Holwoos bombed

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Gammaboy

I'd hardly call a Falcon a small car....

I think he's talking about when the Focus starts getting built here in 2010.

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by vztrt

I think he's talking about when the Focus starts getting built here in 2010.

Originally Posted by XplosiveR6

.......? He is talking about the Focus being built here in 2010......

That I was. :

Mondeo has already proven itself. It hasn't been on sale two months, and is already Australia's best Midsized car, in Diesel form from the (non-biased) NRMA/RACV group. Mondeo is also in the running for Wheels COTY, whereas the Epica isn't. It was eliminated A) Because it doesn't have ESP, and B) Because it is crap compared to the rest of the field.

Edit: I just thought I would add this quote from the Wheels site regarding Mondeo:

Ford Mondeo
A brilliant mid-sizer with first-rate steering, ride and handling.

[Fev]

epica is one of the most out of proportion cars ive ever seen. damn its ugly

[sleekism]

Originally Posted by Polyal

WTF..those cars are actually pretty damn nice, and handle well through a sorted suspension setup thats great in factory spec.

What annoys me is the supply line, I mean seriously how many times have we heard it! Happened with the Fiesta and Focus initially.

Yeah what the hell is wrong with Ford.

It took them 18months from scratch to create the Mustang and they were expecting to sell around 100,000 a year but were quite able to up production to meet the ONE MILLION SALES in the first year of sale.

They keep bloody doing this. They close down factories and lay off a lot of people so they can have full capacity but of demand takes off they can't meet it. Or if that fails they will finally make a good product that sells really well and then the next model update they will completely butcher it or change the name to confuse buyers ie. The Taurus.

Ford and Holden really need to lift their game and put some engineers on the board of directors instead of the corporate raiders they currently have.

[XplosiveR6]

Originally Posted by sleekism

Yeah what the hell is wrong with Ford.

It took them 18months from scratch to create the Mustang and they were expecting to sell around 100,000 a year but were quite able to up production to meet the ONE MILLION SALES in the first year of sale.

They keep bloody doing this. They close down factories and lay off a lot of people so they can have full capacity but of demand takes off they can't meet it. Or if that fails they will finally make a good product that sells really well and then the next model update they will completely butcher it or change the name to confuse buyers ie. The Taurus.

Ford and Holden really need to lift their game and put some engineers on the board of directors instead of the corporate raiders they currently have.

I think you will find that its not really a problem with ford due to supply, Austrlia is such a small market and so remote compared to most other western countrys, we will always be last in the supply of everything, not just cars, we are always last to get latest technology too.
Its not really a problem with manufacturing the required numbers, when a product is very popular the companies will simply cater for the market which purchases the most and will give the company the most profit first, then other markets will follow, its simple economics.
Wouldn't you sell to the client that orders the most products before a client that orders only a faction too?

[sleekism]

Well considering imports make up 80% of the market I thought at least the overseas companies gave a stuff.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by sleekism

Remember the Laser was a Mazda 323 the Telstar a Mazda 626 and the Corsair a Nissan Pintara.

Mazda market research has shown that the Mazda 3 buyers are mostly former Laser buyers. People didn't identify with the Focus and always knew the Laser was a rebadged Mazda so they all started buying Mazda 3's.

Also remember that the Focus shares the same platform and engines as the Mazda 3, so whats the difference.

[Paxton]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Also remember that the Focus shares the same platform and engines as the Mazda 3, so whats the difference.

Don't forget the Volvo S40/V50.

[Dave_au]

How the small and small-mid sized market has really been performing from Russ:




For sure the Holden Daewoos have not been selling well, nor have the Euro Fords, with Barina still outselling Fiesta, and Focus arguably doing similiar figures to Korean Astra, although looks to be improving.

However the trends also suggest that buyers who didnt like the Daewoo Astra switched to the Corolla and Mazda 3 instead of the Focus.

[sleekism]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Also remember that the Focus shares the same platform and engines as the Mazda 3, so whats the difference.

The Mazda looks good and has the "sporty" SP23 version and the awesome 190kw MPS version.