Malaysian Airways Flight 370

[cheap]

Explains everything including the mobile phones ringing

[nstg8a]

Now they're denying there's info saying the engines ran for another four hours lol.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

When the possible destinations, based on fuel load, were first bandied about there was reference to reaching the Korean Peninsula.
If you take a look at the region on Google Earth, it would appear that a plane capable of doing KL to north Korea could reach the Iranian border.
They are now saying it flew long enough to have reached Pakistan, what neighbours Pakistan....Where did the stolen passport travellers come from...

With 8 hours worth of fuel it could go as far west as Somalia. I could think of some undesirables in that part of the world who would want a big plane with hostages they could crash into something significant.

But, its all crap, it most likely suffered the fuselage failure as forewarned by the FAA in November which would have crapped out its satcoms, caused cabin decompression and they all would have passed out from hypoxia. It just carried on using autopilot until it ran out of juice.

[Road_Warrior]

[XBROO]

On channel 7 last night there was an Aussie bloke saying it flew over him at low altitude. Do any of you reckon there's any truth in these people coming forward or a they just after money for their stories.

[cheap]

The missing plane B77-200ER carrying a full fuel load has a huge range, up to 14,305 Km's !

Here is a radius of only 9,000km's from KL, assume the plane wasn't fully fueled and if the plane did continue to fly, then it could potentially be anywhere within the green area.


9000K Radius KL.jpg

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Now 'Malaysian Authorities' are dissing the WSJ report that the plane ran for 4 hours after contact loss; that the Chinese satellite images were "wrong" and showed no wreckage; and that Malaysian Police have not searched the pilot's house.

Hrrm.

Which still leads me to believe Malaysia knows what happened and where the plane is, they are covering it up to save themselves.

I read this morning they said the plane just vanished.

Planes don't just vanish, you cannot just lose something of that size. Especially if Rolls Royce and Boeing are still gathering data from all their planes and engines.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

Which still leads me to believe Malaysia knows what happened and where the plane is, they are covering it up to save themselves.

I read this morning they said the plane just vanished.

Planes don't just vanish, you cannot just lose something of that size. Especially if Rolls Royce and Boeing are still gathering data from all their planes and engines.

Now these schmucks are saying the airplane "could have" continued to fly but not "for 4 hours"

WTF, someone needs to take search command and control off these guys and give it to someone with half a clue, they couldn't organise a bunfight in a bakery

[Rangas GTP]

I can find my phone with an app and they can't find a plane? Maybe they should make an app!

[mcnews]

The media will just try and make stuff up for clickbait and traffic generating, I wouldn't believe anything I read on the internet about this crash, or anything that said the Malaysians said this etc. etc. Half of them will just be making stuff up

[TheSneakiness]

I think there should be sanctions placed on Malaysia Airlines to minimise what flights they can operate in the interim until they cough up correct info.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Guys, I think you are being a little harsh on the Malaysians. Don't forget that as the aircraft involved in this incident was manufactured by an American based company, the NTSB are also (and I suspect relatively heavily) involved in the process of identifying what happened to flight MH370. And the NTSB are probably the best at this type of activity.

Don't forget that it took the authorities around the 5 day mark to find debris from the Air France flight 447 accident. And I'm sure they didn't have some nearby countries offering to use (dubious?) satellites to 'assist' them in finding wreckage.

I do agree, however, that on the surface (ie what you and I are privy to) it doesn't look like it is being managed well, but then that area of Asia doesn't quite have the same level of technology that western countries have at their disposal to help find this aircraft.

Unfortunately, I think the longer this goes on, the more likely there are going to be red herrings, and the media can be mostly held to blame for those.

Craig H

[jimt3te50]

Originally Posted by psychobimbo

I do agree, however, that on the surface (ie what you and I are privy to) it doesn't look like it is being managed well, but then that area of Asia doesn't quite have the same level of technology that western countries have at their disposal to help find this aircraft.

I don't think any of these eastern countries want to expose what level of technology and resources they do have. Actually, that goes for any country. It would be easier for us to accept incompetence than exposure to technology that undermines our perception of freedom and way of life.

It will be found in time, but not because some country or organisation has shown their hand. Someone knows what's happened. Just keep dropping theories that get investigated to the point where it turns something up.

This is an intriguing event, but I feel so deeply for those affected by the disappearance and waiting on the news of loved ones and friends.

[Road_Warrior]

Well, it looks like the US has had enough and they are starting their own search in the Indian ocean.

[CJR09]

i read a post 2-3 days ago saying one of the last pings had come 5-600 nm west/swest of penang - heading out towards Indian ocean - would not be surprised to hear wreckage is found out there - hijacking then ditching/out of fuel

[Falcman0o7]

70% of me believes it is in the sea sitting on the bottom in one peice.( hudson river a jet stayed in one peice )
The other 30% of me believes it has been stolen and parked some where to be packed with a nuke ( or just by itself ) and flown into a city somewhere using the Passengers as a guarantee to stay in the air and accomplish there sick mission.
The engines transmit data for hours after contact is lost? Were the tracking devices deactivated to prevent location?
Maybe the passengers are safe and well while the sick buggers prepare for their plans.

