New Camry coming - watch out Holden and Ford?

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by MexicanBatman

Toyota build the best air conditioners is all I'll say!

Damn G6E with it's pretend a/c

Not really.
Drove a work Prado last summer, AC blaring on full cold, took about half an hour to get to a nice temp.
The air doesn't come out hard enough and it is not overly cold either.

My Jeep's AC works a treat, much better then the Prado ones.

Toyota reliability is pretty good.
Our old work Prado's (previous model) with 3L D4D Engine, lasted for 250,000kms with very few problems, We sold them at about 250,000k.
They were serviced on time most of the time, and everything was replaced as needed. But being a work car they were not treated nicely by all drivers.
We had 4 and they all lasted for the 250,000kms+. One even was flooded in the 2007 Hunter Foods and still worked despite having a nasty knocking sound in the engine when cold.
However the Holden rodeo with the 3.5L petrol engine we had broke down after about 20,000kms. Even after being fixed it was hard to start every now and then.

So yeah I regards Toyota as pretty reliable vehicles.

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by irish2

200 kw in a modern motor vehicle is not a lot for an engineering team. These cars also don't have lots of torque at low revvs which is what really kills drivelines. Ford, Holden and most other makes have to engineer all of their chassis to handle well over 300kw and a bucket load more torque. Even my 47 year old ford is pushing about 280kw at the fly through the stock 47 year old gear box, diff, and axles.

The numbers are irrelevant. I was pointing out that if you'd driven the vehicles you would easily realise they are not underpowered cars at all.

[irish2]

Originally Posted by SCUD

The numbers are irrelevant. I was pointing out that if you'd driven the vehicles you would easily realise they are not underpowered cars at all.

Compared to what? They are 7-8 secs to 100kms and high 15 second quarters at best. The peak torque is 336Nm. As I said it is much easier to engineer the engine, driveline, and chassis handle a measly 200kw in this day and age.

[XR Martin]

Aurions are actually good for high 14s

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by irish2

Compared to what? They are 7-8 secs to 100kms and high 15 second quarters at best. The peak torque is 336Nm. As I said it is much easier to engineer the engine, driveline, and chassis handle a measly 200kw in this day and age.

Compared to Falcons, Commodores, the models that they compete with.

[irish2]

Originally Posted by SCUD

Compared to Falcons, Commodores, the models that they compete with.

Falcons and commodore 6's are not quick either. The chassis and driveline of the Falcon and Commodore can handle far more output. So what I have been trying to say all along is that there is a lot less stress placed on the Aurion/camry than the other two. The standard falcon has 383Nm from 2500rpm compared to the Aurion with 336Nm at 4500rpm. The Fords' chassis however also has to handle the power of the 6T and the supercharged 8's.

[Poetic Justice]

Originally Posted by irish2

Toyota just build cars with no power so it can't break anything.

My comment was directed at the 'no power' comment you made. Once upon a time, 200kw was quite a lot of power champ so I don't think it's fair to say 200kw is 'no power'. I wasn't referring to anything but that, nothing to do with drivetrains or capabilities etc.

[irish2]

Originally Posted by SCUD

My comment was directed at the 'no power' comment you made. Once upon a time, 200kw was quite a lot of power champ so I don't think it's fair to say 200kw is 'no power'. I wasn't referring to anything but that, nothing to do with drivetrains or capabilities etc.

Well cars for near on 50 years have been punching out higher torque figures. Torque is what breaks things. Even an XB falcon 6 was pushing out 325Nm at 1600rpm.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Spudz27

My 03 Sportivo V6 is on 122k, I have had it 2 yrs and apart from the previous owner not servicing the trans and the dealer not giving a rats when they sold it, it has had nothing but services performed. Even the coolant has not been touched. It is still the same deep pink it was when I picked it up and has never needed topping up. My mechanic said until there is an issue he won't touch the coolant. The dealer service was to be desired. I must admit but, when I gave the dealer principal the invoice for my transmission service as I had complained it wasn't right, he refunded me.
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Looked at a current Camry service book, and it recommends coolant change at 90 months

[Rico 110s]

Originally Posted by EF_6

O.k so in your instance you got a bad one which i find very suprising....especially locking a cylinder.... Does'nt mean you can write the whole brand off.... It's well known that Landcrusiers are tough as in the outback and have been the benchmark for years.... How many Territory's are out there lol!
And what car do the taxi service use in Darwin because the other two 'local' brands can"t stand the hot conditions.... Camry.... learned that when i was there a few years ago! Mind you I do think the later Camry's styling went VERY bland but this new one may change that???

