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14-03-2019, 12:13 AM | #31 | ||
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Cyclones arent an issue where i live, and by over the line youre talking about price point, not property boundaries yeah? With fences and boundaries and all that stuff 25 odd years ago my parents had to go legal on our neighbour at the time who owned the vacant block beside because his planned house was larger then the block and tried to use a cheap lawyer to impose on the land on the family home. It was only a case until it got laughed out of court. Forcing the demo of a house within its boundrys thats been fine and approved for however long is just laughable.
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14-03-2019, 10:54 AM | #32 | ||
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1.2m x 3 sides = 3.6m
3.6m x $250 = New fencing for under a grand, sweet ! |
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13-04-2019, 03:22 PM | #34 | ||
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My neighbor just got back to me today with her first quote. Just shy of 4500 including tip fees. Going 50/50 i could work with that, not super happy making, but i could work with that. My neighbor said yeah nah not happening for that price. So old leany the rustic fence remains until further quote action.
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13-04-2019, 09:20 PM | #35 | ||
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I note the "per metre ex yard, no concrete, no nails, delivery extra" price at Rouse Hill is $28.50+
Shame your neighbour can't pay you to put the fence up. $1400 in materials and quick-set, good time of year to advertise free firewood and kindling. Yes, the hourly rate would look a bit rubbish but you'd be getting a lovely new fence from it. Better working weather than midsummer, too. |
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14-04-2019, 03:33 PM | #36 | |||
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02-06-2019, 01:25 PM | #37 | ||
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Been in discussions with my neighbor. She has got 3 more quotes. All around 4k plus or minus a bit. To knock a bit of that down she knows 2 people interested in the old untreated wood, aparently its hardwood. So now she is just seeing who is keener and will take it down for the wood. Worst case her son, the bloke who rents my granny flat and myself should be able to get it down in a couple of hours. Half the work is already done as its falling down anyways. Atleast my neighbor is on the same page as me when i say the cheapest quote isnt always the best. And also the most expensive can often be a contractor who priced high to not get the job because theyre busy and dont want the job, or simply just dodgy bastards attempting a cash grab. Sometimes you do get what you pay for, but word of mouth is what i find the best way. With the cheap quotes, same thing. Maybe its a start up company who need the work and want the word of mouth recomendations, but the risk of cheap and nasty is still there. One trick we use at work to keep wholesalers honest is email a quote request to more then 1 supplier and make it obvious, create some competition. In the same token clients often do the same to us to keep things honest. One other thing is clients often, and i dont think this is completely ethical, send my work competitors quotes and are looking for us to undercut them. If we simply cant because we tend not to cheap out on materials, we say our price but we cant beat that. And when the job done isnt up to scratch, dont rubbish anybody, but wait for the callouts to fix it. So yes the client loses out in the long run, but its their choice on the original quote. I dont want to be that guy.
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02-06-2019, 04:15 PM | #38 | ||
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Are you sure she’s not a quote hoarder, as in someone that gets multiple quotes, does nothing while they all get stale, then starts up the whole process again?
All the while either subconsciously hoping or covertly scheming for the other party to crack it and just wear the job, meaning the work is (practically) unable to be charged back. |
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02-06-2019, 04:21 PM | #39 | ||
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I read it like this.
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heritagestonemason.com/Fordlouisvillerestoration In order that the labour of centuries past may not be in vain during the centuries to come...... D. Diderot 1752
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02-06-2019, 05:07 PM | #41 | |||
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03-06-2019, 03:35 PM | #42 | |||
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03-06-2019, 06:28 PM | #43 | ||
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Correct, but the lady next door is also getting her back fence done too, so she is up for almost double i am. Its not like its an unexpected expense though. Ive owned my house for 7 years and the whole time the fence im getting replaced has been in poor shape.
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03-06-2019, 08:34 PM | #44 | ||
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Crowdfund it. Tell people you want to adopt a rescue llama with Asperger's, but need to fix the fences first, and seek small donations from lots of people on the window washer principle: "A few cents for my new fence, makes me calmer 'bout my drama llama."
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03-06-2019, 08:51 PM | #45 | ||
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Im just going to pay the lot for my part of the fence then work the rest out over a few weeks with next door. I dont care if i have to wait a few weeks to get paid back. Im not a charity per say, but being a semi decent neighbor i dont have too much of an issue with.
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07-06-2019, 05:55 PM | #46 | ||
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Just confirmed the quote we are going with. Im not paying the lot and getting reimbursed as the work cant be done untill the end of next month. Not too unhappy about the quote really. It was the one guy my neighbor has heard positive comments about from 3 people. It was the only one on carbon paper. So im thinking its not a young bloke, but if he is a 1 man show, that often means a more honest job. So for 42m of 1800 wood not lapped and capped total $3600. Thats including removal. So im in it for $1800. Not terrible i guess. Better then being in it for $2250 which was the expensive quote. The removal is $300 cheaper then the next best quote but the new fence is a touch more. If we do get someone who wants the fire wood it saves $688 off the quote also. The wheels are finally turning.
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07-06-2019, 06:35 PM | #47 | ||
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$86/m isn't too bad. Hopefully it goes up straight (unlike my mates side fence...).
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07-06-2019, 07:07 PM | #48 | ||
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Yes, well thats why i agreed to word of mouth on the one hand written quote. Hopefully this bloke is old school enough to know that just because the bubble on the spirit level is touching a line but still technically in between the lines, doesnt mean level. The young blokes i work with always blame their levels but never flip them to test if the level is true when they do a **** job. Its not rocket surgery, its just taking a bit of pride in your work. Maybe not so much for a fencer who is only in it for the one off, as fences typically last a long time. In my trade, a quality job creates repeat business, repeat business creates good client relationships, and good client relationships mean i get invited to lunch on occasion. So good work = free lunch.
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23-06-2019, 04:09 PM | #49 | ||
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Demoed half the old fence today. My neighbors son prior was going to borrow a chainsaw, but came over to borrow my circ saw. So i gave him a hand and the fence came down easier then i thought, and i thought it would be easy. We left the rear section up because if my neighbors daughter brings her dog around. We have someone who is taking the old wood so that and taking down the fence knocks some money off the original quote. The fence line is obvious as my block is 3 inches higher then next door.
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24-07-2019, 05:57 PM | #50 | ||
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So... Is it done and dusted?
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24-07-2019, 05:58 PM | #51 | ||
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Friday it gets installed.
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26-07-2019, 05:50 PM | #52 | ||
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So the guy doing the fence got my neighbors back fence done today (30m) and half my side fence done (42m total). He will knock the rest out tomorrow morning. He had a young bloke running gear, but he was doing all the work. Not that i was expecting a poor job, but he is doing an excellent job. Has put in the effort on every post to make sure its dug in 600, none of the hit a rock at 400 then cut the post down business. Has all the nice gear. Everything is straight as an arrow. The bloke isnt a full time fencer either. His 'real' job is in the office for a transport company, but thats 4 days on 4 days off, so for 2 off days he builds fences. The fence is a beast compared to the 2 rail 5 footer that was removed. 3 rails, 6 foot and every post, rail and pailing is way thicker. So considering his quote was $1500 cheaper then the other 2 from fencing companies, im really happy with this guys work so far. Considering he has done all my posts already and most the rails, i cant see the rest being of a lower standard whilst he finishes and im at work tomorrow.
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