LaFerrari

[BHDOGS]

id say there both gone hail the new king the Pagani zonda thats the wild out there styling super cars are made off!

[buggo]

That poster that you put up Nikked quotes the Ferrari as dry weight while it has the McLaren as kerb weight.
While this wouldn't account for the whole 145kg difference, adding all the oils, fluids, some petrol etc it would close the gap.
It also skews the power to weight graphs, favouring the Ferrari more than it should.

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

id say there both gone hail the new king the Pagani zonda thats the wild out there styling super cars are made off!

The Zonda was replaced by a new model a while back.

[gozzaxr6t]

Beautiful car indeed the Ferrari is but like the man in charge of Lamborghini said, " If you wanna be someone, you drive a Ferrari. If you ARE someone, you drive a Lamborghini". One of my more favorite quotes because its true.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Fab

VW owning Lamborghini doesn't mean anything.
They're still built and designed by Italians.

Got to agree here, just because they are VAG owned means SFA.

Yeah ill take a P1 if i had to choose between the 2.

[Peuty]

The Aventador throws blue flames out it's exhaust. That's soul enough for me.

[RedHotGT]

I look at those photos - and to me it doesn't really 'grab' me.... BUT...

I remember being a kid - and having a huge poster of the Lamborghini Countach on the wall... For an 80s car - that thing was CrayZee.... And I worshiped that poster. It inspired me to dream, and was probably the catalyst for my passion for cars.

So - for youngsters today - what is 'their' Countach? Could this be it?
Or perhaps the Lamborghini Veneno? Or the Veyron? Or the Zonda? Or the McLaren?

It staggers me that these cars get produced for such a high-budget limited market - and yet we sit here scratching our heads why a $40,000 Falcon can't sell consistently....

So - I like the LaFerrari.... but I don't love it.....
But sometimes Love takes time...........

[Mighty Reds]

I had 3 car posters on the wall as a kid, lamborghini Countach, 911 Turbo and my favorite Ferrari F40.

[CSV_LS1]

As it turns out the Ferrari dry weight is not official but a tabloid guess.
These are the official Mclaren figures

Mclaren P1
DIN weight (kg / lbs)
1474 / 3249
Dry weight (kg / lbs)
1376 / 3033
Dry weight with lightweight options (kg / lbs)
1341 / 2956

The enzo was weighed by a customer at 1480kg with a full tank of 110 litres. Apparently the La Ferrari is supposed to weigh the same.

[peterr]

How many shopping bags would it hold,would it get over the speed humps in the car park ?

[Bossxr8]

What's with the stupid name?

[Fab]

Originally Posted by Mighty Reds

I had 3 car posters on the wall as a kid, lamborghini Countach, 911 Turbo and my favorite Ferrari F40.

Next to your Milli Vanilli and Wham posters.

[Mighty Reds]

Originally Posted by Fab

Next to your Milli Vanilli and Wham posters.

How dare you.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

What's with the stupid name?

Like calling an Aussie car the Anzac.

LaFerrari makes sense in its native language.

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Got to agree here, just because they are VAG owned means SFA.

Yeah ill take a P1 if i had to choose between the 2.

Would you buy Fords if they were chinese owned?
I bet a lot wouldnt anymore.

It means a lot cos of national pride.

[bangm001]

Ill just take a normal 458 thanks..

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Like calling an Aussie car the Anzac.

LaFerrari makes sense in its native language.

no self respecting australian car company would call their car the anzac - holden would though

Originally Posted by MethodX

Would you buy Fords if they were chinese owned?
I bet a lot wouldnt anymore.

It means a lot cos of national pride.

being german owned would be a huge benefit to any manufacturer - germany is where the pride in the job is . . . . not where lambos and falcons are built

[Peuty]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Would you buy Fords if they were chinese owned?
I bet a lot wouldnt anymore.

It means a lot cos of national pride.

Funny you mention that - Jaguar Land Rover are experiencing a massive surge in sales due to all the awesome new products thay are releasing. Wouldn't have happened without Tata though.

Not really a valid arguement.

[EDManual]

I love it!
Saw a 430 the other day, I think they look cheap and plasticcy... No wonder they have terrible resale values after just a few years. Funny, as when they first came out there was a waiting list and I believe they were sold at higher than list price!

[Bent8]

Meh, ever since the Aventador was released, I haven't seen a better designed and executed supercar from anyone.

And after reading this, Ferrari's reputation is not looking that great...
http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

[SS_01]

I'd buy the P1, purely because Mclaren's are more reliable than ferrari's. Btw, I love Ferrari's, F40 being a long time fav of mine

[XRFutura]

Originally Posted by Bent8

Meh, ever since the Aventador was released, I haven't seen a better designed and executed supercar from anyone.

And after reading this, Ferrari's reputation is not looking that great...
http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

Funny thing now is that Chris Harris is now banned from any Ferrari press launch or test drive. Just because he revealed how they actually operate.

[Cheese3]

Originally Posted by Bent8

Meh, ever since the Aventador was released, I haven't seen a better designed and executed supercar from anyone.

And after reading this, Ferrari's reputation is not looking that great...
http://jalopnik.com/5760248/how-ferrari-spins

First time Ive read that article , great insight and I can't believe Ferrari does that its pathetic .

[Peuty]

Yeah they have been doing it for years. Even in our local market. That's why you rarely ever see a Ferrari test or comparison in Motor or Top Gear Aus.

[gtxb67]

not really sure if i am biased or not, because i don't really care for either manufacturer where it counts, but
to me they look like a standard ferrari and a standard mclaren
one looks fast if not messy - the other looks fast enough but beautiful
one has vents and things everywhere - the other is just a neat package that has the curves in all the right spots

and surprisingly enough, the beautiful one normally comes out on top of the one that was designed with winning before outright looks

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

no self respecting australian car company would call their car the anzac - holden would though




being german owned would be a huge benefit to any manufacturer - germany is where the pride in the job is . . . . not where lambos and falcons are built

Then why are German cars so unreliable then?
According to the people on here who have owned them.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Then why are German cars so unreliable then?
According to the people on here who have owned them.

from the people i know who have them, they are not unreliable
there must be a reason why german cars, appliances, solar panels etc are held in such high esteem

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Peuty

Funny you mention that - Jaguar Land Rover are experiencing a massive surge in sales due to all the awesome new products thay are releasing. Wouldn't have happened without Tata though.

Not really a valid arguement.

But they seem to keep the TATA connection quiet all the time though.
Funny about that

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by MethodX

But they seem to keep the TATA connection quiet all the time though.
Funny about that

Not really...


Its almost a well knowen fact.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Then why are German cars so unreliable then?
According to the people on here who have owned them.

HA, how many here have really owned them?

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Peuty

Yeah they have been doing it for years. Even in our local market. That's why you rarely ever see a Ferrari test or comparison in Motor or Top Gear Aus.

Good on them. Have to protect the brand.
Ford Aus were always famous for doing the same in tests.
in a comparison of the base model falcon v commodore for instance they supplied an S pack. And the Falcon still lost.