Do you think a VR would smoke me?

[foxtrot]

Originally Posted by Tiapan

haha got another with my grilfriends head in my lap......'sleeping'
but was only goin 120 : :

sleeping?

you might wana post that one

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by foxtrot

the guy i work with owns the VR and he reckons you have a broken speedo and just revved the car up to 4500 snapped a shot lol

What?

So when you rev a Holden, the speedo needle moves too?

LMAO.

[Tiapan]

yeah i think the guy driving next to me was taking photos of my girlfriend 2

not posting that one cus dont wanna get another 'holiday'

[foxtrot]

holiday?

email me it.. i wana know what you mean by "sleeping" :P

[Casper]

Originally Posted by Tiapan

yeah i think the guy driving next to me was taking photos of my girlfriend 2

not posting that one cus dont wanna get another 'holiday'

wouldnt be a holiday....



Consider it moving country for good. :ticking:

[Tiapan]

oh.....

[XRated]

It'd be very close. What ratio diff does the EA Ghia have? Sure the Commo's auto first gear is short, but an EA's T5 first gear is pretty damn short too. I would put my money on the EA assuming you're a decent driver.

(If diffs were the same (3.08), I'd say you'd smoke him more so in mid-top end..)

[Grechie]

The EA 5 speed will beat the VR over 400metres...simple

[EL_futuraistic]

Well, seeing the EA is a 5spd then i would say it might stand a chance. The holdens are geared fairly well, i did a few runs (track) in my EL agains my mates VS (both stock) and got hosed purely cause the 1st gear in the auto revved out too far.

Would be a very interesting one to watch, if you get down to a track day make sure u film it.

[EFFalcon]

erm... VR's are slow.
the EA would have it easy.
a stock VR is only good for a mid 16 second pass
the EA should be good for a 15 second pass
ofcourse this assumes both cars are in good condition, otherwise it could go either way.
in theory the EA should have it easy.

[Damo]

i love these threads. If both cars are in good condintion and you know how to drive, the EA would win hands down.

My EA 5 speed recently ran 16.4 at heathcote dead stock with 400,000 km original motor, in 33 deg heat.

My Mums VS auto with HM headers and exhaust and CAI with 100,000 kms on the clock ran a 16 flat back when my brother owned it, was also in slightly colder conditions from memory.

so .4 differance between a very tired stock EA and a fresh modified VS. Oh and i beat them on private roads pretty frequently too. :P

[Steffo]

EA MPFi Manuals were... the fastest Falcons on sale at the time. They were almost as fast as a VN SS stock (the EA S 3.9 MPFi manual did 15.8s). And its a Ghia, so it should have the same 2.92:1 LSD that was in the S.

The VR on the other hand, is lucky to pull a 16.5 in manual form with someone like Victor Bray driving it. Unless you stall, or shift from 2nd to 5th... you will slaughter it.

[Ryan]

The VL Auto will win. :hihi:

Nah seriously it sounds like the EA 5 Speed would be the WINNAAAAAAAA!!!!!.

Now heres my question, would the exact same EA 5 Speed beat a 5 Speed VL Turbo? (Stock of course)

Keeping in mind that the VLTs ran 15.58 back in the day bone stock.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Now heres my question, would the exact same EA 5 Speed beat a 5 Speed VL Turbo? (Stock of course)

Heres another question.. why would it matter?

The VL Turbo would win. Not by as much as you think but it would win. Of course comparing turbo I6 to N/A I6 is rather pointless but, if it makes the Holden boys feel better, the Turbo VL would win.

On another note, my auto AU XR6 would take stock manual Turbo VL and trounce its *** up and down the track all day long. But of course comparing an 1998 modified auto AU XR6 with a 1988 stock manual VL turbo is about at pointless as comparing it with an EA N/A I6 anyhow

[EFFalcon]

Originally Posted by Damo

i love these threads. If both cars are in good condintion and you know how to drive, the EA would win hands down.

My EA 5 speed recently ran 16.4 at heathcote dead stock with 400,000 km original motor, in 33 deg heat.

My Mums VS auto with HM headers and exhaust and CAI with 100,000 kms on the clock ran a 16 flat back when my brother owned it, was also in slightly colder conditions from memory.

so .4 differance between a very tired stock EA and a fresh modified VS. Oh and i beat them on private roads pretty frequently too. :P

that VS was run when it was 6 degrees, on the same night my stock EF with 3.45 LSD did 16.1

[FGX-351]

im with the ea, didnt they smoke the series 1 vt 5.0 motors aswell

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Casper

Heres another question.. why would it matter?

