Russia v Ukraine

[Cav]

Originally Posted by LG17

Gotta give it to the Ruskies. This is their line at the UN - "We reject the untruthful allegations against us, based on staged events and widely circulated fakes."


Did they learn from Trump or did he learn from them?

Regarding Trump - the MSM is now reporting there was some truth in what he was saying

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Cav

Regarding Trump - the MSM is now reporting there was some truth in what he was saying

Shhhh....the ABC haven't done a week long feature on admitting they were wrong about the Russian collusion...

Trump haters still gunna hate, and call every one a wackjob no matter who the FBI convicts.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by wodahs

got no idea who your talking bout !
not that youve bashed on bout the same "i hate usa" crap in every post

No, I don't hate USA, I just hate propoganda.

In your case it's just Fallacious ad hominem

Originally Posted by wodahs

yeh we get it its ok that russia is doing this cause some one has done bad things some where in the past , so russia can have a free ticket on this one , and yes russia had NO other choice they were bated in to this and right the wrongs that might come there way by leaving their country to put a stop to things prier it reaching them

The term you are looking for is fallacious relative perversion.

Originally Posted by wodahs

wait ill finish this latter , ive some business with a neighbor ive need to pull in to line as i dont like the way hes doing things next door
im just going to go and saintly physically but non violently show him my the true way

Make sure you steal as much oil as possible on the way....
God is on your side so all good to go.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

It’s funny how the Trump Wack-Jobs are the pro-Putin Wack-Jobs too.

I’m tipping they are QAnon Wack-Jobs also.

let me guess.
your the righteous one, us v them..
Vax v anti Vax
black v white
Muslim v christian
labour v liberal

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SvIQaIgKiO4

[T3rminator]

[T3rminator]

Mariupol residents claiming they are being murdered by Azov.




And here, Zelensky making another parliamentary address, this time to the Greeks. The use of an Azov clip did not go down very well.

Zelenskyy speech at Greek parliament overshadowed by Azov video
https://www.euractiv.com/section/eur...by-azov-video/

The video of Azov Battalion’s soldier triggered the reaction of opposition parties as well as influential members of the ruling New Democracy party.

“The speech of members of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion in the Greek Parliament is a provocation. The absolute responsibility lies with the Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis. He talked about a historic day, but it is a historic shame. The solidarity with the Ukrainian people is a given. But the Nazis cannot have a say in Parliament,” Syriza leader Alexis Tsipras posted on Facebook.

Similarly, former Prime Minister Antonis Samaras said allowing this video to be broadcast in the Greek House was a “big mistake”.

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

image

Seems the vote may have been moot anyway.....

Russia quits Council

Speaking after the adoption of the resolution, Deputy Permanent Representative Kuzmin, suddenly stated that Russia had already decided that day, to leave the Council before the end of its term.

He claimed the Council was monopolized by a group of States who use it for their short-term aims.

“These States for many years have directly been involved in blatant and massive violations of human rights, or abetted those violations,” he said, speaking through an interpreter.

“In spite of their membership as members of the Council, they are not ready to sacrifice their short-term political and economic interests in favour of true cooperation and stabilizing the human rights situation in certain countries.”

[Mulva]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Seems the vote may have been moot anyway.....

"You can't fire me, I rage-quit!"

[MITCHAY]

Jump before you're pushed. It seems the UN is pretty useless these days anyway

The Bushmasters are on the way. 20 from Australia have been refitted and painted so you're looking at 5-7 C-17 flights depending on 3 or 4 per flight.

I hope that is just an initial commitment while trying to sort out getting more that are closer to the action and perhaps many more on the LHDs and/or C-17.

In other news Russia has banned a **** load of Aussies from entering including Scomo and Albo. They even banned the saint Jacinda Ardern

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

In other news Russia has banned a **** load of Aussies from entering including Scomo and Albo. They even banned the saint Jacinda Ardern

Apparently, they have also banned Kimberley Kitching

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Apparently, they have also banned Kimberley Kitching

Wow only fell of the perch a month ago. Sums up their incompetence if true

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Wow only fell of the perch a month ago. Sums up their incompetence if true

#186....

https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1808465/

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

#186....

https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1808465/

I’m sure everyone is disappointed in not being allowed into Russia

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

I’m sure everyone is disappointed in not being allowed into Russia

The ban applies to about 20 countries.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

25+ million smart phones in Ukraine and hardly any raw footage.

