Cash for clunkers down under?

[Full Noise]

So many interesting and valid points here.

Originally Posted by Fairlane

Seriously who owns a pre 1995 that can afford to buy a new car, virtually no one and what difference in $2000 gonna make when they are still 20 grand short.

Yup.

Originally Posted by pottery beige

Ronald McDonalds clown show....

Not quite. Ronald McDonald actually amuses kiddies and has some integrity. Also, he isn’t trying to send the country broke.

Originally Posted by Interceptor

brilliant idea, first bloody clunker that needs to be traded in and scrapped is that brainless bimbo gillard

Hopefully that will happen.

Originally Posted by bobthebilda

What an absolutely piece of crap, and a complete insult to anyone with half a brain.
Its just another Labour piece of spin to try and win over someone, and try and put some sort of green edge to it.

Sadly, many people who vote don’t even use half of their brain and believe this garbage.

Originally Posted by flappist

Hyundau Getz, $12,000 brand new.....

A fool and his / her money are soon parted.

Originally Posted by Fod

What"s the bet that the cost of a new car will increase by exactly $2000!!!

Probably more. Refer to the fool and their money above.

Originally Posted by GK

Agreed. They may as well be $1,000,000 short!
For sure. People get caught in a financial situation where all they can afford to do is buy a similar aged car, or keep repairing their current car, which slowly gets more and more run down. Another rushed ideological lamebrain idea from those who purport to know how to take the country forward.

There will be people stupid enough to over commit themselves because they think that the carrot that’s being dangled is just so tasty.

Originally Posted by Matt P

My issue is where is the money comming from, more things I have to fund for others.

That’s an easy question to answer. The money comes from the magic money pit, the one we throw our hard earned into every week.

Originally Posted by XRtowcar

I like the idea of getting all P plate driven VN and VL Commodores off the road.
Especially as they can only get into green cars.

Sadly this will never happen. You’d have a better chance of brokering a peace deal on the West Bank.

Originally Posted by xtgt1968

This is the part of the press release that concerns me. "Ms Gillard also announced new mandatory fuel efficiency standards for all new cars from 2015."

We thought that you wouldn’t notice that.

Originally Posted by BA Falcon

How is it costing the government $2,000 per vehicle, when the state government would be making roughly $1,000 due to stamp duty on a new car and the federal government would be making what would like be at least $2,000 in GST per new car. That's $3,000 of taxes that fall directly into the government's hands when someone buys a new car. So really is it costing them anything?

Bingo. The ultimate game of deception, smoke and mirrors anyone?
What they give with one hand, they take (with a little extra) from the other.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

A fool and his / her money are soon parted.

Hmm

In the last 10 years I have bought and sold quite a few cars

AU Fairmont Ghia cost $39k sold 4 years later $14k
FPV GT-P cost $84k sold 20 months later $48k
FPV F6 cost $81k sold 3 years later $34k
Hyundai Excel cost $2900 sold 4 years later $2500
Toyota Yaris cost $13,200 sold 2 years later $12,500
Toyota Avalon cost $ 12K sold 2 years later $10k
Nissan Navara cost $44k 5 years ago about to be traded for $29k
I will not include the plethora of EB/ED/EL sedans and wagons priced at $3-5k all of which ended up as scrap at the wreckers.

And of course there is my datto, cost $61k 4/2008 and was offered $48k trade on a F6E about 3 weeks ago.

It is not the jap crap and korean bubble cars that part you from your money when you sell them.

I suspect a more correct proverb is "A driving enthusiast and his/her money are soon parted".

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by flappist

Hmm

In the last 10 years I have bought and sold quite a few cars

That just shows that you’ve got waaaay too much money.

Seriously though, I was referring more to the Hyundai Getz and how anyone in their right mind would buy one, but I do see your point.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by Full Noise

That just shows that you’ve got waaaay too much money.

Seriously though, I was referring more to the Hyundai Getz and how anyone in their right mind would buy one, but I do see your point.

Well in fact I did just buy one.

With a 5 year unlimited km warranty and its fuel usage it actually costs me quite a bit less for the finance, maintenance and fuel then just the fuel and maintenance of the vehicle it replaced. i.e. it is effectively FREE (of course the only time I have personally driven it was from the dealer to the office when I bought it )

[Full Noise]

Originally Posted by flappist

(of course the only time I have personally driven it was from the dealer to the office when I bought it )

Even then I bet that you were wearing a mask just in case the locals might of recognised you.

[302 XC]

Its funny the cheaper end imports are mentioned
A local ford dealer drives one of these cheapies
When i asked why
He said they are cheap to buy cheap to run and for a 15K ish car over 3 years they hardly depreciated when say compared to a new commodore/falcon
If we look at "flappists"posts above
Im sure i can under stand where hes comin from
The cheaper import cars lost the less over longer ownership periods

[adelaidecrows02]

Originally Posted by 302 XC

Its funny the cheaper end imports are mentioned
A local ford dealer drives one of these cheapies
When i asked why
He said they are cheap to buy cheap to run and for a 15K ish car over 3 years they hardly depreciated when say compared to a new commodore/falcon
If we look at "flappists"posts above
Im sure i can under stand where hes comin from
The cheaper import cars lost the less over longer ownership periods

Spot on with the depreciation - I have bought and repaired close to a dozen of the Getz's over the last 12 months, and have sold them on average within a 2 week period of advertising them. They may be a car that I certainly wouldnt purchase, but man they sell well.

