Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 15-02-2011, 11:26 AM   #61
Smoke Pursuit
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 22,927
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: DASH/bfiipursuit has been alot of help over the years I have frequented this forum, lots of thoughtful and informed posts, very much a valued contributor. 
Default

The Boss 260 was the last falcon lacking grunt... lol the 220 Au XR8 was quicker!
Smoke Pursuit is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 11:29 AM   #62
Polyal
The 'Stihl' Man
Donating Member2
 
Polyal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TAS
Posts: 27,588
Default

Oh for different reasons, the BOSS XR8 has always had more power than the SS I thought.

And it only lacked grunt in certain area's..hehe...lets not start that here shall we
__________________
  • 2017 Toyota Prado (work hack)
  • 2017 Mitsubishi Pajero Sport
  • 2003 CL7 Honda Accord Euro R (JDM) - K20A 6MT
  • 1999 Lexus IS200 - 1G-FE Turbo 6MT
  • 1973 ZF Ford Fairlane

Last edited by Polyal; 15-02-2011 at 11:38 AM.
Polyal is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 11:40 AM   #63
Olbucko
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Olbucko's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Central Tablelands. NSW
Posts: 894
Default

You think the 3.2 Ea was slow! I learnt to drive in an XK 2 speed auto waggon, 2.36 litres, 64 Kw, 112 kph flat out, but that was faster than an EK Holden auto.
Olbucko is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 12:40 PM   #64
RAPID_BA
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,922
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DASH GT
The Boss 260 was the last falcon lacking grunt... lol the 220 Au XR8 was quicker!
What are we gonna do with you Dash GT...lol
RAPID_BA is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 12:43 PM   #65
Smoke Pursuit
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 22,927
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: DASH/bfiipursuit has been alot of help over the years I have frequented this forum, lots of thoughtful and informed posts, very much a valued contributor. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HULK_BA
What are we gonna do with you Dash GT...lol
Smoke Pursuit is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 01:30 PM   #66
vztrt
IWCMOGTVM Club Supporter
 
vztrt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Posts: 17,799
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: vztrt is one of the most consistent and respected contributors to AFF, I have found his contributions are most useful to discussion as well as answering members queries. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HULK_BA
So would the insurers ignore the turbo and intercooler? The i6 is pretty cheap to insure, wouldnt we factor this into our running costs calc?

To save half a litre per 100km and then pay $500-1000 a year more insurance?

XR8 & XR6T were about the same to insure so I don't see your point.
__________________
Daniel
vztrt is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 06:13 PM   #67
RAPID_BA
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,922
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vztrt
XR8 & XR6T were about the same to insure so I don't see your point.
How is your comment relevant? I think you missed the point.

There is a big difference comparing a I6 insurance to a turbo. Your comparing a v8 to a turbo???
RAPID_BA is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 06:44 PM   #68
DJM83
Barra Turbo > V8
Donating Member3
 
DJM83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 26,066
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DASH GT
The Boss 260 was the last falcon lacking grunt... lol the 220 Au XR8 was quicker!
I see how it is hahahah mmmmmm nothing beats the Windsor note either
__________________
-2011 XR6 Turbo Ute - Lux Pack - M6
-2022 Hyundai Tucson Highlander Diesel N Line
DJM83 is online now  
Old 15-02-2011, 07:06 PM   #69
vztrt
IWCMOGTVM Club Supporter
 
vztrt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Posts: 17,799
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: vztrt is one of the most consistent and respected contributors to AFF, I have found his contributions are most useful to discussion as well as answering members queries. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HULK_BA
How is your comment relevant? I think you missed the point.

There is a big difference comparing a I6 insurance to a turbo. Your comparing a v8 to a turbo???
The I6 and the I4T will be not hi performance models. So why would insurance be so high for it? Cause one has a turbo and the other is NA?

The V8 vs the I6T are on par that they are hi performance models but one is NA and the other uses a turbo.
__________________
Daniel
vztrt is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 08:28 PM   #70
04redxr8
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
04redxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 601
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DASH GT
The Boss 260 was the last falcon lacking grunt... lol the 220 Au XR8 was quicker!
And your XR6 is so much better?
04redxr8 is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 08:37 PM   #71
RAPID_BA
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,922
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by vztrt

1. Cause one has a turbo and the other is NA?

2. The V8 vs the I6T are on par that they are hi performance models but one is NA and the other uses a turbo.
1. Yes

2. Insurers dont like v8s or forced induction. The i6 is different to the v8 even if they are n/a. The insurers will treat the i4t like the i6t

Look how they treated the old supercharged v6 holden, look how they treat turbo vw and audi, look how they treat any turbo or supercharged car.

Do you see the point yet? Ready to backpedal?
RAPID_BA is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 08:44 PM   #72
vztrt
IWCMOGTVM Club Supporter
 
vztrt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Northern Suburbs Melbourne
Posts: 17,799
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: vztrt is one of the most consistent and respected contributors to AFF, I have found his contributions are most useful to discussion as well as answering members queries. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HULK_BA
1. Yes

2. Insurers dont like v8s or forced induction. The i6 is different to the v8 even if they are n/a. The insurers will treat the i4t like the i6t

Look how they treated the old supercharged v6 holden, look how they treat turbo vw and audi, look how they treat any turbo or supercharged car.

