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Old 03-11-2005, 02:12 PM   #31
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Ill get punished for this BUT. good mate was a dog trainer in the army. just rang him.
THIS IS FACT NOT FICTION.

EXAMPLE: dog is digging holes in yard
REMEDY: have the dog go with you to the nearest hole, slowly fill the hole with water as he watches.........PUSH HIS HEAD IN THE HOLE OF WATER AND HOLD FOR A WHILE..... Once or twice , he now assimilates this with dying , 98% success rate.



A dog has his stimulative points as we do , pat a dog slowly from head to tail releases a chemical to balance and stimulate , 3 pats are better for calming this way.


dogs can only have one master to train him/her , after which one word commands will pass on to other family members


My mate Bill has been a dog trainer in the army for 25 years, these may sound harsh but are proven .

He would be more than welcome to answer any problems anybody may have as i can forward 'AFF' site to his email.
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:28 PM   #32
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EXAMPLE: dog is digging holes in yard
REMEDY: have the dog go with you to the nearest hole, slowly fill the hole with water as he watches.........PUSH HIS HEAD IN THE HOLE OF WATER AND HOLD FOR A WHILE..... Once or twice , he now assimilates this with dying , 98% success rate.

OMG! I dont think i could ever hold either of my dogs heads under water to punish them, no matter how bad theyve been! When my dogs dug holes, i just squirted them with the hose. Then they'd go off and sook coz they got soaked! That stopped them soon enough. Making a dog believe if it digs a hole its going to be drowned,... i could see how that would have a 98% success rate, but jesus! A bit extreme dont you think?
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:45 PM   #33
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She's got some fluffy toys, and yes, they die. Often. Innards everywhere. Our yard is a place where stuffed toys come to die.

All good suggestions and tips, with the exception of the hole digging one - I have no doubt that it works but this is a family dog, not an Army dog. I can live with a few holes in the yard.

And yes, we're walking her every single day - a 30 minuter in the morning and then another 45 minutes in the dog park with lots of other dogs to play with... so far only one dog has the better of her, and it's a well-trained German Shepherd. Anything else - she OWNS them...!
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Old 03-11-2005, 02:50 PM   #34
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And yes, we're walking her every single day - a 30 minuter in the morning and then another 45 minutes in the dog park with lots of other dogs to play with... so far only one dog has the better of her, and it's a well-trained German Shepherd. Anything else - she OWNS them...!
Thats not a good thing. Your puppy should be borderline submissive to adult dogs. But the socialisation is good. Try and get that german shepherd more often to put your dog in it's place.

But do the treat thing... just little tiny liver or chicken treats works well. Also try the 'dentabone'. Start with the puppy sized ones, they are likely to go through it. Then get onto the bigger/harder ones soon. To keep up interest in them, put a smothering of vegemite on them.

Get your dog to chew the right things, not to stop them chewing.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:01 PM   #35
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EXAMPLE: dog is digging holes in yard
REMEDY: have the dog go with you to the nearest hole, slowly fill the hole with water as he watches.........PUSH HIS HEAD IN THE HOLE OF WATER AND HOLD FOR A WHILE..... Once or twice , he now assimilates this with dying , 98% success rate.
Although I don't agree with the practice, it may stop them from digging holes, but it will also most likely make them afraid of water as well. Therefore making it hard to wash them or even letting them go and have a swim.

My pup has only dug one hole in the lawn, and after a tap on the ***, it hasn't dug any more.

Also agree with Parawolf, you should want your pup to be submissive.

If you encourage the pup to be dominant, it could lead to dog aggression further down the track, which isn’t something I would be encouraging, and it will more than likely land you in trouble in years to come.

Also seeing that you are in QLD and that QLD has ridiculous dog laws similar to those that the NSW Govt plans to introduce, someone only has to report you for having an aggressive or dangerous dog and the local ACO can or will come and take it away or declare it dangerous leaving you open to even more trouble further down the track if it ever escapes your property.

