Ricky Muir

[cheap]

$200,000 x 6 years worth of prime A grade drop kick. How utterly pathetic is our voting system that allows Ricky to be elected with so few votes. A gift for puppeteer Clive Palmer.

Ricky makes the gumnutt twins look like brain surgeons!

[supershifty]

Originally Posted by cs123

They all do it, give the guy a chance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPmpswEJ-sg&t=90

Now that is **** funny - loving your work!

[dragons90]

4 minutes out of a hour long interview, keeping the cameras rolling in a break shows you they were try to make him look bad.

[pajoda]

New to the scene....yes. But he has had months knowing this was coming. What has Clive been doing for this time knowing he had him on side and was certain to face a media barrage?

[Lotte]

It's not clives job to prepare Ricky. It's Keith's. And given his inability to run the party as it is, he's probably done ten fifths of bugger all to help his elected senator.

You can go through all the media training in the world and stuff up. You'll still be anxious on your first couple of rounds with the media - especially if you haven't done anything prior to national as is with the case of Ricky. And it still won't stop heavy editing of your interview
Judging him on his first shot is like telling the new person at work who's done years of uni they're useless because they didn't use company procedures to the letter on their first shot at a data sheet.

[pottery beige]

Thanks Ricky for being our voice in parliament

cool

lol

[bungarra]

Everyone forgets, Ricky is just an average bloke who stuck his hand up when many wouldn't even though they say the supported AMEP. Willessee never showed the rest of the interview and I doubt we will ever see it. Talking to a friend at Seven, MW's agenda was to make Ricky and the others look like fools and a lot of editiing was done to arrange the effect.

The parts you saw about Ricky were supposedly pre to recording but got included at editing level to suit the agenda of Seven, Kerry Stokes and Mike Willessee.

Of course Mike Willessee has no bias given his son is the Chief od Media for Joe Hockey abnd they use the Willessee family company to do up their ads. Even Social media is decrying the bias shown by Channel 7 and Mike WIllessee who never declared his connection to the Liberal Party.

An agenda was set and the agenda was met.

[LoudPipes]

Originally Posted by bungarra

Of course Mike Willessee has no bias given his son is the Chief od Media for Joe Hockey abnd they use the Willessee family company to do up their ads. Even Social media is decrying the bias shown by Channel 7 and Mike WIllessee who never declared his connection to the Liberal Party.

An agenda was set and the agenda was met.

Like it or not, that's politics.
If he wants to play with the big boys he has to accept the fact he will always be baited.
He has to be well prepared in advance.

[Maka]

Originally Posted by bungarra

Talking to a friend at Seven, MW's agenda was to make Ricky and the others look like fools and a lot of editiing was done to arrange the effect.

The parts you saw about Ricky were supposedly pre to recording but got included at editing level to suit the agenda of Seven, Kerry Stokes and Mike Willessee.

Of course Mike Willessee has no bias given his son is the Chief od Media for Joe Hockey abnd they use the Willessee family company to do up their ads. Even Social media is decrying the bias shown by Channel 7 and Mike WIllessee who never declared his connection to the Liberal Party.

An agenda was set and the agenda was met.

Highly plausible in this day & age unfortunately, just highlights the fact that you cant trust everything you read, hear & see in the media on face value alone!

cheers, Maka

[BHDOGS]

wow 200,000 thats tax payer money well spent we have a budget emergency apparently but can waste that money on this useless twat for the next four years not to mention the free trips and free car and everything else they leeches suck of the tax payers while the rest of us eat dirt.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

See, my take on this appears to be slightly different to everyone else's so far.

To me, Ricky appeared to be reciting learnt script. On a subject that should not need to have verbatim recitation of exact script, because he should live this stuff.

Sure, he froze, but not just because of the cameras, questioning, etc it was because he forgot his scripted lines.

And I am not naive enough to believe that politicians who have passion for a particular subject don't use a script, but surely, if you are actually passionate about a subject, if you forget the script, you can simply improvise and say what you want without it.