[zorbzz]

Originally Posted by flappist

Hmm

In the last 10 years I have bought and sold quite a few cars

AU Fairmont Ghia cost $39k sold 4 years later $14k
FPV GT-P cost $84k sold 20 months later $48k
FPV F6 cost $81k sold 3 years later $34k
Hyundai Excel cost $2900 sold 4 years later $2500
Toyota Yaris cost $13,200 sold 2 years later $12,500
Toyota Avalon cost $ 12K sold 2 years later $10k
Nissan Navara cost $44k 5 years ago about to be traded for $29k
I will not include the plethora of EB/ED/EL sedans and wagons priced at $3-5k all of which ended up as scrap at the wreckers.

And of course there is my datto, cost $61k 4/2008 and was offered $48k trade on a F6E about 3 weeks ago.

It is not the jap crap and korean bubble cars that part you from your money when you sell them.

I suspect a more correct proverb is "A driving enthusiast and his/her money are soon parted".

You could have bought some land with the money you lost.
I dont think you should use that as an example.
Ive sold quite a few cars in the last 10 years aswell but totally the opposite to what you done, I made money which isnt to hard as long as you have some sort of a brain when it comes to cars.

[adelaidecrows02]

Originally Posted by zorbzz

Because then you wont buy a new piece of **** from korea that only lasts for 5 years would you.

That statement alone contradicts you apparently knowing how to buy and sell cars.......

[burnz]

Originally Posted by zorbzz

Well you dont know **** about buying and selling cars.
You could have bought some land with the money you lost.
I dont think you should use that as an example.
Ive sold quite a few cars in the last 10 years aswell but totally the opposite to what you done, I made money which isnt to hard as long as you have some sort of a brain when it comes to cars.
As for this cash for clunkers ******** i think it is a joke for people that simply cant manage their economy and need a way to pump some money out there. Why not just give everyone 2 grand to get a free gas conversion?
Because then you wont buy a new piece of **** from korea that only lasts for 5 years would you.
If everyone had your attitude and bought everything from overseas where the hell do you think we are going to get our money from to buy this **** when all our factories close down and we dont make anything here anymore and thus have no jobs for anyone because ******* like you decided to save a few bucks on some piece of **** car from china.
Really ****es me off the ignorance coming from people lately.

so how many blocks of land should flappy own?? he allready got twenty..(that i know of maybe 21)
shurly you've heard of flappist, real estate/holding corp PTY LTD???

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by burnz

so how many blocks of land should flappy own?? he allready got twenty..(that i know of maybe 21)
shurly you've heard of flappist, real estate/holding corp PTY LTD???

Besides, the $140 grand depreciation listed above *might* get you one decent block of land in a semi-ok area unless you are in a regional area.

Edit: My old falcon (1997 EL) has to last me another two years or so until I finish uni and try get some money together working. Then I plan to buy a 5-10 year old B series XR that has already done most of its depreciation and save every cent I make to put towards a house.

And then continue putting it all towards that house until its paid off. Then depending how long it takes, do the same with a second property as a rental or upgrade.

Not planning a *new* car until such time as I have at least one property completely paid off, in my mind I wont be able to justify the depreciation hit until I have something other other then debt to my name.

If flappist can afford to spend the money, what he does with it is his business.

[flappist]

Originally Posted by zorbzz

You could have bought some land with the money you lost.
I dont think you should use that as an example.
Ive sold quite a few cars in the last 10 years aswell but totally the opposite to what you done, I made money which isnt to hard as long as you have some sort of a brain when it comes to cars.

Well I would like to see how an expert does it then. But just to make it easy for you I will include the number of kilometres covered.

AU Ghia 160000, GT-P 85000, F6 105000, Excel 53000, Yaris 28000, Avalon 21000, Navara 91000, Datto 58000.

All bar the Excel and Avalon were new (Yaris was a demo).

So what cars did you buy and sell to make a profit and how much did you actually drive them........

[burnz]

Originally Posted by SteveJH

Besides, the $140 grand depreciation listed above *might* get you one decent block of land in a semi-ok area unless you are in a regional area.

Edit: My old falcon (1997 EL) has to last me another two years or so until I finish uni and try get some money together working. Then I plan to buy a 5-10 year old B series XR that has already done most of its depreciation and save every cent I make to put towards a house.

And then continue putting it all towards that house until its paid off. Then depending how long it takes, do the same with a second property as a rental or upgrade.

Not planning a *new* car until such time as I have at least one property completely paid off, in my mind I wont be able to justify the depreciation hit until I have something other other then debt to my name.

If flappist can afford to spend the money, what he does with it is his business.

steve..some ppl buy car for work, some for play, and they will most often take a hit!!
rearly do ppl buy a car for an investment!!

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by burnz

steve..some ppl buy car for work, some for play, and they will most often take a hit!!
rearly do ppl buy a car for an investment!!

People buy cars for an investment?

Even a Phase 3 GTHP if someone has owned it from new probably hasnt actually increased in value once you take into account inflation.

Better to buy property, which is my plan once I actually have some money....

Edit:What I was trying to say, is that if Flappist is willing to spend the money for a nice car and take the depreciation hit, that is his decision, and from the sounds of it he can afford it.

Besides, from the sounds of it he does a lot of kilometres, the more comfortable the car, the better off he probably is in the long run.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by SteveJH

People buy cares for an investment?

this question is not serous??

W427
GTHO 1,2 ,3
maclearen F1
zonda R1
ferarri FXX
corvette 1964
mustang ELENORE
pontiac GTO judge

and so on...

[GT]

Gone far enough now. I almost forgot what the thread was about.

Gaela

[Falcon Coupe]

Agreed.