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Old 03-11-2005, 03:36 PM   #36
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Yeah, we're a little concerned about her behaviour in the park with other dogs, but since Simba's come along, she's starting to know her place and spends most of her time there wriggling around on her back while this massive Shephard just holds her down with one massive paw.

We like Simba. He's teaching her stuff that other dogs don't.
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Old 03-11-2005, 03:49 PM   #37
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Dog's NEED to be caught in the act if you want to discipline them. Say the dog is taking a whizz on the carpet. If you bring the dog to the mess, rub their face in it and say NO, the dog will automatically think "whizz on the carpet is bad," but they won't think "I'm not supposed to whizz on the carpet," so they'll do it again and again, and every time they see the mess they'll shy away because the mess is the thing they associate with being wrong. But if you catch them in the act and affirm that it is wrong, then they'll think, "Right, I'm not supposed to take a whizz on the carpet," exactly what you want them to think.

Very cute dog btw.
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Old 03-11-2005, 04:18 PM   #38
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Old 03-11-2005, 05:12 PM   #39
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My mother in law has had neverending problems with her two dogs...

The solution she found (after trying everything suggested here and it didn't work) was to fill a spray bottle with a half/half white vinegar/water solution. Shake well, adjust nozzle to spray in a stream rather than a misty spray.

Everytime you catch the dog in the act of "bad" behaviour, spray the rump with the spray bottle. They hate the smell of it on them. I tried it with my dog and found it worked well, now all I have to do is pick up the bottle and she knows she's done wrong. And I rarely have to pick it up anymore at all. DON'T SPRAY IN THE EYES! Big Ouchies. The lower back/tail area is where you aim, along with a low-pitched loud growly "NO!" like you're that big German Shepherd.

Another hint for dogs that dig holes is to fill the hole back up with a lump of their dog poo in it, then cover with dirt. They will stay away. Also you can cover the area with chilli powder, tabasco sauce or cayenne pepper.

As others have said, dog proof your house. When I first got my dog she ate our video remote, lots of pairs of shoes, plus other various items that we'd touched. We then had to keep her outside when we went out. Gradually she's been allowed to come back in as she's eased off the eating of shoes. Before I go out now, I close all bedroom doors, put all shoes away and put remotes on the top of the tv. All of us are now in the habit as we've all lost something special/expensive to her teeth! And it's worked, she's fabulous

Regular walks and playtime, plus 15 minutes of training every day (special parent/dog time lol) will see your dog eventually adjust to you not being there.

Don't hit the dog, that's not kind. If you find the dog responds to noise, another hint is to fill an old tin (like a Nesquik tin) with small rocks and sticky tape the lid shut. When you catch the dog being "naughty", shake the tin along with the NO described before. That worked for another dog of mine.

It is a phase, it is puppydom, it will pass as it gets older.

Adorable puppy btw :
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Old 03-11-2005, 10:00 PM   #41
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Keep going to obedience school.....the suggestion of filling hole with water is totally stupid and idiotic the army needs to catch up to the real world of dog training....the spray bottle idea good...the rolled up paper good,and as SB said lots of exercise and reinforcing training.

As has been said dog proof your personal stuff...and dogs are part of the family they just need to know their place in the pecking order....my dogs are inside dogs,so should yours be....it makes them a better family member.

Also it is a phase all pups go through...some longer than others.
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Old 04-11-2005, 01:59 PM   #42
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***UPDATE***

I'm down in Melbourne and the pup is staying with my sister-in-law...

Hurricane Maggie has struck again, but has been downgraded to a Category Two storm. She jumped a 4 or 5-foot high piece of MDF to get into the garage and has wrecked havoc on several batteries (car batteries, no less) and some glue-gun sticks. Latest reports indicate that Mags hasn't done herself any damage (until she "ejects" the glue, when she might get stuck to the ground) but is eyeing up the Nissan Patrol fourby, also in the garage.

