Tickford Options For EL FairMont Ghias???

I am in the market for a newer 'used' car, (the 4 cylinder Missing bits'n peices Magna isn't cutting it any more), and i'm trying to find out whether the Tickford engine / drivetrain was standard or an option for the the EL Fairmont Ghia. I already understand it was not for the standard Fairmont, but there seems to be a little misinformation from people selling the upgraded, upmarket Ghia. Was considering this as a better option for a purchase than the equivilant XR6, (which is an awesome machine even today!), but i'm guessing most have had a harder life. Interested in the clubs views?

[FRDXR6]

EL Ghia has the XR6 3.45 LSD and 164kw motor as standard im fairly sure.

Then stuff like the tickford suspension was an option.

[XR6WGN]

Someone on here may correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure the Tickford engine was EFII Ghia onwards. The engine was stifled a bit with a different exhaust and diff ratio was different but it was basically the same as a XR6.

The EF / EL Ghia is a great car with good levels of comfort / luxury and fairly good economy - there are some very nice examples in the showroom section.

Happy Hunting

Paul B
XR6WGN

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by XR6WGN

Someone on here may correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure the Tickford engine was EFII Ghia onwards. The engine was stifled a bit with a different exhaust and diff ratio was different but it was basically the same as a XR6.

The EF / EL Ghia is a great car with good levels of comfort / luxury and fairly good economy - there are some very nice examples in the showroom section.

Happy Hunting

Paul B
XR6WGN

Thats pretty much as I see it. There were no options, just standard XR equipment. Maybe gas was an option? I dont know?

Can anyone confirm what suspension they ran? I was of the belief that it was atleast XR springs, as I know my car sits lower than EL GLi's.

[b2tf]

EL Ghias had XR6 Engine as standard, as already mentioned the only difference was the exhaust which resulted in the power difference between XR and Ghia.

Suspension was an option and Im pretty sure it was just XR springs.

Bodykit was another option that was fitted by Tickford.

I think the diff ratio was actually 3.23, not 3.45.

[Kenster]

Originally Posted by XR6WGN

Someone on here may correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure the Tickford engine was EFII Ghia onwards. The engine was stifled a bit with a different exhaust and diff ratio was different but it was basically the same as a XR6.

The EF / EL Ghia is a great car with good levels of comfort / luxury and fairly good economy - there are some very nice examples in the showroom section.

Happy Hunting

Paul B
XR6WGN

Just on the question how many litres per 100kms the Fairmont Ghia give out with its fule economy just estimated about. The EFII/EL Ghia looks really great both in interior and exterior

[Polyal]

As per another thread, EL and Im pretty sure EF2 Ghias had the 3.45; its awesome...lol

[Kenster]

any chance of a link up to the other thread about it, interesting to see how the fuel economy like in the car

[OED666]

they had standard suspension, well looking from BI6TIM's when he first got it.

[Professor Farnsworth]

i'm pretty sure the 4.0 EL Ghia was 162kw - standard 4.0 was 157, & i believe the xr6 & 5.0 option were 165kw, and the XR8 was 170 - then went to 185kw with the EL update. The only difference between the EL Ghia 4.0 and the xr6 4.0 was an exhaust restriction, to make the ghia powerful, but more refined. As far as i know the xr6 motor was only put in EL Ghia s1 and onwards. May have been an option in the EF Ghia ?

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by OED666

they had standard suspension, well looking from BI6TIM's when he first got it.

Are you sure? Because I swear mine is lower than a GLi and its stock as far as I know. :

[OED666]

yea, BT's had some serious clearance... Since been sorted though.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by OED666

yea, BT's had some serious clearance... Since been sorted though.

LOL. Yeah Im not saying that they are very low, just not GLi spec. I thought a EL ghia 's were basically completely a EL XR6 just with a good interior
:.

I have some King SL's at the ready, so mine will be sorted too...

[Professor Farnsworth]

both of mine have been on stilts when i got them..

[Sundeep]

I've got a Tickford accessory guide for the EL Ghia's. Tickford suspension was definitely an option, not standard fitment. If you optioned Tickford wheels (sharkfin type) you had to option the sports suspension as well. There were 2 choices of tyres, they had a pov spec and then a top of the range Yokohama, apparently pretty good for their day.

There were actually 2 different versions of the sports suspension as well IIRC. There was a lowering package, and then another that had differnt camber/caster settings, upgraded swaybars and harder bushes.

You couldn't get Tickford LPG on the Ghias.

Sundeep

[Polyal]

Sundeep, I wonder what the codes etc are to identify the suspension specs?

The sharkfin rims you talk about, are they the same as that 2nd pic of fatnz's?

