliatory negative feedback.

That and one party (the one who should receive neg) waits for the other to leave feedback and respond based on feedback left, not the transaction.

Feedback should be kept from the recipient until they leave feedback or the time for leaving it expires. then it should appear, at least youd be more willing to leave honest feedback. Although thats open to abuse anyway if some tool feels like it.
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:52 PM   #40
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yup agreed on that one. i just bought an $800 item from america... although i don't doubt it will arrive as the seller was 99.8% good feedback and 14,000+ sales
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Old 08-02-2008, 06:30 PM   #41
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Not good, really, it seems that every time something good is invented someone tries there best to corrupt the system and in turn makes it bad or harder for the honest person.
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