The VL Turbo would win. Not by as much as you think but it would win. Of course comparing turbo I6 to N/A I6 is rather pointless but, if it makes the Holden boys feel better, the Turbo VL would win.

On another note, my auto AU XR6 would take stock manual Turbo VL and trounce its *** up and down the track all day long. But of course comparing an 1998 modified auto AU XR6 with a 1988 stock manual VL turbo is about at pointless as comparing it with an EA N/A I6 anyhow

Arent EAs from 1988 the same year VLs ended? _

Why is it pointless? the Falcon makes more torque then the VL Turbo not to mention there is about less then 20KW between them in standard form.

I thought I would ask because even though the VL is a Turbo I thought the EA may be a good match for it since its pretty close to the VLT's stats even if its N/A.

And know I didnt ask it so I could feel better. _

[birdy]

Good luck wish you well but if in doubt don't try save until later

[Sourbastard]

This is all fine and dandy, but what would win between a McCulloch Whipper Snipper and Breville Toaster down the 1/4 mile?

[EFFalcon]

there was a magazine article back when the EA was new, comparision between the EA S MPFI 5 speed and VL T 5 speed, form memory the times were:
EA: 15.5
VL: 15.3

[Windsor220]

Regarding the Vl Turbo the EA would actually win the quarter mile. EA - 15.8 versus VL Turbo - 15.9 (not much)

With the first question, I have beaten a VR manual twice with my old EA centrepoint injection manual (under controlled conditions). My EA had extractors and exhaust.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Arent EAs from 1988 the same year VLs ended? _

Why is it pointless? the Falcon makes more torque then the VL Turbo not to mention there is about less then 20KW between them in standard form.

Lada Sumaras were also built in 1988.. VL turbo would probably beat one of them too.. and maybe even the V6 Camry from 1988 too.

Of course, given your logic we should also compare it to the police spec 1988 Mustang V8. Totally irrelevant of course as it wasnt sold in Aust and was a V8 but hey, its just comparing. Similarish torque and power but in a V8 that weighs far less then either the Falcon or VL and would wipe the floor with both.

Its really a pointless comparison that is irrelevant in this thread. Hell, this whole thread is borderline anyhow for relevance but, given that the 2 cars in question actually exist and are not a hypathetical bid to bring in the "80's Holden hero car" (that runs an Nissan engine anyhow) into yet another thread, it can be given the benifit of the doubt.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Casper

Lada Sumaras were also built in 1988.. VL turbo would probably beat one of them too.. and maybe even the V6 Camry from 1988 too.

Of course, given your logic we should also compare it to the police spec 1988 Mustang V8. Totally irrelevant of course as it wasnt sold in Aust and was a V8 but hey, its just comparing. Similarish torque and power but in a V8 that weighs far less then either the Falcon or VL and would wipe the floor with both.

Its really a pointless comparison that is irrelevant in this thread. Hell, this whole thread is borderline anyhow for relevance but, given that the 2 cars in question actually exist and are not a hypathetical bid to bring in the "80's Holden hero car" (that runs an Nissan engine anyhow) into yet another thread, it can be given the benifit of the doubt.

Jeez I was just asking a simple question, I didnt say "What would win between a VL Turbo or a EA POS" I was actually interested to ask instead of making a entire thread about it.

Cant even ask a f***ing simple question without getting hounded on. _

[1TUFFUTE]

Casper is god all bow :

[max^power]

Originally Posted by sourbastard

This is all fine and dandy, but what would win between a McCulloch Whipper Snipper and Breville Toaster down the 1/4 mile?

The toaster would win easy! you'd have to do a nice hammer throw action, where as the whipper snipper would be alot harder to get the throw right.

[Casper]

can someone just throw the toaster AND the whipper snipper at the bloody VL and be done with it?

[Sprint_ED]

well in holdens shame its sad seeing that a turbo motor is so close to the ea S pac,
Ryan u sed it got more torque but hey the EA is just a few hundred kilos more, that shows how much potential the I6 has or what holden guys call it a 20 year old truck motor, loll

[max^power]

Originally Posted by Casper

can someone just throw the toaster AND the whipper snipper at the bloody VL and be done with it?

haha gladly casper, i can't stand VL's at the best of times.

We should take turns!

[SSBUB]

heres one:
VX SS edited, auto, measly 194 rwkw (ala me ) vs BA xr8 stock over 1/4 mile ?

[Laminge]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Cant even ask a f***ing simple question without getting hounded on. _

No

Because even I am sick of the VL Turbo holden scenarios in every other post.

www.ls1.com may be suited

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