What worries me the most about all of this, is who is Ricky actually the puppet for? Who wrote the script for him, thereby effectively telling him what to say. Personally, I think this is what MW was trying to get out of the interview process that aired.

Craig H

[Dash_XR]

Originally Posted by psychobimbo

See, my take on this appears to be slightly different to everyone else's so far.

To me, Ricky appeared to be reciting learnt script. On a subject that should not need to have verbatim recitation of exact script, because he should live this stuff.

Sure, he froze, but not just because of the cameras, questioning, etc it was because he forgot his scripted lines.

And I am not naive enough to believe that politicians who have passion for a particular subject don't use a script, but surely, if you are actually passionate about a subject, if you forget the script, you can simply improvise and say what you want without it.

What worries me the most about all of this, is who is Ricky actually the puppet for? Who wrote the script for him, thereby effectively telling him what to say. Personally, I think this is what MW was trying to get out of the interview process that aired.

Craig H

That's exactly what I was thinking, he has obviously prepared very direct answers rather then loose ones that he can corrected on the fly. I also would of thought that a true enthusiast would be able to answer a basic question like that without to much trouble but maybe it was just nerves and poor preparation.

I doubt he'll see much action in question time and people won't attack him in case they do need him later on.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by psychobimbo

See, my take on this appears to be slightly different to everyone else's so far.

To me, Ricky appeared to be reciting learnt script. On a subject that should not need to have verbatim recitation of exact script, because he should live this stuff.

Sure, he froze, but not just because of the cameras, questioning, etc it was because he forgot his scripted lines.

And I am not naive enough to believe that politicians who have passion for a particular subject don't use a script, but surely, if you are actually passionate about a subject, if you forget the script, you can simply improvise and say what you want without it.

What worries me the most about all of this, is who is Ricky actually the puppet for? Who wrote the script for him, thereby effectively telling him what to say. Personally, I think this is what MW was trying to get out of the interview process that aired.

Craig H

Great observation and having watched it again I tend to agree. He gets completely mixed up and you see him searching for answers from the script in his head. When asked about the balance of power his answer in the end is blurted out as if it was a maths test.

Whilst I see some benifit of having "ordinary" people having a go at politics, there should be some minimum qualifications before one is able to run for office so we can weed out people like this. I can't be a doctor or a lawyer or even a mechanic without qualifications, yet a dip sh...it like this can hold a position of power in politics that could affect the fuure of this country.

[Grunter]

Originally Posted by Stefan

Great observation and having watched it again I tend to agree. He gets completely mixed up and you see him searching for answers from the script in his head. When asked about the balance of power his answer in the end is blurted out as if it was a maths test.

Whilst I see some benifit of having "ordinary" people having a go at politics, there should be some minimum qualifications before one is able to run for office so we can weed out people like this. I can't be a doctor or a lawyer or even a mechanic without qualifications, yet a dip sh...it like this can hold a position of power in politics that could affect the fuure of this country.

How would you apply qualifications to be able to talk crap, answer nothing directly and blame everybody but yourself?

I cover most of those now. Where do I sign up!

[Pugsley100]

Originally Posted by Grunter

How would you apply qualifications to be able to talk crap, answer nothing directly and blame everybody but yourself?

I cover most of those now. Where do I sign up!

If you want to be a pollie from a major party you need to memorise the daily talking points and when asked a question, you don't answer that question.
Instead you answer a completely different question. The one that you have rehearsed the answer for that relates to the daily talking points given to you on a sheet.

[EBII Fairmont]

Originally Posted by BHDOGS

wow 200,000 thats tax payer money well spent we have a budget emergency apparently but can waste that money on this useless twat for the next four years not to mention the free trips and free car and everything else they leeches suck of the tax payers while the rest of us eat dirt.

$200,000 over the next couple of years is nothing in comparison to the $12.4bn being thrown away on American aircrafts for our air force which have computer glitches. Yet our economy is apparently up the *****. Where does any of it add up???

