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13-03-2006, 08:57 AM
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Hi people just curious i was watching the aussie saloon cars on the weekend and thaught they went fairly well saw on eof them with the bonet up and there all 6 cyls what sort of mods ect do they have as they appear to go quiet quickly ?
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13-03-2006, 09:54 AM
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The list of mods that you could do to a car are endless mate!!
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13-03-2006, 09:58 AM
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As far as I know, the bottom end is standard, they're allowed to port the head and they all run the same cam and extractors. I believe they run an aftermarket management system (Motec?) as well.
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13-03-2006, 10:36 AM
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Have a look at the specs for them here:
http://www.tascco.com.au/downloads/VT_AU_Regs.pdf
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13-03-2006, 10:38 AM
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Cheers guys and na wasnt thinking of doing it to mine just curious as to how modded they were as i was very impressed with there overall performance.
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13-03-2006, 10:46 AM
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Ok they all run the same cam. You are not allowed to do any changes to the ports (no polishing, no porting, no shaping), You can change valves, springs, retainers, and have the chambers CC. They are all 3.9L heads and the swerll is not allowed to be removed. The bottomend you are allowed to run ACL race series kit, Blue print it etc....
Trans is a EA/EB 5speed. And Diff is either 3.23 or 3.45 gears with 25 spline axles. Engine management is EMS Stinger across the field. |
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13-03-2006, 03:47 PM
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my sister went to school with a guy that racers in it, looks like a fun sport to be in....arnt they changing the series as ea-eb and vn-vp are to old now and they are going to ef-el and vr-vs
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13-03-2006, 04:21 PM
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they are not going to EF/L VR/S they are skipping those modles. will be AU vs VT
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13-03-2006, 05:28 PM
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i thought the AU dudes were running the AU heads? or do they have to retro fit a 3.9L head?
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13-03-2006, 05:36 PM
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I wish they would brink that series back to clipsal again!
They are in some ways more enjoyable to watch over the V8SC because of their 'no guts no glory' attitude. Plus you can relate better to them as you see them on the road everyday.
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15-03-2006, 09:16 PM
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25 spline diff's - bugger that!
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15-03-2006, 11:52 PM
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saw one for sale for 13k a week or so ago would be great racing
as its basically fairly stock fords n holdens racing door to door i love watching em |
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16-03-2006, 12:10 AM
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16-03-2006, 12:14 AM
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well going by the way they were talking the au's n vt's were running their standard engines etc
4.0 etc well the way the did commentry etc thats what it sounded like to me. |
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16-03-2006, 08:18 AM
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These things are pretty awesome, they seem to really haul for the modifications that are allowed too. And as with most controlled classes, theres all kinds of really cool sneaky mods that go on to try and get 1-up on the competition.
The main things that set them apart from your EA-EB1- Big Cebco(?) front rotor/caliper kit Camshaft (controlled spec) Engine blueprinting PPG gearset for the T5 trans Minispool EMS engine management (controlled spec) 16x8 wheels Control suspension package (springs/shocks/etc) Control race rubber Exhausts are free (you choose which extractors, etc) and all of the usual CAMS safety requirements (cage, seat, etc) I'd love a drive of one... - John |
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16-03-2006, 09:32 AM
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PM me John I might be able to arrange a drive in one for ya.
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16-03-2006, 05:14 PM
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Great class of racing & very popular. Interesting to see that their lap times compare well to the V8 Brutes. The saloon cars are actually faster @ some tracks so they must be getting some good corner speeds.
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16-03-2006, 05:24 PM
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El falcon, 4.0, XR6 camshaft, pacemaker extractors, 2.5 inch exhaust with tri flow sports muffler, AU TE50 intake, with K&N panel filter, Advanti racing Stalker 17" rims, Sitting on Ultra Low King Springs, 'Gabriel' Ultras Lowered struts, NOW MANUAL, 3.45 LSD 9.694 @ 75.38 MPH at Mildura Drag Strip 1/8 Mile XC Falcon project car underway...... |
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16-03-2006, 05:34 PM
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"13.5 Differential. A 28 spline "mini spool" must be fitted to the existing differential housing. It is permitted to fit mechanically identical replacement rear axles. The final drive ratio must be 3.45:1 for both Commodore and Falcon (tooth count 38:11)." Now will you lot stop crying about the longevity of a 25 spline axle?
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16-03-2006, 05:36 PM
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Bring on the lion...
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Oh thats ok then. Did we hit a touchy subject bout the 25 spline? LOL
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El falcon, 4.0, XR6 camshaft, pacemaker extractors, 2.5 inch exhaust with tri flow sports muffler, AU TE50 intake, with K&N panel filter, Advanti racing Stalker 17" rims, Sitting on Ultra Low King Springs, 'Gabriel' Ultras Lowered struts, NOW MANUAL, 3.45 LSD 9.694 @ 75.38 MPH at Mildura Drag Strip 1/8 Mile XC Falcon project car underway...... |
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16-03-2006, 06:57 PM
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Runnin C3H8 & C4H10
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How bout directing the discusssion towards how they get such good lap times with only simple changes to the suspension & a few other bits? There is no seem welding (just a roll cage & a strut tower brace), no downforce, no more than 4deg neg camber, no head or intake changes (save for a port match & bead blast), wheels on the earlier models are only 16x8, etc. Any discussion bout the technical details on the e-series can be view here http://www.tascco.com.au/downloads/T...cal%20Regs.pdf this is exactly as it is in the cams manual last year. It all seems so simple, yet it is so effective @ making these cars grip the road.
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15-06-2006, 03:36 PM
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Why start a new thread when I can dig up an old one?
This may be of interest to any of you who have mates with a modern falcodore V8. Check this out. (Sorry to those of you who saw me post this already in EB Pete's thread  : )http://www.tascco.com.au/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=79 As i eluded to in an earlier post, at Wakefield Park last year, the first 7 saloon cars (4 of which were falcons) qualified faster than the fastest V8 Brute, & it is not the first time it has happened. I guess the old E-series has some potential yet? :eclipsee_
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15-06-2006, 03:38 PM
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be sure you consider the weight difference between an EA and a BA ute (a lot)
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15-06-2006, 04:28 PM
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Runnin C3H8 & C4H10
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Spot on. Power to weight. Those new V8 cars are just rediculously heavy, & it shows in the lap times.
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16-06-2006, 05:20 AM
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Does Steve have a car?
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ignore post...
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