New Ranger teaser vidz - Page 7

Vesper Martini · 25-11-2021, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PepeLePew

Why do i get the feeling the V6 won't be offered in manual form :( Ok ok i know it's not the bread and butter these days, but it's nice to have choice. Not sure offered in the F150 with MT so probably that horse had already bolted. 600 speculative Nm with a manual trans sheesh!!!! But if they've got the 10 speed right not a showstopper I guess. I'm just a hanger on'er for a clutch.

Think i need a Sport V6. Be interested to check out the option wheels before thinking aftermarket. One helluva good looking ute.

I see the want for a manual in a sportscar, but not for these, and Autos all lock gears now

besides as you say 600NM would require a pretty heavy clutch

Bossxr8 · 25-11-2021, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DoreSlamR

Bit disappointed that there’s no mention of the Raptor.

It’s the marquee vehicle of the lineup and not even a glimpse of it.

Patience I suppose

Raptor is a separate release. February 2022.

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Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

Looks like it uses a wheel for the infotainment, if its anything like the BMWs you will forget the need for a touchscreen

No that's the drive mode select dial. It's a touchscreen. The start up graphics on both the dash and screen are cool.

25-11-2021, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben73

Looks good but doesn’t look as tough as I thought it would.

You don't think so? I think it looks a lot 'tougher' than the previous models, it's boxier, the front styling looks more aggressive and the car overall has some real mecha vibes. I wouldn't be surprised if the designers were manga or anime fans

**Fordman1** · 25-11-2021, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Raptor is a separate release. February 2022.

No that's the drive mode select dial. It's a touchscreen. The start up graphics on both the dash and screen are cool.

You should probably be VERY careful

**Giant Cranium** · 25-11-2021, 01:48 PM

looking at the interior shots and it looks to have cup holders that pop out of the dash like the hilux and dmax. its the little things that add up.

John 13 · 25-11-2021, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SSVPom

Carsales have all of the images up now, but nothing concrete around engine specs. Anyway, looks great so far.

Is this the ute that is the result of an alliance between Ford and VW ?

25-11-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

looking at the interior shots and it looks to have cup holders that pop out of the dash like the hilux and dmax. its the little things that add up.

How long until they break and need replacing though?
Maybe I'm just an old fuddy duddy but what's wrong with two cup holes infront of the centre console? No moving parts, no wearing out, no fancy pantsy retractable plastic.

**PepeLePew** · 25-11-2021, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

I see the want for a manual in a sportscar, but not for these, and Autos all lock gears now

besides as you say 600NM would require a pretty heavy clutch

It's all personal preference, my LSA Maloo's clutch I had prior to the Fiesta was livable and not 'that' heavy

For me it's engagement with the car, no matter the vehicle, every little thing more the car does for itself lessens that connection while i understand modern auto's are brilliant and have driven a ton of them. But have to accept that they're a near dead breed. Least the manuals are still available in the bi-turbo option. And there is some indication they've finessed the 10 speed auto in the new range, hopefully they've got that smack on now. Won't stop me ordering the V6. Priorities!!!!

simon varley · 25-11-2021, 03:58 PM

I just want to put it out there, that what you've just seen, and what will be revealed over the next few months, is the result of the biggest program that Ford Australia has ever run! In fact, globally for Ford Motor Company this is most likely the biggest most complex program ever. Only transit comes close to the market coverage and body style options of the T6 platform and they don't have anywhere near our powertrain complexity

Just to put it into perspective, this program is the same size as PX1, PX2, PX3 and Everest combined

big up to the Ford Australia team and our global partners who made this happen.

Gumboot · 25-11-2021, 04:04 PM

I am just imagining the discussions in the Toyota exuctives we’re having this morning.
What a V6 you say, full time 4WD you say, rear discs you say , a 12 incher display…

Vesper Martini · 25-11-2021, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by simon varley

I just want to put it out there, that what you've just seen, and what will be revealed over the next few months, is the result of the biggest program that Ford Australia has ever run! In fact, globally for Ford Motor Company this is most likely the biggest most complex program ever. Only transit comes close to the market coverage and body style options of the T6 platform and they don't have anywhere near our powertrain complexity

Just to put it into perspective, this program is the same size as PX1, PX2, PX3 and Everest combined

big up to the Ford Australia team and our global partners who made this happen.

Despite that, you will get people fitting aftermarket trans coolers..

Bossxr8 · 25-11-2021, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fordman1

You should probably be VERY careful

It’s visible in the release video.

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Originally Posted by John 13

Is this the ute that is the result of an alliance between Ford and VW ?

Amorak is pretty much all Fords work. VW sent some designers to work with the Ford guys at broadmeadows, but all development work on it is by Ford. It will even be built in a Ford factory.

b0son · 25-11-2021, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by simon varley

Just to put it into perspective, this program is the same size as PX1, PX2, PX3 and Everest combined

Well, when you only plan to sell one model, you can spend a lot more on it....

XR Martin · 25-11-2021, 05:05 PM

Manual diesels are awful, doesn't matter how much power and torque they have.

**Giant Cranium** · 25-11-2021, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by leesa

How long until they break and need replacing though?
Maybe I'm just an old fuddy duddy but what's wrong with two cup holes infront of the centre console? No moving parts, no wearing out, no fancy pantsy retractable plastic.

Yeh they don’t. I’m yet to see one broken in the 16 years the hilux has had them. It’s not a spring loaded part. Pull out and it’s there

Having them there on the dash is way better ergonomics also.

The new bt50 and dmax are nearly identical besides the Mazda not having those cup holders. That would sway my decision

Annnnd. Most tradies use the centre console cup holders as more storage

Falcon SXR8 · 25-11-2021, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Vesper Martini

Despite that, you will get people fitting aftermarket trans coolers..

Nothing wrong with a good trans cooler if your working them hard on the limit frequently. Or you have been shafted by a good old trans milkshake in the past.

XR Martin · 25-11-2021, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

Yeh they don’t. I’m yet to see one broken in the 16 years the hilux has had them. It’s not a spring loaded part. Pull out and it’s there

Having them there on the dash is way better ergonomics also.

The new bt50 and dmax are nearly identical besides the Mazda not having those cup holders. That would sway my decision

Annnnd. Most tradies use the centre console cup holders as more storage

I've seen plenty of busted cup holders in Hiluxs.

Here

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/boda...has/1285433750

And here

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bowr...4x4/1285460470

**Giant Cranium** · 25-11-2021, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

I've seen plenty of busted cup holders in Hiluxs.

Here

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/boda...has/1285433750

And here

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bowr...4x4/1285460470

Lucky you. Point still stands. Cup holders there are premium cup holders.

One of them has 300000km. At that point a cup holder would be the least broken thing

25-11-2021, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by XR Martin

I've seen plenty of busted cup holders in Hiluxs.

Here

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/boda...has/1285433750

That poor ute has had a hard life. How do you even get bowed side steps?!

BENT_8 · 25-11-2021, 06:00 PM

Love the trim, shifter, instrument screen, not a fan of the vertical screen.
Love the V6 option and step on the rear quarters, still cant take to the F series look though.
Will sell in big numbers no doubt.

**DFB FGXR6** · 25-11-2021, 06:42 PM

Overall, I think they have done a great job with the new Ranger. And they listened, everyone wanted a V6 and they delivered. I also love the thought that has gone into the tailgate and rear "box-step".

I think the new design works best on the Sport and Wildtrack.

As mentioned, the dial on the center console is the drive mode selector -

One thing I'm not liking is the move to a digitized gear selector -

These things can be confusing. I don't see the point of re-designing a ergonomic and universally recognized design for something like this.

My biggest question though is, what does Toyota do from here? Do they offer the Landcruiser's engine in the Hilux to compete? Hilux and Landcruiser have never shared an engine before, so I'm interested in seeing what they do.

Although, it seems Prado is looking like getting a V6 again -
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...esel-v6-report

rare ss · 25-11-2021, 07:06 PM

hmm V6 TD Prado would be great, the 2.8 is a little underpowered.. one would guess the Hilux would be in line for it also

**GasoLane** · 25-11-2021, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

One thing I'm not liking is the move to a digitized gear selector

Well a lot of people like to call them Trucks, now they can pretend they have a RoadRanger gearbox

prydey · 25-11-2021, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GasoLane

Well a lot of people like to call them Trucks, now they ~~can~~ will pretend they have a RoadRanger gearbox

Fixed

XR Martin · 25-11-2021, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Overall, I think they have done a great job with the new Ranger. And they listened, everyone wanted a V6 and they delivered. I also love the thought that has gone into the tailgate and rear "box-step".

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I think the new design works best on the Sport and Wildtrack.

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As mentioned, the dial on the center console is the drive mode selector -

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One thing I'm not liking is the move to a digitized gear selector -

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These things can be confusing. I don't see the point of re-designing a ergonomic and universally recognized design for something like this.

Kinda agree, if going full digital may as well have put buttons on the dash like the various Lincolns.
Save heaps of space on the console.

prydey · 25-11-2021, 09:15 PM

It's odd they haven't gone for the same style of electronic shifter as focus/escape. Why pretend like it still needs an actual shifter??

FPV8U · 25-11-2021, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

It's odd they haven't gone for the same style of electronic shifter as focus/escape. Why pretend like it still needs an actual shifter??

I’ve not driven a focus or escape, in the case of the ranger and your towing a heavy van or boat, if you want to lock out gears 7-10, it’s quite easy (well using the same buttons on the current Bi-Turbo is) without said shifter I assume you’d be 100% relying on the drive mode to default not to go into ratios you want to stay away from?

simon varley · 25-11-2021, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

It's odd they haven't gone for the same style of electronic shifter as focus/escape. Why pretend like it still needs an actual shifter??

because those rotary shifters are f'kn horrible. The Ranger design actually started off that way, but soon changed

25-11-2021, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

It's odd they haven't gone for the same style of electronic shifter as focus/escape. Why pretend like it still needs an actual shifter??

$20 says it has something to do with men not being able to let go of a physical gearstick that they can beat up so as to feel like they're driving a real man's car.

steady on... don't set me on fire...

BENT_8 · 25-11-2021, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by leesa

$20 says it has something to do with men not being able to let go of a physical gearstick that they can beat up so as to feel like they're driving a real man's car.

steady on... don't set me on fire...

I was going to say it retains a sense of control but i think you're probably on the money..lol

I think it looks great and correct me if im wrong but it still actually moves fore and aft.