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Old 17-01-2015, 12:48 AM   #91
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Default Re: All-new Ford GT revealed.

Some days you ask yourself why you even bother reading some of the dribble on this forum. There's a lot more to a car than the engine. Just look at the next gen of cars like the a45 AMG which will be over 300kw in a 2 L engine. Ford could have run the new Mustang 5.2L flat plane engine with twin turbos but they choose to run something lighter with less friction.i think they are brilliant for giving this a go.
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Some days you ask yourself why you even bother reading some of the dribble on this forum. There's a lot more to a car than the engine. Just look at the next gen of cars like the a45 AMG which will be over 300kw in a 2 L engine. Ford could have run the new Mustang 5.2L flat plane engine with twin turbos but they choose to run something lighter with less friction.i think they are brilliant for giving this a go.
Plus, as already posted, it's an engine that has already proven itself in racing. I was there for the win at Sebring last year!
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Old 17-01-2015, 08:21 AM   #93
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Remember Clarkson emptying his wallet into the fuel tank when they went to Paris? You wouldn't want to be pitting every 5 laps for fuel in a race.


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The racing car wont particularly follow what the road car does. The previous GT raced by Matech used a 5L and 5.3L NA V8 instead of the 5.4L SC V8. Most of these GT style categories also balance performance with air restrictors, which in most cases is not much over 2 inches wide.

There were early rumours that if the GT returned, it would race with a TTV6 but go on sale with a V8, possibly Voodoo.
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The racing car wont particularly follow what the road car does. The previous GT raced by Matech used a 5L and 5.3L NA V8 instead of the 5.4L SC V8. Most of these GT style categories also balance performance with air restrictors, which in most cases is not much over 2 inches wide.

There were early rumours that if the GT returned, it would race with a TTV6 but go on sale with a V8, possibly Voodoo.
Last year's race car used a 3.5 turbo V6 and won one of the world's iconic endurance races overall, the first Sebring overall win for a Ford since the '60s. The race engine was clearly used to develop the new production Ford GT engine, just as Ford created a DOHC 5.0 that raced in Mustangs prior to the introduction of the Coyote 5.0.

The earlier Ford GT capitalized on development for the Terminator Cobras and Lightning pickup. A supercharged 5.4 was the easy answer. It did not come from a race engine, and superchargers are the wrong answer for any form of racing other than drag racing.
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Last year's race car was not a GT either!
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Old 17-01-2015, 03:43 PM   #97
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Nothing wrong with a twin turbo v6, anyone remember the Jag XJ220??
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Last year's race car was not a GT either!
No, it was hideous. The GT is gorgeous.
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Old 18-01-2015, 10:05 AM   #99
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XBox and Ford in partnership. Clever marketing to the younger generation perhaps?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7486BhK6BRA
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Has it been thrashed in a video yet ?
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Has it been thrashed in a video yet ?
No, but you can hear it whistle and see it move:
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Sounds great !
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Old 19-01-2015, 08:18 PM   #104
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It needs some fine tuning but that should be expected with over a year until production.
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Sounds like something that would normally have a Ferrari or Porsche badge on it. That turbo whistle..


Oh, the center of the taillights are dump pipes for the waste gates...factory fitted screamer pipes!
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Old 19-01-2015, 10:21 PM   #106
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I am staggered at the negativity towards arguably the best looking and potentially fastest production Ford ever. Seriously, people complain that Ford have nothing, that they concentrate too much on "bland commuter cars" then they bring this out, still whining.
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Not sure what's worse, Chev badges on Holdens or a V6 in a GT.
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Not sure what's worse, Chev badges on Holdens or a V6 in a GT.
I am very sure of which is worse.
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Not sure what's worse, Chev badges on Holdens or a V6 in a GT.
funny thing is going back 15-20 years ago if someone said that ford was going to release a turbo i6 falcon all the V8 fans would have called sacrilege.

likewise to the 4cyl ecoboost. now look at it.

Car companies will go with the times and what will produce a better car. a V6 Turbo will produce the same power, have better torque and be lighter, this will helping with acceleration as well as cornering ability as there is less weight being thrown around sideways.

dont get me wrong, a V8 still has its place but not in a car targetting some of the worlds fastest.
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I think too many people get caught up on the cylinder count instead of displacement.
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I think too many people get caught up on the cylinder count instead of displacement.
Make that "output" rather than "displacement" and I'll agree with you.

Those four-cylinder turbo Sierras certainly didn't give up any ground to V8s.
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Make that "output" rather than "displacement" and I'll agree with you.

Those four-cylinder turbo Sierras certainly didn't give up any ground to V8s.
Exactly, it shouldn't matter what the cylinder count is nor the actual type of engine.
As long as the car can perform as it is intended what's the issue?
What do people think of the 1 litre 3 cylinder engine being used in their Formula Ford (i think it was)?
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Not sure what's worse, Chev badges on Holdens or a V6 in a GT.
So if you were given the choice between a VL Commodore with a Chevy badge or the 2016 Ford GT, you would honestly have a hard time choosing?
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Like some other things, the GT is more about what you can do with it, rather then bragging about inches...
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Instead of the Engineering ......
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Make that "output" rather than "displacement" and I'll agree with you.

Those four-cylinder turbo Sierras certainly didn't give up any ground to V8s.
You're missing my.point I think. Line a 3.5L TTV6 alongside a 3.5L TTV8 and they're both going to perform very similarly, but how many more people will pick the V8?

More and more people are getting on this bandwagon that V8/10/12's are dying but there's nothing forcing manufacturers from keeping these engines 6L+.

Ford have a 2.7L V6 now when 10 years ago they would have made a bigger 4 cylinder. Why not make a smaller V8 when the Gen 2 3.5 V6 and Coyote V8 run out of legs?
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You're missing my.point I think. Line a 3.5L TTV6 alongside a 3.5L TTV8 and they're both going to perform very similarly, but how many more people will pick the V8?

More and more people are getting on this bandwagon that V8/10/12's are dying but there's nothing forcing manufacturers from keeping these engines 6L+.

Ford have a 2.7L V6 now when 10 years ago they would have made a bigger 4 cylinder. Why not make a smaller V8 when the Gen 2 3.5 V6 and Coyote V8 run out of legs?
No, a 3.5L V6 will probably perform better than a V8 of equal displacement due to fewer parts and less internal friction.

And all the manufacturers are looking globally instead of locally now. The EU does not like large displacement engines.
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Interesting info on the below site:
http://www.hotrod.com/cars/new-car-r...-vs-acura-nsx/

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Ford will be keeping annual production of the GT low, with plans to only produce 250 examples each year and priced right around $400,000.4

The GT is due to go on sale next year, and according to reports from Geneva, the 250 units it will build will go on for "several years."

There's still nothing set in stone on price, but Dave Pericak, the director of Ford Performance, says to expect pricing around the Lamborghini Aventador, which starts at $397,500
http://jalopnik.com/ford-will-make-2...1689236425/all


A bit optimistic if you ask me. I mean the GT will be good no doubting but the point of it being a Ford is that it should be priced like a....Ford.
Is Ford trying to be a Lexus with the LF-A?
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It would want over 700hp to be priced near an Aventador. Most would expect it to be closer in spec to the Huracan though and other entry level supercars like the Ferrari 488 and McLaren 650/675/whatever it's called next month.
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