2016 Focus RS discussion

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by partsguy

Not normally. 250 hp seems a lot short of the 305 that the mk2 had and 350ps listed in the parts catalogue


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Yeah i think 350 is more realistic.

[FPV GTHO]

Originally Posted by Polyal

What will be interesting is the price.

Given a Mustang 5.0 will be somewhere from $60-70k will they make the RS come in lower?

Different segments perhaps but surely they wouldnt make it to similar to the Mustang price?

The RS itself is a bit more special than a standard Mustang GT, but I think it will be quite different between the 2 Based on region. Traditional Euro LHD markets I'd imagine will see the Mustang GT more expensive, the US I think the RS will be more expensive. RHD markets could be close.

[Wretched]

Jalopnik speculation found below
http://jalopnik.com/2016-ford-focus-...-it-1683404018

[DJM83]

Ahhhh was beaten by the above link

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

The RS itself is a bit more special than a standard Mustang GT, but I think it will be quite different between the 2 Based on region. Traditional Euro LHD markets I'd imagine will see the Mustang GT more expensive, the US I think the RS will be more expensive. RHD markets could be close.

Yeah I dont disagree, but I have a feeling the last RS wasnt a roaring success here (wasnt it cira $75k?).

It will be worth more to certain people but it will be interesting as to how they pitch it here.

[DJM83]

I dont think Ford had any trouble shifting the MK2 RS. mid 60k was the price or there abouts, and they have held their value well. If the new Mustang and Focus RS are similarly priced, i know which one id choose and it doesnt have 2 doors. I do like the new mustang though.

More interestingly though will it be built in Michigan aswell as Saarlouis? Sounds petty i know but for me it takes away some specialness if its built somewhere other than the heart of ST/RS territory.

[FPV GTHO]

I would think if they want it to sell in good numbers in the US they would have to build them there too.

Do any of the M, AMG or RS cars get built in America or do they all come out of Germany?

[Wretched]

from the link above, cannot verify the legitimacy.

[DJM83]

That is interesting indeed.

[DJM83]

RS mule

[MAGPIE]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

The RS itself is a bit more special than a standard Mustang GT, but I think it will be quite different between the 2 Based on region. Traditional Euro LHD markets I'd imagine will see the Mustang GT more expensive, the US I think the RS will be more expensive. RHD markets could be close.

You can't compare a Focus RS to a Mustang GT...

RS is the pinnacle of the Focus range, compare it to the pinnacle of the Mustang range and I'm fairly sure most would say the Mustang is a lot more special.

I loved the last RS but seeing one next to a 13 GT500 leaves no doubt as to what is "more special".

The new model will be no different, compare it to the GT350R.

[FPV GTHO]

Why not compare it to the Raptor as well?

The question wasn't originally about which was best, but about price. As special as the Focus RS is, it's still a small car, which will bring the price down compared to other psycho Ford's.

[MAGPIE]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

Why not compare it to the Raptor as well?

The question wasn't originally about which was best, but about price. As special as the Focus RS is, it's still a small car, which will bring the price down compared to other psycho Ford's.

Raptor is not a car, it is a truck

I never said either/or was best


Oh and for what it's worth I would rather have a RS Focus over any other of the hot hatch competition.

[marg99]

Plus it looses its rarity value if they start making it a regular production car.
difficult decision

[newi]

Stayed up to watch the launch on http://www.gofurtherlive.com/.... Website crashes just as it went live. Excellent work Ford.....

[DJM83]

Cannot say im disappointed at all, i love it.

[partsguy]

Nice, did they release any mechanical details at this stage?


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[Polyal]

Yeah it looks good...no bonnet vents? :( Kind of like that old throw back to Cossies (yanks probably have NFI).

Its got a bit of Golf R about it but it looks good.

[Martyvan]

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fo...nd-over-318bhp

[Martyvan]

Looks awesome. I wouldnt mind a powershift.... but i doubt that will happen.

[Wretched]

sounds alright too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-mhyUAaqE

[DJM83]

I agree. Also do yourselves a favour and go to the gofurtherlive.com and watch the full unveil its awesome.

Hearing the Ford Sat nav voice made me thinking nekminnet he be in the river

[FPV8U]

Looks great and on paper it's an impressive car, I'm keen on the Mustang but AWD and the potential of the Ecoboost is a pretty tempting combination.

[Cheese3]

Being 4 doors is awesome!

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by DJM83

I agree. Also do yourselves a favour and go to the gofurtherlive.com and watch the full unveil its awesome.

Hearing the Ford Sat nav voice made me thinking nekminnet he be in the river

One of the best Ford launches Ive seen in a long time. Loved the nostalgia of the older models too leading up to the new unveiling.

Being AWD REALLY appeals to me. hmmmm

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by blueoval

One of the best Ford launches Ive seen in a long time. Loved the nostalgia of the older models too leading up to the new unveiling.

Being AWD REALLY appeals to me. hmmmm

So an interesting question for yourself, being a Subbie owner, why would you get an RS over a STi if the RS is $60k?

IIRC the current STi is pretty much bang on $50k.

Thats a fair difference for cars that might perform in a similar manner? Does that not put a bit of pressure on Ford to keep price down a bit?

Also given its a more "global" car the economics should be a bit better?

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by Polyal

So an interesting question for yourself, being a Subbie owner, why would you get an RS over a STi if the RS is $60k?

IIRC the current STi is pretty much bang on $50k.

Thats a fair difference for cars that might perform in a similar manner? Does that not put a bit of pressure on Ford to keep price down a bit?

Also given its a more "global" car the economics should be a bit better?

That is a very interesting question indeed. I think it would depend on how well the AWD handles compared to the STi. If the price point is on par with the STi, then I think a few subbie owners will be test driving this little beast out and possibly making the move. Especially if the AWD system has programmable power between front and rear wheels if I heard correctly. But that is all speculation on my part.

Seeing the back to back tests between this Focus RS vs the STi vs the EVO vs the AMG A45 and any other AWD hot hatch out there will be the very interesting factor.

[outback_ute]

Wow I did not expect this to have awd, that will change things! Apart from the Sierra Sapphire Cosworth has Ford done any other awd performance cars?

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by outback_ute

Wow I did not expect this to have awd, that will change things! Apart from the Sierra Sapphire Cosworth has Ford done any other awd performance cars?

Both Escort and Sierra Cosworth were 4x4, along with the RS200 but the later is a Group B rally car.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by outback_ute

Wow I did not expect this to have awd, that will change things! Apart from the Sierra Sapphire Cosworth has Ford done any other awd performance cars?

TX3 Turbo AWD?

I guess that was a rebadged Mazda Familia though.