When I came to Darwin yes lots of Priuses and Camrys here but I have noticed that i am seeing some FGs making a comback, was talking to one Taxi drivers, and he was saying that it is 3 hour turn over for a Ford taxi service compared to Priuses 3 day turn over. And quite a few terries up here as well.

[GASWAGON]

Ye the driver i spoke to said they use Camry's because the 'others' would'nt keep cool with having the A/C on all the time and the hi humidity.... He never mentioned Prius's and i never saw any or Terri's either.... The turn around time you speak of would make a difference for them for sure.

[Rico 110s]

Originally Posted by EF_6

Ye the driver i spoke to said they use Camry's because the 'others' would'nt keep cool with having the A/C on all the time and the hi humidity.... He never mentioned Prius's and i never saw any or Terri's either.... The turn around time you speak of would make a difference for them for sure.

Sorry did not mean Terriies as Taxis but generally more Terries around.

[Rico 110s]

Off topic but their was an awful lot of Commodore government (Ambulance, & police)cars around earlier this year but everone I seen lately are new Fgs.

[GASWAGON]

Wait until next month there will hopefully be alot more FG's around...in LPi form that is.... Wonder how the new Camry's consumption figures will compare?

[Ford_The_Win]

Spoke to a Geelong taxi driver not too long ago and asked him what they're gonna do now the Falcon wagon is dead (95% of taxis in Geelong/Melb are Falcons) and he reckons they're starting to bring Territories into the fleet. So they're supported down this way at least.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

hmmm, i bought my first Landcruiser in 1980 and have had one every day since and never broken a diff, not only that but when we were racing limited sprint cars we used Landcruiser diffs as the quick changers where to expensive, 500hp through a dog box, only ever broke one and that was after a big hit with the concrete wall....

NOBODY used Patrol diffs as they would explode after a couple of weekends...

Apologies for the off topic...

In serious off road conditions the diffs don't have a good reputation. I've heard of a lot of them going bang out in the bush from the 4X4 clubs.

[Resurrection]

New Camry? Mundane motoring for the mindless masses.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

In serious off road conditions the diffs don't have a good reputation. I've heard of a lot of them going bang out in the bush from the 4X4 clubs.

Define "serious off road conditions" and which Landcruiser Diff's have you "heard" about going bang a lot.....

[venthan87]

I had a 99 camry, one of the best cars I've had I reckon.

[uranium_death]

At the release of these pictures, Australian sperm banks had a record Chinese attendance...

[Resurrection]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

At the release of these pictures, Australian sperm banks had a record Chinese attendance...

[csv8]

http://toyota-altis.com/new-camry-2012-pictures-spied/

[TheInterceptor]

I like the look of it honestly, especially the rear.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by TheInterceptor

I like the look of it honestly, especially the rear.

Yes, its quite a nice, edgy disign.

I think the Hyundai and Mazda sedan designs have prompted toyota to move in this styling direction.

[stevz]

Originally Posted by csv8

http://toyota-altis.com/new-camry-2012-pictures-spied/

Those pictures are of the current model.

[falconnut]

I hope its not as bland to look at as the current 2011 camry.

As a ex toyota owner i wish them the best but even i know that toyota only make the most generic cars on the planet :(

Except for Lexus.

[kaniSS]

Looks like a Lexus.

[csv8]

Originally Posted by stevz

Those pictures are of the current model.

The article says its the 2012 model and that dash isn't in the current model?????

[Brazen]

Originally Posted by csv8

The article says its the 2012 model and that dash isn't in the current model?????

Its definately the current model. The dash pic is a prototype pic prbably taken back in 2004. Pretty good that a car almost 6 years old can look like a new model.