September 2006 new car sales

Originally Posted by Dave_au

Any other makes available Ratt?

I only have Fords sorry.

[Falcon Freak]

Originally Posted by RATT

One important thing I forgot to mention is that Falcon held its % market share at 3563 units. Which is a possitive sign that Falcon hasn't suffered with the first full month of VE sales.

Those numbers are too low. Anything under 4,000 is not good for Falcon's long term viability as an indigenous model.

FF

[vztrt]

Quick VFACTs Figures

Ford Fairlane 87
Ford Falcon 3,563
Ford Falcon Ute 1,259
Ford Fiesta 313
Ford Focus 1,308
Ford LTD 6
Ford Territory 1,418

Holden Adventra 187
Holden Astra 1,491
Holden Astra Convertible 61
Holden Barina 993
Holden Caprice 167
Holden Commodore 5,262
Holden Monaro 30
Holden Statesman 211
Holden Utility 4X2 787
Holden Utility 4X4 4
Holden Vectra 110
Holden Viva 1,221


Mitsubishi 380 963
Mitsubishi Colt 243
Mitsubishi Lancer 1,417
Mitsubishi Magna V6 9
Mitsubishi Outlander 345
Mitsubishi Pajero 375
Mitsubishi Triton 4X2 70
Mitsubishi Triton 4X4 657

Toyota Avensis 130
Toyota Camry (4 cyl) 2,845
Toyota Camry V6 247
Toyota Corolla 3,852
Toyota Hilux 4X2 1,339
Toyota Hilux 4X4 1,583
Toyota Kluger 314
Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC 598
Toyota Landcruiser Wagon 803
Toyota Prado 921
Toyota Prius 148
Toyota RAV4 1,207
Toyota Yaris 2,043

[Full Spectrum]

I just got on the freeway and going the other way was a VE ignition SS. Get off the freeway and coming at me was another VE ignition SS. Then i seen a doctor in a new caprice. + a omega at bursons and a omega on a footpath looked like it was showing off to the cars that passed outside a factory. The new Sporty model remind me of when the BA first came out everyone seem to have one.

[ClevlndStemer]

5000+ commodores is good, not for ford but still shows people are still interested in the big car. Once again corolla beat the falcon, falcon just looks way to boring in comparison to commodore.

[rst2000]

Originally Posted by ClevlndStemer

5000+ commodores is good, not for ford but still shows people are still interested in the big car. Once again corolla beat the falcon, falcon just looks way to boring in comparison to commodore.

spot on, excellent result for the commodore..now ford has to survive until first quarter '08' for orion, some tuff times ahead me thinks!!!.

[MRJUCY]

I want to know who the 9 people that bought Magnas are. :

[aualright]

Good result for Holden but then again they have received some excellent publicity lately. What surprises me is the Barina and Viva results, however.

[LeadFoot81]

Originally Posted by MRJUCY

It's amazing that it doesn't matter how much people are moaning about fuel prices Ford still can't shift the littlies.

Its not so much that they cant ship them, u cna barely get your hands on them. we had to wait four months for a fiesta zetec! Glad to add 1 to that september total though =)

[bathurst77]

Less then 100 fairlane /LTD
nearly 400 Statesman /caprice

[bathurst77]

Whats a "VE ignition SS" ?

[Fairlane]

Ignition is a colour

[bathurst77]

Ford Fiesta 313
Ford Focus 1,308
total small 1621

Ford Falcon 3,563
Ford Falcon Ute 1,259
total falcon 4,822

Ford Fairlane 87
Ford LTD 6
total LWB 93

Ford Territory 1,418

Total "Falcon based" 6240
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Holden Viva 1,221
Holden Barina 993
Holden Astra 1,491
Holden Astra Convertible 61
Holden Vectra 110
total small 3878

Holden Commodore 5,262
Holden Monaro 30
Holden Utility 4X2 787
Holden Utility 4X4 4
total Commodore 6083

Holden Statesman 211
Holden Caprice 167
total LWB 378

Holden Adventra 187

Total "commodore based" 6648

[bathurst77]