[Trevor 57]

You run Ricky Muir down, but point to anyone of the major Parties as individuals, not spoon fed the Party bullshit that they have to spruik regardless and they will all be the same as Ricky, here are a couple of outstanding Liberal candidates who WERE spoon fed and still managed to **** it up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9i9OQHkpOM



and who could forget these doosie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lpGP50CSBw

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

You run Ricky Muir down, but point to anyone of the major Parties as individuals, not spoon fed the Party bullshit that they have to spruik regardless and they will all be the same as Ricky, here are a couple of outstanding Liberal candidates who WERE spoon fed and still managed to **** it up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9i9OQHkpOM



and who could forget these doosie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lpGP50CSBw

just do us a favour and dont let that retate near a camera again

back to the wood yard retate

[noflac52]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

just do us a favour and dont let that retate near a camera again

back to the wood yard retate

This is interesting!

Someone calling someone else a retard and can't even spell it!

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by noflac52

This is interesting!

Someone calling someone else a retard and can't even spell it!

yo on the ball tonight *******

see what i did there....

[noflac52]

Originally Posted by pottery beige

yo on the ball tonight *******

see what i did there....

Yeah I did!

That's the irony of it!

You made yourself look like one.

[Franco Cozzo]

Give the guy a chance, watch what he does when he is part of the senate rather than judging a new guy who found himself in the big boy league on his first few media appearances.

I'm sure Uncle Clive will give him some advice.

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Give the guy a chance, watch what he does when he is part of the senate rather than judging a new guy who found himself in the big boy league on his first few media appearances.

I'm sure Uncle Clive will give him some advice.

wtf has he been doing for the last eight months

step up or gtfo

[cheap]

Give the guy a chance, boo hoo. Naughty Mike Willesee, boo hoo. After market industry, boo hoo. The saw mill was a friendlier place, boo hoo.




People need to watch the video clips, he and the others are nothing more than Clive's bitches, in the background you can hear Clive telling them what to say! What a collection of imbeciles, I though Lazarus had more integrity, obviously not.

[calzone]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Give the guy a chance, watch what he does when he is part of the senate rather than judging a new guy who found himself in the big boy league on his first few media appearances.

I'm sure Uncle Clive will give him some advice.

This is where its so wrong, on the back of less than 500 votes he is now in the "Big League" , holding the balance of power and he speaks and can influence decisions for more than 22million of us.................

[ozpacman]

Originally Posted by calzone

This is where its so wrong, on the back of less than 500 votes he is now in the "Big League" , holding the balance of power and he speaks and can influence decisions for more than 22million of us.................

Exactly calzone. He can directly influence the balance of power and has known that since the election - damn shame he hasn't bothered to get a handle on what it actually means.

I hope the saws at that mill are a bit sharper than some of the workers . . .

[dragons90]

working full time

[pottery beige]

Originally Posted by dragons90

working full time

would have got more sense going down the wood yard and talking to a block of wood

[bungarra]

Amazing how evreyone is bagging Ricky, yet when AMEP were looking for people to run and many on here were saying it was a great idea, who actually put up their hands????

None of you on here bleating away but the looks of it.

When you put your hand up to support the formation of AMEP, you could have done more by putting your hand up but as more often than not in the car scene, everyone wants but never wants to do anything. Stick your hand up in 3 years time for AMEP or any other party your affiliated to and show you can do a better job, otherwise your just as bad as the media and their bias.

[Focused]

Originally Posted by bungarra

Amazing how evreyone is bagging Ricky, yet when AMEP were looking for people to run and many on here were saying it was a great idea, who actually put up their hands????

None of you on here bleating away but the looks of it.

When you put your hand up to support the formation of AMEP, you could have done more by putting your hand up but as more often than not in the car scene, everyone wants but never wants to do anything. Stick your hand up in 3 years time for AMEP or any other party your affiliated to and show you can do a better job, otherwise your just as bad as the media and their bias.

It seems that bogans are like hyenas, as soon as one of their own is down, they all disown him and start kicking...

I'm not a fan of the system that got Ricky Muir (or any of the other clowns that did preference deals) into parliament, but anyone can go blank when put on the spot. I've done it and if any of you guys criticizing had ever done anything out of your comfort zone, you'd probably have gone blank before too...