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Old 16-11-2010, 03:21 PM   #1
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Are you planning on driving your way out of setting concrete !!!!!!!.......
No, but I want Uluru in my backyard, so I thought it would make a good tow vehicle...
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Old 16-11-2010, 02:15 PM   #2
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To me they are a fine car and worth a % more than a normal BF. But not this money. That said it a limited run car with instant recognition so whop knows its worth what someone will pay. If the are paying $65,000 then that's the number.

Mind you the ute for $43k is good buying.

As far as investing goes, take you $80k and buy BHP or Westpac shares and see what they are worth in 30 years.
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Those advertisments reek of people trying to turn a dollar. If you buy a car and not intend to drive it then youre probably a collector with deep pockets and you wouldnt be selling it anyway.

Plus for the money I would rather have a new 335 GT and the resale would probably be better than a Cobra over time
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Well you would be "throwing your money away" if you paid that much coin for that particular car.

As nice as they are - they are certainly not comensurate with that sort of money. 50 - 60 K ....maybe.....and then you're encroaching into COYOTE territory.
Hang on Hang on mate...I know they are putting the Coyote into the Falcon but I have not heard of a Coyote Territory......I would buy one of them in a snap.
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Old 16-11-2010, 02:20 PM   #5
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Somewhere from 40-49K is my estimate market value for a used example..
There's a 1600k one there for 64K so that's an indication of the top asking price IMO.

Cant see why they'd be more than 10% above the equivalent Std GT....

Anything over 64K is getting far too close to the S/C GT IMO.



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Old 16-11-2010, 03:36 PM   #6
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Comparing these to the XC Cobra ???
When most people bought the XCs they did what they were made for
Driving
A small hand full maybe didnt,but gee even early 80s the XC Cobras werent commanding anywhere near there new price
Who bought an XC Cobra and thought ill just park this up for 30 years ,itll be worth "X" amount

Most of these later models BF Cobra owners are probably cashed up,and hopeing for a grand return
Or maybe bought at a large profit from the original owner and well still hopeing and praying

Id safely say theyll drop in price ,like everything else before they start the increase again

But if ya dont ask ya dont get
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Old 16-11-2010, 04:17 PM   #7
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the modern b series cobras are not two doors so off the bat they are not true to the original, also I personally would take a b series typhoon if I was prepared to spend that kind of coin being around 60k, if these are really worth 100k+ I wouldnt buy it for the simple fact I know how others treat cars in parking lots and the like it would be a heart attack waiting to happen..
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Wow. The amount of people who always whinge about resale values taking a killing especially with limited edition models etc and Ford finally has one that holds its value and you all ***** ***** *****.

Yes, it probably seems a little overpriced over 100k, but take it as a great compliment to a great Falcon.
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Old 16-11-2010, 05:08 PM   #9
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Wow. The amount of people who always whinge about resale values taking a killing especially with limited edition models etc and Ford finally has one that holds its value and you all ***** ***** *****.

Yes, it probably seems a little overpriced over 100k, but take it as a great compliment to a great Falcon.
That is a good point...



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Wow. The amount of people who always whinge about resale values taking a killing especially with limited edition models etc and Ford finally has one that holds its value and you all ***** ***** *****.

Yes, it probably seems a little overpriced over 100k, but take it as a great compliment to a great Falcon.
True, this site is never happy.


But it is an indication, the lore and heritage that the badge brings ads value. Add in the limited build numbers and it adds up to a 'special' car that will attract a high asking price.


The car is only worth how much someone pays for it however, and if poeple are asking for high (100k +) for one, good luck to them. If they think its worth it, and who knows, someone else might.


Go on ebay and search for hotwheels XB coupe, cost less then $3 and people are asking for $20...
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Old 18-11-2010, 09:50 PM   #11
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Free country.

Free to advertise a vehicle for any price....

Free to bag out dreamers....
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Old 16-11-2010, 04:42 PM   #12
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I like how some are saying it was a limited run of 100 cars the right abouve it theres one that is build number 111 and another build number 312 hahaha.

some people have no idea
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Def overpriced but then most of the muscle cars are to me too. If people are willing to pay the $$ good luck to all concerned, can remember back in the mid-late eighties a guy here paid around $18k for a Phase 3 in bits. Heaps were saying he paid too much - guess who is laughing now
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Old 17-11-2010, 01:27 AM   #14
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People that bought the cars to drive and enjoy the ownership experience will not care, people that bought it to make a profit, I love to see them get burned.....

Anyway I believe that FPV made too may Cobras, 200 like the GT40th would have been plenty....they were a great buy at 65K (new price), people that payed above that well they should have shopped around as there were plenty sitting on dealers floors that they could not shift in a hurry.

Those that say the Cobra's sold out quickly there were still brand new Cobra's for sale months after the release sitting in dealer show rooms. The GT40th sold out in about a week, but there is much less of them made!

The GT 40th anniversary at least had a purpose, ie to commemorate the 40 year anniversary of the GT Falcon (an important milestone, much like the 30 year anniversary and 25 year anniversary cars that still sell at the same or above new price today, condition depending), not really sure why the Cobra was released (I know it was to make money for Ford/FPV), but it seemed to have no purpose as such (unless I missed something)

Re the prices, well good luck, but I doubt it will sell for $118 in todays market, or for quite a while.....
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Old 17-11-2010, 12:18 PM   #15
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What's everyone getting offended over this?