Toyota Kluger 314
Toyota Landcruiser PU/CC 598
Toyota Landcruiser Wagon 803
Toyota Prado 921
Total cruiser/prado/kluger 2636
plus Toyota RAV4 1,207
total 3843

Ford Territory 1,418

Mitsubishi Outlander 345
Mitsubishi Pajero 375
Total mitsu passenger 4wd 720

Holden Adventra 187

[Outbackjack]

How anybody could drive a fiesta and then drive a barina and then actually buy a barina is beyond me. I had a hire one in MLB a few weeks ago. It had about 3000k on the clock. It would have to be one of the worst cars that I have ever driven. People must simply buy on price and leave it at that. My wife's little fiesta is 100 times better than the barina. Oh well, at least after 4 or 5 years the fiesta should still actually be worth something.

[bathurst77]

Ford Fiesta 313
Ford Focus 1,308
total small 1621

Mitsubishi Colt 243
Mitsubishi Lancer 1,417
total small 1660

Holden Viva 1,221
Holden Barina 993
Holden Astra 1,491
Holden Astra Convertible 61
Holden Vectra 110
total small 3878

Toyota Avensis 130
Toyota Corolla 3,852
Toyota Prius 148
Toyota Yaris 2,043
total small 6,173

[TZENU]

Although i have seen a lot of VE commos on the road i reckon with the ford launch sales will even out amongst the two

[bathurst77]

wrong thread

[blackahcdx]

Originally Posted by MRJUCY

I want to know who the 9 people that bought Magnas are. :

I Want to know who the 6 people that bought LTD's are :

[bathurst77]

Originally Posted by blackahcdx

I Want to know who the 6 people that bought LTD's are :

Limo companies?

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

How anybody could drive a fiesta and then drive a barina and then actually buy a barina is beyond me. I had a hire one in MLB a few weeks ago. It had about 3000k on the clock. It would have to be one of the worst cars that I have ever driven. People must simply buy on price and leave it at that. My wife's little fiesta is 100 times better than the barina. Oh well, at least after 4 or 5 years the fiesta should still actually be worth something.

I can explain that.

1) PRICE
2) Holden Barinas reputation as a "brand"
3) It's been around as a Barina for some time
4) Fiesta is still a relatively unknown car.
5) Ford marketing

In that order.

[Smoke Pursuit]

6) Ford dealers - no professionalism and very sleezy.

Ive been shopping for a new car with one of my friends (girl) and talk about assholes. Some will say they all arent like that, but the two we went to were, bloody disgraceful people, Ford obviously doesnt give its sales staff any training what so ever about being decent towards female customers.

Went to holden, no smart remarks, no assholes perving at her and a decent deal. We ended up getting the Astra.


Ford will be lucky if they see to me again after the last 24 hours, their sales staff are the most unprofessional people ive seen in the industry, and I dont know why.

[Outbackjack]

Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

6) Ford dealers - no professionalism and very sleezy.

Ive been shopping for a new car with one of my friends (girl) and talk about assholes. Some will say they all arent like that, but the two we went to were, bloody disgraceful people, Ford obviously doesnt give its sales staff any training what so ever about being decent towards female customers.

Went to holden, no smart remarks, no assholes perving at her and a decent deal. We ended up getting the Astra.


Ford will be lucky if they see to me again after the last 24 hours, their sales staff are the most unprofessional people ive seen in the industry, and I dont know why.

Funny the opposite is true here, the holden reps were shocking, the ford people were very profesional and likeable. Guess we both had never buy a ford or holden ever again hey!!

[XR Martin]

I think it primarily comes down to stock for the Fiesta.

[The Stylist]

Here's what is being happening in the NZ new car sales race, from MIA, via car.co.nz.


The new car market continued at near-record levels in September. 7422 new cars were registered making September the strongest month this year. It was a 10.2% lift on August and just 1% behind the peak reached in September 2005. Commercial vehicle sales at 1924 fell 16% behind the seasonal peak, reflecting the softening economy.

In contrast to the continuing strength of the new vehicle market, used imports were again well down on previous years’ levels and are now down 17.8% against 2005 on a year to date basis.

