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Old 20-08-2008, 07:55 PM   #31
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Oh that's great news!!! :

So... have you thought about how exactly Ford plans to achieve its objective, short of packaging an undersized, FWD, Camry rival and slapping on the famous Falcon badge? Be careful what you wish for.

Otherwise, it sounds about as plausible as Holden adopting run-flats + 16kg weight reduction and achieving a 25% improvement to fuel economy to its Commodore.

Boy there sure are a lot of buzz words being bandied around in the press...
FORD will bring in the LWB Mondeo !!!!
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Old 20-08-2008, 09:07 PM   #32
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FORD will bring in the LWB Mondeo !!!!
Well that might save 100kg at best...

Or how about this:

"Introducing the Bill Osbourne inspired, new-generation Falcon... made from corrugated cardboard!".
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Old 20-08-2008, 09:47 PM   #33
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Well that might save 100kg at best...

Or how about this:

"Introducing the Bill Osbourne inspired, new-generation Falcon... made from corrugated cardboard!".
100kg still bloody lot better then 16kg
Then you have the new alloy duratec motor probly another 50kg (guessing)
then you half way there . maybe shave a few hundred grams off every other part or where they could.
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Old 20-08-2008, 10:08 PM   #34
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I can't understand why Osborne wouldn't consider an aluminium body- the XJ series jag went from an 1850kg monster to 1550kg purely by going to the aluminium body n chassis and it dumps on everything else in it's class now. It also gained more features on the way. COME ON ALUMINIUM CHASSIS/BODY.

Spose one reason it'll probably never happen is it's that much more expensive... can always dream
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Old 21-08-2008, 04:47 AM   #35
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So... have you thought about how exactly Ford plans to achieve its objective, short of packaging an undersized, FWD, Camry rival and slapping on the famous Falcon badge? Be careful what you wish for.
Volvo actually has designed a way of pressing metal where it would reduce the weight of the panels but would keep their strength. Bossxr8 would know better then me whats going on over at Ford. But as the technology is there it is an option. Problem with this is the upgrade to the stamping plant will prob be high.
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Old 21-08-2008, 07:40 AM   #36
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If Holden are that worried about size/weight they should ditch the barge-like VE and start building the TT36 "Torana" showcar .. turbo'd V6 or 4.0L(ish) V8 would be nice ..
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Old 21-08-2008, 10:15 AM   #37
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Sounds like a big advertisement from Holden. Always trying to outshine and outmanouver a superior porduct.
And they do it time and again and Ford are too stupid to counteract them.
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Old 21-08-2008, 05:21 PM   #38
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I can't understand why Osborne wouldn't consider an aluminium body- the XJ series jag went from an 1850kg monster to 1550kg purely by going to the aluminium body n chassis and it dumps on everything else in it's class now. It also gained more features on the way. COME ON ALUMINIUM CHASSIS/BODY.

Spose one reason it'll probably never happen is it's that much more expensive... can always dream
You answered your own question, cost. An all alloy body would be huge dollars, not only making it but setting up the stamping plant to do it. The XJ is a 150k + car and the costs can be justified with the high sale price. Its not feasible on a 35k Falcon.

Have to laugh at the line where the guy says we will give the customer the choice between normal tyres and run flats and show them the fuel savings they will get. I'd assume they will give every salesmen a tiny thimble to show them how much fuel they will save. :
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