If I want to buy a car and not drive it, it doesn't hurt anyone else. If I buy a new GT and spend a month cutting it to pieces with an oxy its nobody's business but mine. People seem to be offended because they believe some moral code is being broken if you buy a decent car and don't drive it every week, guess what? the car doesn't know its not being driven, it doesn't have feelings.

Buying a Cobra as an investment may not be the best idea compared to property or other areas but then maybe those people also want to be able to tell people "i've got a BF cobra at home with only 4K on it!". "That's a lot more interesting than "I've got a small block of land with 2 trees and some grass on it". So what if they don't drive it every week or advertise it for more than what people will pay, it doesn't hurt you.
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^^^^^^^^^^ very good point
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What's everyone getting offended over this?

If I want to buy a car and not drive it, it doesn't hurt anyone else. If I buy a new GT and spend a month cutting it to pieces with an oxy its nobody's business but mine. People seem to be offended because they believe some moral code is being broken if you buy a decent car and don't drive it every week, guess what? the car doesn't know its not being driven, it doesn't have feelings.

Buying a Cobra as an investment may not be the best idea compared to property or other areas but then maybe those people also want to be able to tell people "i've got a BF cobra at home with only 4K on it!". "That's a lot more interesting than "I've got a small block of land with 2 trees and some grass on it". So what if they don't drive it every week or advertise it for more than what people will pay, it doesn't hurt you.
Dont type that to loudly you will offend my GT it has feelings. You dont Sound to much like an enthusiast otherwise you to would talk to your car like everyone to scared to admit lol. The fact is when investing in things people must be prepared to be in for sometime for things to rise in value. Otherwise you are trying to inflate the market most will see this like everyone here.
It is the one person who is hoping to get into the game with a bit of cash not knowing a rip when you see one getting left sitting on an overpriced investment that will have to now be kept for the long haul as it should have been sulking if they find out by some other car nut bagging them out.

And the differance between an xc and the bf cobra other than thirty years and a couple of doors is the xc cobra was not a GT. The bfgt didnt win 1st n 2nd at bathurst and the bf hasnt had time to make a cult statis of anysort. Which all takes time. But the new force fed gt and gs is already flyin to the head of the pack in the new car stakes creating a name for itself.
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If anyone is interested in this one: http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=8784594
Give “Brian” a ring, tell him he’s a Greedy SOB, and offer him $55k. That’s all HE paid for it.
I know, because it was MY car.
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So someone pays 55K for a car and tries to on sell for 80K

Wheres the issue in that ???

Is that like saying ,
I sold a block of land 50 years ago for 10,000 pound and now its worth 1.5 Million
The bloke selling the block at todays value (or market demand)is a crook ???
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So someone pays 55K for a car and tries to on sell for 80K

Wheres the issue in that ???

Is that like saying ,
I sold a block of land 50 years ago for 10,000 pound and now its worth 1.5 Million
The bloke selling the block at todays value (or market demand)is a crook ???
Or anyone who selling a mint HO now for the price of a house who bought it for for low double digits 'back then'.
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So someone pays 55K for a car and tries to on sell for 80K

Wheres the issue in that ???

Is that like saying ,
I sold a block of land 50 years ago for 10,000 pound and now its worth 1.5 Million
The bloke selling the block at todays value (or market demand)is a crook ???
Whether he’s a greedy SOB, or just a dopey prat, it’s pretty much the same deal. In the current market, the car just isn’t worth what he’s asking, and I suspect he’ll have to wait for a long time before it is. It’s not that long since he bought it from the dealer, who couldn’t shift it for a LONG time. If he was thinking to turn an instant profit then he is delusional.

And BTW, I don’t believe this is a “Cobras Bagging” thread, I think it is a “Delusional Idiot” bagging thread.
Yes, it’s a free country; they can advertise, and we can bag them.
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Cant wait till 2020 when theres a heap of BF Cobras with less then 1000 kms on them selling for 15 grand lol!!
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Cant wait till 2020 when theres a heap of BF Cobras with less then 1000 kms on them selling for 15 grand lol!!
And why would this excite you.
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Because then ill be able to afford one and park it in the garage!!
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Because then ill be able to afford one and park it in the garage!!
I might starting saving my loose change ,so I can get one too.
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Just for interests sake, this one here is owned by Paul iowner of Harrisons Early Spares of Ormeau. Has been trying to sell it for a while as he kept sending me emails with pics of it last year....

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Just for interests sake, this one here is owned by Paul iowner of Harrisons Early Spares of Ormeau. Has been trying to sell it for a while as he kept sending me emails with pics of it last year....

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The one that is advertised for 118k - if you read it, then compare it with the wording in some of the "genuine" emails that come out of Africa and the like advising that you have alot of money to collect, you will note that the wording is somewhat similar......
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Gee a Cobra bashing thread....never thought I'd see that on fordforums...

I love my BF GT Cobra, the BF GT is still the best looking GT of the Plastics and the Cobra is the best of breed....and my name is on the dealer invoice.

Unfortunately you can't replicate that history.
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the problem is that its not like the old cobras. its simply a winter white GT with a optinal pack.
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