Dear Clive

[Mr_G6ET]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Clive Palmer went to see a doctor"

Doctor, I feel bloated. yes you do look like a watermelon with legs and a stupid looking growth, how can we help ?
Sorry for breaching the 'bagging' rules but we are in special times. I suggest a no holes barred section alongside the humor section

[superyob]

Originally Posted by Mr_G6ET

We are not in office or a position of influence.

I cant agree with 'already achieved more' , he has caused more damage than success. His anti chinese, anti everyone other than america to be frank is narrow minded.
His promotion of racism and anti immigration is sad.

'Racism' AKA birds of a feather, is perfectly normal human behaviour. And why do we have to have immigration? Especially the large volume of incompatible immigration. Trump is the first right headed president in generations...

[Yellow_Festiva]

Clive Palmer suing WA government for $30bn in move labelled 'rapacious' by attorney general

Michael McGowan

The mining billionaire Clive Palmer is suing the Western Australian government for $30bn, the state’s attorney general has revealed.

The WA attorney general, John Quigley, introduced emergency legislation into the state’s parliament on Tuesday in a bid to “prevent potentially dire consequences for the state” after Palmer and his company, Mineralogy, lodged the claim as part of a dispute related to one of the businessman’s iron ore projects in the Pilbara region.

Quigley said the government had been engaged in dispute resolution negotiations with Palmer and his company but that the “rapacious” legal claim amounted to the state’s entire annual budget - or the equivalent of $12,000 for each of WA’s residents.

“If Mr Palmer succeeded in his claims at anywhere near the level sought, this would have dire consequences for the finances of the state of Western Australia and all Western Australians,” the attorney general said.

“The government is taking steps to protect the state from the rapacious nature of Mr Palmer [and his companies].”

Quigley said the claim related to a dispute over a mining proposal dating back to 2012 concerning the Balmoral South iron ore project in the Pilbara. He said the damages claim related to decisions made by the former WA government.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...?ocid=msedgntp

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...?ocid=msedgntp

I hope the WA State Government has their paperwork sorted, sounds like they know something is wrong

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I hope the WA State Government has their paperwork sorted, sounds like they know something is wrong

Moral of the story - don't pee off a person with deep pockets by standing in the way of making their pockets deeper...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

Moral of the story - don't pee off a person with deep pockets by standing in the way of making their pockets deeper...

The fact that they're rushing 'emergency legislation' through parliament makes me think they know they're in trouble legally or that Clive Palmer is in with a good chance of winning.

That's a huge hit to their books - $30B torpedo.

[wodahs]

interesting that (the way it was put in the morning radio new) clive pushed this 30b law suit claim over night in additon to his boarders claim against the state
and that this layest claim is about a rejection of mining rights from 2012ti
clives going hard to cripple the state as of late
bet his owner scomo is patting clives head even tho hes saying its not good

[fnp]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The fact that they're rushing 'emergency legislation' through parliament makes me think they know they're in trouble legally or that Clive Palmer is in with a good chance of winning.

That's a huge hit to their books - $30B torpedo.

I think if there's even a small chance of even a partial win on Mr. Palmer's behalf WA needs to do everything possible to avert that. You can't just ignore a threat like that.


Just what does he think he's achieving though, beyond lining his already fat pockets? WA, Australia and the world are already in for arguably the hardest economic times in decades especially here in Aus where we haven't really had any really serious hardship since WW2. Last thing the world needs in those circumstances is more fatcats and wealth inequality.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by fnp

I think if there's even a small chance of even a partial win on Mr. Palmer's behalf WA needs to do everything possible to avert that. You can't just ignore a threat like that.


Just what does he think he's achieving though, beyond lining his already fat pockets? WA, Australia and the world are already in for arguably the hardest economic times in decades especially here in Aus where we haven't really had any really serious hardship since WW2. Last thing the world needs in those circumstances is more fatcats and wealth inequality.

I think that the government shouldn't have carried out those actions allowing it to be sued in the first place - what did the previous WA State Government do that left the government open for a lawsuit like this?

The solution isn't rush legislation through to make it impossible to be sued, the solution is don't cause that action in the first place.

If Clive wins then the loser is WA tax payers and it's your state governments fault which is your fault for electing them and allowing these circumstances to occur.

I think that the government needs to be held accountable for its actions.

I don't know the specifics of what occured but the State Government sure seems rather worried that they're begging for bipartisan support from WA Libs.

You can send a message on election day.

Edit: 40 mins ago there's an update

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-...nment/12494968

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I think that the government shouldn't have carried out those actions allowing it to be sued in the first place - what did the previous WA State Government do that left the government open for a lawsuit like this?

The solution isn't rush legislation through to make it impossible to be sued, the solution is don't cause that action in the first place.

If Clive wins then the loser is WA tax payers and it's your state governments fault which is your fault for electing them and allowing these circumstances to occur.

I think that the government needs to be held accountable for its actions.

I don't know the specifics of what occured but the State Government sure seems rather worried that they're begging for bipartisan support from WA Libs.

You can send a message on election day.

Edit: 40 mins ago there's an update

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-...nment/12494968

why wait 8 years to sue , they have stated on the news here since that they had been working on this legislation for a while now but now are passing it faster due to clives over night claim
so who spilled the info this loop hole was going to bbe closed ?
and again what an amazing timing coincedance with every thing else , just another clive i mean cash crab
also it wad the libs that denighed his mining claim back then

[Bossxr8]

WA about to get flushed down the crapper. By Clive of all people.

[Mr_G6ET]

Is there a reason he doesn't take is own State Government to court over the Qld's border closure ?
Isn't that (in his opinion) unconstitutional also ? Other states ?

Different topic, am I right to say that the then State Gov blocked the sale of the iron ore asset to the Chinese ?
Was it wrong to retain the asset for Australian based companies ?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...n%20Ownership.

Search 'sale to chinese blocked by gov' in Google and it is not uncommon.
One example:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo.../#327dd6d4365d

I feel he is acting against all Australians, legal or otherwise.

[Tonz]

I dont think he really cares who or what he sues or does as long as he gets his jollies from seeing his name in the media he is happy.
As long as he is more important than anything or anyone else

[auxr]

Originally Posted by Tonz

I dont think he really cares who or what he sues or does as long as he gets his jollies from seeing his name in the media he is happy.
As long as he is more important than anything or anyone else

Totally agree with the above.

PPS: Dear Clive

Kindly F_CK OFF!

Sincerely Yours,

Western Australia
________________

[wodahs]

think i might have to sue him for mental anguish stress and the possible loss of future earnings to the sum of 60b
and thats if he doesnt get the borders down
ill have to up the amount if he gets the borders down and i get sick due to him

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Tonz

I dont think he really cares who or what he sues or does as long as he gets his jollies from seeing his name in the media he is happy.
As long as he is more important than anything or anyone else

I don't agree.

Clive is an outstanding australian businessman just trying to make a buck.

He found a constitutional law that is in his favour.

The constitution is there to protect us all regardless of whether people are jealous of Clive's wealth.

Would I vote for him over idiots like those at the helm right now?

Oh Yeah.

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by zilo

I don't agree.

Clive is an outstanding australian businessman just trying to make a buck.

He found a constitutional law that is in his favour.

The constitution is there to protect us all regardless of whether people are jealous of Clive's wealth.

Would I vote for him over idiots like those at the helm right now?

Oh Yeah.

and unfortunately he would be the type to charge you for the privilege to vote for him

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by zilo

I don't agree.

Clive is an outstanding australian businessman just trying to make a buck.

He found a constitutional law that is in his favour.

The constitution is there to protect us all regardless of whether people are jealous of Clive's wealth.

Would I vote for him over idiots like those at the helm right now?

Oh Yeah.

I don't think Australians are used to constitutional challenges and either are the governments, its interesting to see it being used and how people react to it.

Its fair to say that Australians don't value rights and or 'freedom', they're happy to give up everything for a perception of 'security'.

[Mr_G6ET]

Originally Posted by zilo

I don't agree.

Clive is an outstanding australian businessman just trying to make a buck.

He found a constitutional law that is in his favour.

The constitution is there to protect us all regardless of whether people are jealous of Clive's wealth.

Would I vote for him over idiots like those at the helm right now?

Oh Yeah.

