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Old 18-06-2016, 04:58 PM   #241
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Old 21-06-2016, 07:01 PM   #242
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Is there hope of one person getting a caravan on welfare payments just wondered
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Old 21-06-2016, 07:12 PM   #243
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Short answer is no fixed address = no welfare.
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Old 21-06-2016, 08:11 PM   #244
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Short answer is no fixed address = no welfare.
I'm afraid you are wrong with that answer, many homeless people on welfare.
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Old 21-06-2016, 08:16 PM   #245
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I'm afraid you are wrong with that answer, many homeless people on welfare.
Yeah no. I used to work for Centrelink and when a homeless person presented to claim benefits, we told them to use a hostel or a shelter as their place of "residence" for application purposes.
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Old 21-06-2016, 08:23 PM   #246
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Meant is it possible for people to buy caravans on welfare payments
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Old 21-06-2016, 08:23 PM   #247
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Meant is it possible for people to buy caravans on welfare payments
If they save the money, why not?
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Old 22-06-2016, 11:54 AM   #248
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Meant is it possible for people to buy caravans on welfare payments
Yeah I guess they could save $2 a fortnight. Be a while before they get a deposit for a van though....
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Old 22-06-2016, 11:58 AM   #249
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Well I know pensioner couples who own their own homes and live reasonably without being extravagant and the have bought caravans out of their savings.You don't have to spend every dollar as soon as you get it!!
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Old 22-06-2016, 12:14 PM   #250
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Well I know pensioner couples who own their own homes and live reasonably
Same, my in-laws are constantly holidaying someplace or another, with all the age concessions they are eligible for, life is cheap.
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Old 22-06-2016, 02:46 PM   #251
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My dad, an 83 year old highly avtive pensioner would be living in poverty
were it not for being able to live with me rent free.

Living on the age pension and renting from the negatively geared market
would leave him about $120 a week to run a car, pay utilities and eat.

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Old 27-06-2016, 12:54 PM   #252
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how come its harder for welfare people to buy houses and live comfortably.

disabled and oldies and genuine needy its not their fault they cant work and some would probably like to buy and not rent and people should be able to live and not worry about money those people should get enough to live the same as workers, just not bludgers and cheats


alot dont want to rent and would rather buy and alot of times it makes sense to buy because paying rates and loan would be similar to paying rent and costs of moving when owners want to sell and you have to move, then the house is yours and you can do what you like,

privite rent needs to be subsidised like public so theres more cheap homes for people to use
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Old 27-06-2016, 03:38 PM   #253
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Its harder becasue you get stuff all on welfare, working is the best way to survive, i get that no everyone is in the position to work tho
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Old 27-06-2016, 04:57 PM   #254
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Why don't you get a lot on welfare can't people that can't work get the same wage as a worker and concession

How does welfare people get same as workers or enough to pay bills and be able to go out too

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Old 27-06-2016, 05:11 PM   #255
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Welfare is designed to help those who cant help themselves really, if you could have a nice easy life on welfare no one would bother working
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Old 27-06-2016, 05:30 PM   #256
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What about people that are too old to work or aren't capable or have worked a lot of years and now are no longer able to can't they have it easier
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Old 27-06-2016, 05:31 PM   #257
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And then you get people going to pokies or whatever on pension day before bills then they go to salvos for food vouchers or whatever and say poor
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Sadly there are people who rely on it, which they must due to lack of retirement funds or whatever, but its up to them how they spend it really
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Mate you ask a whole lot of questions!!
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Mate you ask a whole lot of questions!!
He's throwing out the line, but no-one is taking the bait.
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Old 28-06-2016, 06:17 PM   #261
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He's throwing out the line, but no-one is taking the bait.
He's berley had a nibble
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He's berley had a nibble
He must take fishing advice from me.
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Old 29-06-2016, 10:10 AM   #263
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Is there hope of one person getting a caravan on welfare payments just wondered
In my travels I see people living in caravans about the place in dumps, not on holidays and old caravans.

One could by an old van cheap or even pay it off.
I know people on the rockenroll who do better than some who work.
I know people who just don't like to work and are on the rockenroll they get by not so badly from what I see.
I know some who's whole culture revolves around the rockenroll looks good to me, only they have no idea about money, but if they did they would be much better off, but the government has created the position they find themselves in.
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With welfare when everyone adds their expenses on payday to allow the money for them how come if something pops up a lot have to wait till pay day is money for those people not there

Ones who haven't worked a day should only get enough to live aged disabled and ones that lost job should get a little more to allow a unexpected cost during week

On current affair other day there was a story about a single mother of 7 burning 3 trust homes down on purpose, why do you's think she did it and why do you's think she had 60 grand in furniture or got it off insurance

Why you's recon she had 7 kids is it so she didn't have to work and would she have kept having another kid when last one turned 6 or 7 so she could stay on parent payment longer and didn't have to work
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Old 16-09-2016, 06:13 PM   #265
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Old 16-09-2016, 06:32 PM   #266
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Maybe someone can answer as I'm at a loss

I'm single, I work and pay rent and live off my wages etc and nothing from government

Was redundant from prior job and had to use up my savings and allowed to apply for benefits only after a 26 weeks so o was told but found employment anyway

Now, friend has 2 kids ages 4 and 2 and doesn't work and hubby is a chef with a 80k job, has a mortgage and are literally dodging the money the government throws at them

Payout after payout after payment

Nothing illegal

Doesn't seem fair either that if I lose my job, benefits and rent assistance won't pay my weekly expenses yet throws money at like above friends family when he lost his job

So because I have no kids or wife, if I lose my job government won't assist me and be basically on the streets once savings run out

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Old 16-09-2016, 08:18 PM   #267
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have some kids and a wife then problem solved
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Big and green questions getting chucked around.
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Old 16-09-2016, 09:55 PM   #269
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why yous think the mother had 7 kids for yous think she was on parent payment and when youngest turns 8 theyre off so they have another kid when last one turns 6 or 7 so they can stau on it longer
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why yous think the mother had 7 kids for yous think she was on parent payment and when youngest turns 8 theyre off so they have another kid when last one turns 6 or 7 so they can stau on it longer
The mother will be paid for the kids until they are 16.

Once a child turns 6 and there is no children under 6 she will
need to look for work, but it's not hard to stay on Centrelink even if they want you to look for work.

Anyway, your asking questions about somone behaviour which only that person can explain.

You need to understand that Centrelink is not black and white, there is multiple shades of grey areas.

One person circumstances may be exactly the same as the next person, but they both will be on completely different welfare payment schemes.
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