1000HP Falcon for Superlap - World Time Attack Challenge - Page 4

madmelon · 22-05-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilishChick60

Apparently it had turbo issues and boost lag..

A good effort! Slick tyres would have made it go even quicker which i think it should have been on slicks!

Theres a few other pics of it up on Advan Australiá site..

No slicks allowed. Every car there was on road legal semi slick tyres. Spent the whole day there- was pretty good! The XR6 Turbo sounded like a 747 spooling up every time it came round the final turn but you could see it was an absolute dog in the corners compared to everything else- so slow.

Meg's GT's · 22-05-2010, 07:42 PM

Spoke with Jose after the meet. This morning was the first time this car had seen any track time at all. Biggest problem today was putting power to the ground....constant wheel spin. Had to de-tune engine, best lap 1:40.5.
Car was whoopin it down the straight just couldn't get the power to the ground through the corners when it needed to. Would be much better if they were allowed to run slicks.

deesun · 22-05-2010, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Inducted_Breeze

.and the first place runner was faster than the track record of the V8SC's ...damn thats quick.

Albeit an 11 year old record. I think they may have got a little quicker since 1999. Though I recognise also that the cars at superlap are on roadies they may not have the engine restrictions that V8' sc's have.

DevilishChick60 · 22-05-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Meg's GT

Spoke with Jose after the meet. This morning was the first time this car had seen any track time at all. Biggest problem today was putting power to the ground....constant wheel spin. Had to de-tune engine, best lap 1:40.5.
Car was whoopin it down the straight just couldn't get the power to the ground through the corners when it needed to. Would be much better if they were allowed to run slicks.

I think what really hurt them was the loss of the whole day on Friday... If they had of turned up on Friday who knows how quick the thing could have been on Saturday! Perhaps a little unorganised??

landau460 · 22-05-2010, 10:15 PM

Another thing i wish i had gone to at least i didnt miss that ford realy movin like it should have been that is what i was goin to gothere for

MexicanBatman · 22-05-2010, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by deesun

Albeit an 11 year old record. I think they may have got a little quicker since 1999. Though I recognise also that the cars at superlap are on roadies they may not have the engine restrictions that V8' sc's have.

Am I wrong in saying that's the race lap reccord not qualifying lap reccord for the supercars? Also the sports sedans are faster than the v8 too or what ever the tin tops that run anything are called.

Just checked lap record is 1.30 something in an AU lol go ford.

That said these million dollar tin tops are still slower than a go kart

deesun · 23-05-2010, 12:36 AM

Then there is this bloke, hero at Eastern Creek and zero at Monte Carlo last weekends F1 race, OUTRIGHT Nico Hulkenberg (GER) A1 Lola Zytek 1.19.142 4/02/2007 .
Re the Jose car, seemed like an awefull lot of trouble and expense to go to and then be 9 secs off the pace. His interview was as if he was going to be right up there but he had nothing. Too much talk not enough track time to dial in the car. Like the old saying " When the flag drops the bulldust stops".

phillyc · 23-05-2010, 02:03 PM

Check out the wings on some of the opposition cars. They look like they come from DTM with those multi-strakes / winglets. The Supercar aero is not for massive downforce. It is really for anti-lift with only minimal downforce. Surely they could do some serious tweaking / development?!

How wide are they allowed to go for the tyre width? Channeling 800hp at the rear wheels would require some really wide tyres!

Still, it's good to see the Falcon up there. At a place like Sandown or Bathurst the hp would show.

Grippy · 23-05-2010, 02:12 PM

What a great effort considering the car has had basically zero development/testing with this configuration

drew`SEVNT5 · 24-05-2010, 01:30 AM

9 Seconds off the pace?

Ouch.

Excuses are cheap, tho....

DevilishChick60 · 24-05-2010, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by drew`SEVNT5

9 Seconds off the pace?

Ouch.

Excuses are cheap, tho....

But you got to remember they didnt have time to do all the last minute stuff like testing etc..

Great Effort.. Even though a Lotus Elise kicked it's butt, it's still a great feat to achieve!

Hope it's back next year!

Quicksand · 24-05-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by andrewg6e

Am I wrong in saying that's the race lap reccord not qualifying lap reccord for the supercars? Also the sports sedans are faster than the v8 too or what ever the tin tops that run anything are called.

Just checked lap record is 1.30 something in an AU lol go ford.

That said these million dollar tin tops are still slower than a go kart

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Originally Posted by deesun

Albeit an 11 year old record. I think they may have got a little quicker since 1999. Though I recognise also that the cars at superlap are on roadies they may not have the engine restrictions that V8' sc's have.

I think you both are right.

According to a comment by someone on the Car Advice article Day 1 discussions:

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chuck says:
May 22, 2010 at 8:38 am

The actual v8sc laptime is 1.30.8955 set on 28-04-2001 set by Marcos Ambrose. Skaifes lap was during the race.

Go Panspeed!

This is still slower than the winning superlap car, and the V8SC had better rubber. I wonder how longevity would come into play.

Nikked · 24-05-2010, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Inducted_Breeze

This is still slower than the winning superlap car, and the V8SC had better rubber. I wonder how longevity would come into play.

Just goes to show how good these little jap machines are :-)

trippytaka · 24-05-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Just goes to show how good these little jap machines are :-)

I don't think anyone would ever doubt it. Evos, GT-Rs etc are seriously amazing cars.

4Vman · 24-05-2010, 04:54 PM

So these cars are slower than the AU V8SC?

Nikked · 24-05-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

So these cars are slower than the AU V8SC?

Faster, on semi slicks.

Tarzan Yamada Mitsubishi EVO 1:30.5870

Marcos Ambrose BA Falcon 1.30.8955

Nikked · 24-05-2010, 05:36 PM

Winning car spec's

Engine Mitsubishi 4G63 (2.0 straight four cylinder)
Estimated Power 700 whp
Approx. Weight 1060 KG
Power To Weight Ratio0.66 HP Per Kilo

Engine Modifications
Tomei 2.2L Stroker Kit A'pexi RX6 Turbo Kit HKS EVC Boost Controller HKS F-Com V-Pro ECU CyberEVO Titanium Exhaust CyberEVO Inlet Manifold & Throttle Body JUN Camshafts HPI Oil Cooler HPI Intercooler ORC Twin Plate Clutch Maintained by Unlimited Works

Suspension & BrakeMods
Tein Super Racing Coilovers Bestex Springs CyberEVO Suspension Arms OEM Brembo Brake Calipers PFC Pads

Driveline Modifications
Cusco Front & Rear LSD's

Chassis Modifications
Full Voltex Wide body Kit Voltex GT-Wing
Wheels & Tyres18"x10.5" +22 AME TM-02 Wheels Yokohama ADVAN A050 R-spec Tyres

5.4 GT · 25-05-2010, 12:55 PM

Current Qualifying Lap Record: Mark Skaife, Holden Commodore VT, 1m30.6556s, 1999

Current Race Lap Record: Mark Skaife, Holden Commodore VT, 1m31.7301s, 1999

Source: http://www.v8x.com.au/cms/A_110173/article.html

GTP-814 · 25-05-2010, 01:48 PM

it was an odd day out there. Cars within each category had a couple of 40 min session on the Sunday to post a quick time. Track commentary stated that the tryes on teh cars were only good for 2-3 laps then they went off, just like the old V8 qualifiers. There was a lot of cost in machinery on display for little track action. The most interesting part of teh day wasnt watching teh cars but cruising behind teh poits observing what these rice crackers were made from ie firbe glass panels & big turbos. In all a fun day

DevilishChick60 · 25-05-2010, 02:12 PM

I think what a lot of people forgot about was that the Falcon was on treaded tyres.. equiv to wets on a V8 Supercar..

Had the car been able to run on slicks who knows how fast it could have gotten..

For the amount of money that went into the cars themselves, the overall event was a bit odd. a few sessions here and there.. if Pro Class was the main headline act they should have been able to run longer sessions to put in better times..

Was the Pro Class final cancelled?? If it was that would have cost alot of Pro Class cars a chance of a solid decent lap.

Grippy · 25-05-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DevilishChick60

I think what a lot of people forgot about was that the Falcon was on treaded tyres.. equiv to wets on a V8 Supercar..

Had the car been able to run on slicks who knows how fast it could have gotten...

Same rules for everyone there, had the other cars (Evo's and GTR's) been on slicks they would have been quicker too.

Fev · 28-07-2010, 10:18 PM

Here is a vid of the XR6T on the track
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwMFg-Zi7J4

Video of the WTAC DVD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2Gei...layer_embedded

Grippy · 28-07-2010, 11:42 PM

Thanks for sharing the videos, sounded great coming on to boost sideways

Quicksand · 29-07-2010, 10:07 AM

Holy crap i have goose bumps watching that. Sounded amazing!! Good speed too if it had more traction!

nommic · 29-07-2010, 05:00 PM

That thing looks like it is verging on being undrivable.... pretty ballsy though

Bad Bird · 29-07-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikked

Faster, on semi slicks.

But without the minimum weight restrictions, spec suspension, engine configuration/power limitations, maximum downforce/spec wings...

Apples to Oranges.

SteveJH · 29-07-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Bird

But without the minimum weight restrictions, spec suspension, engine configuration/power limitations, maximum downforce/spec wings...

Apples to Oranges.

They had nothing like the development time the other teams had though. From memory they only managed to get the engine in the car and running something like the week before the event.

Grippy · 29-07-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveJH

They had nothing like the development time the other teams had though. From memory they only managed to get the engine in the car and running something like the week before the event.

Correct, it was a great effort just to have the car out on the track. Look forward to seeing it in the future with some more development into the car.

SteveJH · 29-07-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Grippy

Correct, it was a great effort just to have the car out on the track. Look forward to seeing it in the future with some more development into the car.

Assuming they have the money for it.....

Nikked · 29-07-2010, 07:04 PM

OH. MY. GOD!

Best thing i've heard! That thing sounds amazing!