Had to be sued to pay workers their due payments.
constitutional law that is in his favour that significantly increases the risk to W.A. Why doesn't he include all border closures if he is really concerned about his rights.
Yes like to have that wealth.
With all due respect, I am happy that his voters are a significant minority, he cant even stay awake during debate

Australians do value rights and or 'freedom' but most are prepared to do their best at this unprecedented time. Being asked to chill for a bit is a small price to pay if that keeps people safe.

[Rallye Sport]

Plenty of abandoned mine shafts out there... just sayin'

[Mr_G6ET]

Originally Posted by zilo

I don't agree.

Clive is an outstanding australian businessman just trying to make a buck.

He found a constitutional law that is in his favour.

The constitution is there to protect us all regardless of whether people are jealous of Clive's wealth.

Would I vote for him over idiots like those at the helm right now?

Oh Yeah.

The reason we should be 'lenient' at this time isn't because of our jealous of his wealth, it is for health reasons. That's the bit that we are talking about.
He wants to come here, break down the border for himself.. inconsiderate selfish individual.
He has made his 'buck', we are all trying to do that at a smaller level and get our own economy in some state.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Tonz

As long as he is more important than anything or anyone else

That's the 'in thing' at the moment.

Clive's just being fashionable.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

The fact that they're rushing 'emergency legislation' through parliament makes me think they know they're in trouble legally or that Clive Palmer is in with a good chance of winning.

Err not exactly. I know, sometimes we're a difficult people to understand.

In all seriousness, Palmer will need a police escort if he ever plans to step foot in WA again. There are a lot of people quite happy to bash him on sight.

He has voluntarily made himself "Pubic Enemy #1" in WA. Ask Julia Gillard how that feels.

As a direct consequence, The WA Government has introduced the "F_ck You Clive Bill of 2020" into parliament, and it will pass with unanimous support.

Palmer is a lunatic and a malcontent who has made sure he will never do business in WA again.
And every time he tries, the government will shut him down. And then if necessary pass legislation to absolve themselves of any wrong doing.

And there's nothing he can do about it.
Providing they stick to ****ing him over in areas under state control (eg mining) there is nothing the High Court can do.

I haven't read his current challenge, but assume he's attacking us under s92, which purportedly prevents governments from interfering in the movement of good and PEOPLE between the states.

But he has a few problems:

1) Firstly, it is a Free Trade clause, and has always been interpreted as such, and refers specifically to the imposition of duties.

2) Secondly, there have been numerous exceptions allowed by the courts and of course the biggest is quarantine. Very hard to bring fresh produce into WA.

3) We're not stopping people from travelling, simply enforcing quarantine. The question then becomes whether that is onerous or puts an unfair burden on interstate labour. And at 2 weeks, it would be hard to claim that it did.

4) Being as it was, written in the 19th century, it refers only to shipping and internal carriage. So it could only be used to force open our land and seas borders, not our airports.

5) Any ruling to force open land borders would immediately be appealed by every government.

6) Even if land borders were opened, we have the ironic luxury of only having two roads, and we can simply close them.

[Crazy Dazz]

TWU is now threatening to boycott any mine Palmer is involved with.

Do you think maybe he has dementia?
He must have been smart enough in the past, to make his money.

[Mr_G6ET]

Warning, Takes you to Humour Corner WARNING. section

https://www.fordforums.com.au/showth...30#post6478330

[Franco Cozzo]

This is an interesting interview - with a commercial litigator with mining experience in WA

https://omny.fm/shows/the-west-live/...claims-for-dam

Talks about the behavior of the WA State Government and how they lost arbitration then threw the toys out the cot.

[Mr_G6ET]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

....lost arbitration then threw the toys out the cot.

With all due respect..... Um, 'came off second best' is what they said, did they abide by the 46 conditions ?
Where does the sale to chinese come into the mix?

[wodahs]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

This is an interesting interview - with a commercial litigator with mining experience in WA

https://omny.fm/shows/the-west-live/...claims-for-dam

Talks about the behavior of the WA State Government and how they lost arbitration then threw the toys out the cot.

umm so what do you make of clives behavior in the sevenns news clip imbedded in this page
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/cor...ng-b881627900z
where he places the blame for the border situation on his pilot
and then this where clive states he would have dropped the border fight if he got his way with the mine claim
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-...veals/12551576
good old clive

[Mr_G6ET]

Clive is a Pest, keep him from the border

[Mr_G6ET]