For that you require:

1. A working smartphone
2. Electricity to Charge it
3. Working Internet to publish
4. To actually be close enough to the action to video it
5. To not be preoccupied with distractions such as running for your life, or fighting the enemy

[Crazy Dazz]

“The speech of members of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion in the Greek Parliament is a provocation."

The Battalion has Nazi and Jewish members. Go Figure.
And they are dying to defend their country.

[burnz]

Originally Posted by CoupeKing

Massive war, Putin is retreating.

25+ million smart phones in Ukraine and hardly any raw footage.

https://www.********.com/video/zDQcSY1YmGwI/

https://www.********.com/video/o62BsfDKUXCq/

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by burnz

https://www.********.com/video/zDQcSY1YmGwI/

https://www.********.com/video/o62BsfDKUXCq/

You spent nearly 1 1/2hrs watching those?

[burnz]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

You spent nearly 1 1/2hrs watching those?

try not to.
sometimes their are hidden nuggets,
another US proxy war for profit nothing more.

[Mulva]

Originally Posted by burnz

try not to.
sometimes their are hidden nuggets,
another US proxy war for profit nothing more.

So Putin getting played? Got sucked into destroying Russia's economy and reputation - manipulated into punching himself in the balls?

S&P now say Russia has defaulted on their debt

[Citroënbender]

Ilcats now seems to be geoblocking. I’ve tried in Russian and English; same result. Don’t have a VPN to test on it.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Mulva

So Putin getting played? Got sucked into destroying Russia's economy and reputation - manipulated into punching himself in the balls?

S&P now say Russia has defaulted on their debt

Wacko warning

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

Ilcats now seems to be geoblocking. I’ve tried in Russian and English; same result. Don’t have a VPN to test on it.

Maybe they don't like you no problems here.

https://www.ilcats.ru/mercedes/?vin=...ch&language=en

[Citroënbender]

That’s good to see. I use it out of laziness, quite a bit.

Unrelated, I see news articles alleging that some Ukrainian troops or support have also been involved in crimes of sexual violence - disappointing but not surprising.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Mulva

S&P now say Russia has defaulted on their debt

US treasury blocked the transfer. Not because the Russians couldn't afford to.

[Mulva]

Originally Posted by T3rminator

US treasury blocked the transfer. Not because the Russians couldn't afford to.

Yep, they are really ratcheting up the pressure. Looks like some of the EU are finally putting in measures to reduce their reliance on Russian gas too, which is going to hurt Russia not just in the short term, but long term too as these aren't temporary measures. Putin's stupidity is going to continue to hurt Russia well after he is gone and well after the war is over (wonder which will come first)

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by Mulva

Yep, they are really ratcheting up the pressure. Looks like some of the EU are finally putting in measures to reduce their reliance on Russian gas too, which is going to hurt Russia not just in the short term, but long term too as these aren't temporary measures. Putin's stupidity is going to continue to hurt Russia well after he is gone and well after the war is over (wonder which will come first)

It'll hurt Russia, but it'll also hurt EU. They'll instead have to buy gas from the other side of the world. The US are big winners out of this. As always, the ordinary people (of Europe) will pay.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Mulva

blah..blah...blah.... Putin's stupidity is going to continue to hurt Russia well after he is gone and well after the war is over (wonder which will come first)

So now you are an expert at long term economics?

I know who the stupid one is (and it ain't President Putin so far.)

[Mulva]

Originally Posted by zilo

So now you are an expert at long term economics?

I know who the stupid one is (and it ain't President Putin so far.)

I don't claim to be an expert in long term economics, but show me one recognised expert that says this won't have lasting negative impact on Russia's economy.

If this is a US proxy war, then Putin is incredibly stupid and is getting played like a fiddle.

Why so mad?

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

For that you require:

1. A working smartphone
2. Electricity to Charge it
3. Working Internet to publish
4. To actually be close enough to the action to video it
5. To not be preoccupied with distractions such as running for your life, or fighting the enemy

Dumbest thing I've ever read.

Nonsensical.