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by Sundeep

I've got a Tickford accessory guide for the EL Ghia's. Tickford suspension was definitely an option, not standard fitment. If you optioned Tickford wheels (sharkfin type) you had to option the sports suspension as well. There were 2 choices of tyres, they had a pov spec and then a top of the range Yokohama, apparently pretty good for their day.

There were actually 2 different versions of the sports suspension as well IIRC. There was a lowering package, and then another that had differnt camber/caster settings, upgraded swaybars and harder bushes.

You couldn't get Tickford LPG on the Ghias.

Sundeep

that's right yeh.. since it says you can have 16's on it (in the door jam, driver door) very few ghia's going around with those wheels from the factory.. they just didn't suit the ghia.

[hppsc]

Originally Posted by Polyal

Sundeep, I wonder what the codes etc are to identify the suspension specs?

The sharkfin rims you talk about, are they the same as that 2nd pic of fatnz's?

Nah, the 16" xr style are the sharkfin

[Walkinshaw]

So much mis-information

EF1 Ghia 4.0 = 157kw stock motor and 3.23:1 Open
EF2 Ghia 4.0 = 162kw tickford motor and 3.45:1 LSD
EL Ghia 4.0 = 162kw tickford motor and 3.45:1 LSD

EL Ghia 5.0's got the 165kw HO motor and 3.45:1 LSD (a better combo than the auto XR8)

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

So much mis-information

EF1 Ghia 4.0 = 157kw stock motor and 3.23:1 Open
EF2 Ghia 4.0 = 162kw tickford motor and 3.45:1 LSD
EL Ghia 4.0 = 162kw tickford motor and 3.45:1 LSD

EL Ghia 5.0's got the 165kw HO motor and 3.45:1 LSD (a better combo than the auto XR8)

mis information ? the only thing i was slightly off on, was the EF Ghia, that's why i gestured it may have been the 162, or been an option

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by hppsc

Nah, the 16" xr style are the sharkfin

ah you mean these ones that I am going to fit, or the FTR style ones?



I know the sportsman rims were optional on EL XR's, Ive only ever seen one burgandy EL XR with them and its looks bloody good with the optional kit.

[hppsc]

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

So much mis-information

EF1 Ghia 4.0 = 157kw stock motor and 3.23:1 Open
EF2 Ghia 4.0 = 162kw tickford motor and 3.45:1 LSD
EL Ghia 4.0 = 162kw tickford motor and 3.45:1 LSD

EL Ghia 5.0's got the 165kw HO motor and 3.45:1 LSD (a better combo than the auto XR8)

I think you'll find the tickford engines were 164kw, not 162

[hppsc]

Originally Posted by Polyal

ah you mean these ones that I am going to fit, or the FTR style ones?



I know the sportsman rims were optional on EL XR's, Ive only ever seen one burgandy EL XR with them and its looks bloody good with the optional kit.

the ftr style ones

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by hppsc

I think you'll find the tickford engines were 164kw, not 162

the ghia tickford engine was baffled more, and was 162

[Polyal]

Now now fellas, kws is nothing to fight about...LOL

I am more interested in sussing out the suspension business.

[BaYa]

Ive been looking at the El fairmont Ghia's lately for next car im gonna get i compared em to the XR6's and the only difference i could see was a couple of Kw's and the interior and the fact that the fairmonts came in auto only and the XR6's came in both auto and manual.

heres a link to the falcon facts which ive been refering to for some general info http://www.geocities.com/falconfacts.../elfalcon.html

[Kenaz]

EL Fairmont Ghias are the best cars.

[Stevo]

rofl @ kenaz

mine had ticky suspension optioned on, and from what i can see on the paperwork also the bodykit.

Thank you all for your imput. This has certainly made the choice at lot easier. Kenaz can expect my membership application regardless of my choice. I still haven't closed the deal on any single vehicle, but regardless of whether it is a Fairmont Ghia or an EL XR6, It will be wearing the factory body kit, have the exhaust played with, and be wearing 18" BA XR8 Replica rims with the body lowered over them. Promise to post pics and keep y'all updated on the progress.

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by SinisterHorze

Thank you all for your imput. This has certainly made the choice at lot easier. Kenaz can expect my membership application regardless of my choice. I still haven't closed the deal on any single vehicle, but regardless of whether it is a Fairmont Ghia or an EL XR6, It will be wearing the factory body kit, have the exhaust played with, and be wearing 18" BA XR8 Replica rims with the body lowered over them. Promise to post pics and keep y'all updated on the progress.

come to the v8 club, you won't regret it! And there are a few nice el Ghia V8's on carsales at the moment.