And this is with another bloody dog to play with! Oh, we're going to have SO much fun with chillies when Mum and Dad get home. Yes we are. Oh yes.
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Old 04-11-2005, 03:02 PM   #43
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try tabasco sauce my parents had 2 huskys and thay where terrors and thay put that on the stuff thay chewed and thay never chewed anything after that
ps there farts were really bad to lol
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Old 04-11-2005, 03:27 PM   #44
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Is not a dogs natural instinct one of tyring to please its owner ?
if so reward the dog if it does something right, using a different voice ( stern ) tell it off with a resounding NO if it does wrong.

You should never have to hit a dog or resort to dipping its head into water.

( although in the military these training methods could be used to help save a dogs life and until you know thier reasoning it is hard to comment but i doubt highly these guys would do anything but have the dogs best interests at heart ).

If these things are happening then suggest that training the owner may be the first step before training the dog.

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Old 04-11-2005, 06:44 PM   #45
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..............Have a command word of No! or Stop! or porkchops! it doesn't matter what thew word is, and use that as a command when it does something wrong to get them to stop...........
I cannot agree here some important words and phrases for dog training should never be messed with, such as KILL!!!, CAT!!!! and Religious Fanatic at door!!!!
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Okay - i've got a REALLY REALLY good one for you.

Get yourself a 2 litre soft drink bottle, drink the contents, and rinse out the insides.

Cut a small (10 centimetre) hole in one end and put the dog food inside! Then throw this out into the back yard and let the dog get their breakfast that way. This stimulates them mentally, and they will chew the bottle and thats okay. Perhaps they will get their chew fascination that way...

worth a shot.
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Old 04-11-2005, 08:11 PM   #47
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You should never have to hit a dog or resort to dipping its head into water.

( although in the military these training methods could be used to help save a dogs life and until you know thier reasoning it is hard to comment but i doubt highly these guys would do anything but have the dogs best interests at heart ).

If these things are happening then suggest that training the owner may be the first step before training the dog.

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Parawolf's suggestion earlier worked on my Rotti X Lab. Though he still ate the Hills Hoist handle (literally). I also rode the pushy through the neighbouring paddocks while he ran beside me (started small and made it up to approx. 4+ kms with 2 rest pauses for a quick drink). I even had trouble keeping up some days! He hovered between 38 - 40 kgs (at 2 years old) with nary an ounce of fat and his behaviour was as good as, until we moved away from the area and had to rely on walks only with fetch in the park. Moral, less exercise generally equals bored/naughty dog.
He's gone now, I still miss the big buggar....
A bit of advice from a long-time family friend who's a dog trainer (obedience and security), "Consistantly reward good behaviour and always treat your dog like your best mate and they'll always look at you as the alpha male/female and will instinctively give their life for you, in friendship and in protection."
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Old 04-11-2005, 09:19 PM   #49
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Id recommend 2 words... outside dog.

Or "Shoot Dog"
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Obviously the dog's inquisitive, as well as active. I used the idea of the soft drink bottle, I found some fruit juice bottles less brittle, not too soft. The dog will nose it around the yard trying to get the dry food to fall out so she can eat it!

I've also had suggested to buy those clam-like kids swimming/sandpits. fill one side with water, then you can throw in a ball of ice, which you prepared earlier by freezing a balloon full of water. Apparently the dog enjoys pushing it around? I haven't tried that one....
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KEEP going to obedience they will train you to train your dog...if there any good....go to pet shop buy toys called Kongs fill them with peanut butter....will keep dog busy for hours.

Forget about harsh punishment its all about reward for good.
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Old 04-11-2005, 11:29 PM   #52
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How could you go mad at Maggie? Just look at those big dark eyes. Way to cute. Got to laugh though and I am sure you are getting a lot of pleasure from her even though Maggie is destroying everything in sight. Have fun, it will get better. Ha! Ha!
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