[FPVS3]

Originally Posted by cheap

The missing plane B77-200ER carrying a full fuel load has a huge range, up to 14,305 Km's !

Here is a radius of only 9,000km's from KL, assume the plane wasn't fully fueled and if the plane did continue to fly, then it could potentially be anywhere within the green area.


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It wouldn't have a full fuel load though just popping up to PEK.

[FPVS3]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

With 8 hours worth of fuel it could go as far west as Somalia. I could think of some undesirables in that part of the world who would want a big plane with hostages they could crash into something significant.

But, its all crap, it most likely suffered the fuselage failure as forewarned by the FAA in November which would have crapped out its satcoms, caused cabin decompression and they all would have passed out from hypoxia. It just carried on using autopilot until it ran out of juice.

Apparently the AD (Airworthiness Directive) was aimed at aircraft with a certain antenna fitted that could lead to a localised fuselage skin failure. This aircraft didn't have that antenna fitted.

[FPVS3]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Its amazing what information you can dig up purely from an internet search.

Apparently Malaysia Airlines got defensive and ****** when they were accused of under-fueling MH370 causing it to crash - they've responded and said the aircraft had enough fuel on board to support 8 hours of flight.

If both engines quit due to fuel starvation the Ram Air Turbine would deploy and provide hydraulic power for flight controls and basic electrical power. The pilots if they weren't being interfered with could get out Mayday calls. They'd be gliding for 15 mins or so.

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by FPVS3

Apparently the AD (Airworthiness Directive) was aimed at aircraft with a certain antenna fitted that could lead to a localised fuselage skin failure. This aircraft didn't have that antenna fitted.

Yep, found that out just now.

The plot thickens. If it is true that the aircraft ended up in the Indian ocean, then the decompression-autopilot-hypoxia-crash theory becomes null and void.

Notice also how Malaysian and Chinese spokespersons and authorities have now gone rather silent since the US announced it was re-tasking a warship and patrol plane to the area.

[sixman]

Originally Posted by cheap

The missing plane B77-200ER carrying a full fuel load has a huge range, up to 14,305 Km's !

Here is a radius of only 9,000km's from KL, assume the plane wasn't fully fueled and if the plane did continue to fly, then it could potentially be anywhere within the green area.


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Yeah, but if it only flew for another 4 hours that area becomes much smaller

[FPVS3]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Yep, found that out just now.

The plot thickens. If it is true that the aircraft ended up in the Indian ocean, then the decompression-autopilot-hypoxia-crash theory becomes null and void.

Notice also how Malaysian and Chinese spokespersons and authorities have now gone rather silent since the US announced it was re-tasking a warship and patrol plane to the area.

Yup, hope they find it and get those recorders.

[GASWAGON]

Strange.....And if a terrorist attack WHY would it be a Malaysian plane???

I thought the stuff going on in Ukraine/Russia was leading the headlines???

[CoupeKing]

Originally Posted by EF_6

Strange.....And if a terrorist attack WHY would it be a Malaysian plane???

I thought the stuff going on in Ukraine/Russia was leading the headlines???

Easy target. Malaysia are a very peaceful nation. As for the situation in Ukraine... Wonder why the Yanks only Deployed one Destroyer?

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by EF_6

Strange.....And if a terrorist attack WHY would it be a Malaysian plane???

I thought the stuff going on in Ukraine/Russia was leading the headlines???

Maybe Malaysian airlines is a softer target than other western ones.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Rapid_Axe

I think there should be sanctions placed on Malaysia Airlines to minimise what flights they can operate in the interim until they cough up correct info.

In one of the many sites I have read about this there was a reference that MA will be restricted in their operations starting with Europe.

Don't blame em. This has become an absolute embarrassing joke.

[Romulus]

ltd, what's your take on this as of today?

One thing I'm sure of, I won't fly MAS after this incident. The Malaysian government's attempt to save face and it's hierarchy/chain of command has made them look like complete fools.

I guess my favourite saying "If it ain't a Boeing I ain't going" will need to be tested to determine whether it was aircraft failure or pilot error.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

In one of the many sites I have read about this there was a reference that MA will be restricted in their operations starting with Europe.

Don't blame em. This has become an absolute embarrassing joke.

Yeah but does the problem lie with MH, or is it the Malaysian Government and military?

Because in my eyes MH is a very respectable carrier, one with whom I have flown, and one with which I would have no problem in flying again despite what has happened to 370.

I mean we are not talking about an Indonesian budget carrier and a missing 737-200.. Something unfortunate has happened, and I'm not entirely sure that when we find out what happened that the blame will lie with MH...

[Road_Warrior]

This is what they reckon the aircraft has done

[bungarra]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

This is what they reckon the aircraft has done

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Intersting how the first of the unusual tracks heads straight for Aceh in Indonesia. Very devout Islamic area and was once fighting a seperatist battle against Indonesian control. It also has a number of Indonesian air bases.