“There’s a fundamental shift towards newer vehicles taking place,” said Perry Kerr, CEO of the Motor Industry Association. “Buyers are becoming increasingly aware of the value represented by new cars as well as late model New Zealand-new used cars.”

Ford and Toyota are now running neck and neck in the new car sales battle after Ford taking top honours for the last three months, but Toyota remains well in front for total vehicles thanks to their dominance in commercials.

Commodore surged to a huge lead in the individual model stakes in September, increasing the year to date lead over Falcon.


Top Fifteen new car models, Month of September 2005.

1 HOLDEN COMMODORE 834
2 FORD FALCON 502
3 TOYOTA COROLLA 456
4 FORD FOCUS 355
5 TOYOTA CAMRY 343
6 HONDA JAZZ 228
7 HOLDEN VIVA 203
8 MAZDA MAZDA6 199
9 SUZUKI SWIFT 185
10 DAIHATSU SIRION 178
11 TOYOTA YARIS 162
12 FORD TERRITORY 161
13 MAZDA MAZDA3
14 NISSAN TIIDA
15 FORD MONDEO

[new2ford]

Originally Posted by Outbackjack

Funny the opposite is true here, the holden reps were shocking, the ford people were very profesional and likeable. Guess we both had never buy a ford or holden ever again hey!!

I think with both Ford and Holden dealers its the luck of the draw although Holden is generally much more polished.

I will give a guernsey though to Hills Ford Hornsby (sales only, service and parts is rotten). They have a FEMALE salesperson in the showroom and very knowledgable and friendly she is. What a sensible acknowledgement by the dealer of where much of the car-buying power is. Other dealers please note. I reckon Ford would sweep to the top of the market if at least half the dealers' sales staff were replaced with women - ones who know their cars like this one.

[Full Spectrum]

Originally Posted by LSTerritoryGhia

6) Ford dealers - no professionalism and very sleezy.

Ive been shopping for a new car with one of my friends (girl) and talk about assholes. Some will say they all arent like that, but the two we went to were, bloody disgraceful people, Ford obviously doesnt give its sales staff any training what so ever about being decent towards female customers.

Went to holden, no smart remarks, no assholes perving at her and a decent deal. We ended up getting the Astra.


Ford will be lucky if they see to me again after the last 24 hours, their sales staff are the most unprofessional people ive seen in the industry, and I dont know why.

You forgot 7)... Noone really give a **** as long as it's cheap runs cheap and gets from A to B.
I know a guy that owns a EF XR6 EA Falcon and his runabout car is a Corolla that is about 18 years old. It was tipped by a mob last new years.

I'm about to buy a 91 Camry as a **** kicker run around car. It's cheap.

[RAREV8]

Originally Posted by new2ford

I think with both Ford and Holden dealers its the luck of the draw although Holden is generally much more polished.

I will give a guernsey though to Hills Ford Hornsby (sales only, service and parts is rotten). They have a FEMALE salesperson in the showroom and very knowledgable and friendly she is. What a sensible acknowledgement by the dealer of where much of the car-buying power is. Other dealers please note. I reckon Ford would sweep to the top of the market if at least half the dealers' sales staff were replaced with women - ones who know their cars like this one.

Geez, who the hell did you find there?! have a gander at my reverse sensors post in contemporary falcons regarding my issues with Hills...the old manager was great, as is Nick- there are no female sales staff there now- 2 left while dealing with my car and I never even met them!

I have had great service from Hills however, they don't always get it right 1st time but they remedied the issues with my clunking BA perfectly within 2 visits.

[Bossxr8]

Holden would be dissapointed with those numbers. They would have been planning to sell at least 7000. Holden have to sell VT numbers to get that billion dollar investment back, and they have already fallen short. Early days though.

[Smoke Pursuit]

I very much Doubt Holden would have ever estimated 7000 units with the way the market is, i think they have done very well, another month and further supply and we may infact seem them 2000 units ahead of Ford.

Their 2x4 Ute sales must say something to them e.g. we should have brought the VE utes out the same time as sedans.

Fords always going to dominate with the Falcon ute, its too versatile compared to the Holden, the Holdens only good for show ponies!