Do you see the point yet? Ready to backpedal?
No its a 4cyl turbo in a large car. How bout we see when it comes out, I don't see it happening. There's more to insurance the engine.
__________________
Daniel
vztrt is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 08:58 PM   #73
04redxr8
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
04redxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 601
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HULK_BA
1. Yes

2. Insurers dont like v8s or forced induction. The i6 is different to the v8 even if they are n/a. The insurers will treat the i4t like the i6t

Look how they treated the old supercharged v6 holden, look how they treat turbo vw and audi, look how they treat any turbo or supercharged car.

Do you see the point yet? Ready to backpedal?

'06 BF II (I6) one tonne Ute. Agreed value $18,500, $770 to insure.

Changed to '10 SSV (manual) Ute, Agreed Value $52,000, cost $550 to insure.

Kept the same policy, just changed the vehicle.

So, your point is??????
04redxr8 is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 09:07 PM   #74
stev3n
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 140
Default

I dont think they have ever released a falcon without grunt, for instance, if you look at a carby unleaded xf it had about 95Kw (flywheel Kw) from memory. Doesn't sound like much, but you would see them on the highway towing massive boats, horse floats with 2 horses onboard or large caravans, they weren't holding up the flow of traffic in their day. The ecoboost seems to have plenty of torque down low, where it is useful, much like an old xf.

People are not going to buy an ecoboost 4cyl to go racing, think they are aimed at city drivers or school shuttle busses. As much as I love the I6 I think ecoboost is an engine ford australia needs at this point
stev3n is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 09:19 PM   #75
Smoke Pursuit
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 22,927
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: DASH/bfiipursuit has been alot of help over the years I have frequented this forum, lots of thoughtful and informed posts, very much a valued contributor. 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 04redxr8
And your XR6 is so much better?
Its nearly as quick as an asthmatic Boss 260.. Not bad for a stocko Falcon work hack eh

but then again what would I know, I only have owned a 2 x Boss 290's and now a Boss 315....

Feeling somewhat defensive are we?? you obviously don't do sarcasm well.
Smoke Pursuit is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 09:55 PM   #76
RAPID_BA
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,922
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DASH GT
Its nearly as quick as an asthmatic Boss 260.. Not bad for a stocko Falcon work hack eh

but then again what would I know, I only have owned a 2 x Boss 290's and now a Boss 315....

Feeling somewhat defensive are we?? you obviously don't do sarcasm well.
Dash GT, boss 260 owners have feelings too.

People think the ecoboost will slip under the insurance radar? It has a turbo!!!

Those supercharged v6 holden owners have been arguing with insurance companies for years that they are basic family cars. Watch the falcon i4t owners have the same arguments.
RAPID_BA is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 10:37 PM   #77
04redxr8
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
04redxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 601
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DASH GT
Its nearly as quick as an asthmatic Boss 260.. Not bad for a stocko Falcon work hack eh

but then again what would I know, I only have owned a 2 x Boss 290's and now a Boss 315....

Feeling somewhat defensive are we?? you obviously don't do sarcasm well.
You or your parents have owned?
04redxr8 is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 11:03 PM   #78
uranium_death
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
uranium_death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Gren A Waverrey
Posts: 2,415
Default

The XF Wagon with the 4.1 had a lot of grunt, but was not very quick...
__________________
Practicing - Sleeping with a guitar in your hand counts, as long as you don't drop it.

Don't snap my undies.
uranium_death is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 11:11 PM   #79
SteveJH
No longer a Uni student..
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Coffs Harbour, NSW
Posts: 2,557
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 04redxr8
You or your parents have owned?
If his (now deleted) sig is telling the truth, He has owned.
SteveJH is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 11:21 PM   #80
Paxton
Cobblers!
 
Paxton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Shire, NSW
Posts: 4,489
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 04redxr8
You or your parents have owned?
He. Our Brent likes his Fords.
__________________
Ego BFII Ghia
Titanium Silver E53 X5 4.4i
Gunmetal EF XR6. Now retired from active duty.
Roses are red. Violets are blue. OS X rocks. Homage to you.
Paxton is offline  
Old 15-02-2011, 11:32 PM   #81
Auslandau
335 - STILL THE BOSS ...
 
Auslandau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melb East
Posts: 11,421
Default

Of course this thread with a title like this was going to end bad .....

And just for some more information ..... even though has nothing to do with the thread ..... I have a 4cyl turbo and and the insurance is 1/2 the price as the older XR6 NA .... the turbo is also insured for more ....... but then that is very off topic isn't it.



__________________
'73 Landau - 10.82 @ 131mph
'11 FG GT335 - 12.43 @ 116mph
'95 XG ute - 3 minutes, 21.14 @ 64mph


101,436 MEMBERS ......... 101,436 OPINIONS ..... What could possibly go wrong!

Clevo Mafia
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Auslandau is offline  
Closed Thread


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 03:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL